(01-08-2014 01:05 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  I thought I'd asked this question in this thread but can't find it.

Do WKU fans think Petrino is the rain maker everyone seems to make him out to be?

Looks to me like he put some decent teams on the field but I'd not call them dominant in any fashion.

I don't think Western had the skill players to get the max out of BP's system. It also probably took longer for coach and players to "get" each other and play to the strengths instead of forcing pass plays that wasn't in our players skill sets.

I personally think Western wins 10 games this year with Willie as coach...

USA and Troy because Willie would have pounded the ball and used AA to control the game. I also think we -probably take the ULL game. I think We lose the Navy game with Willie.

Other than a faster pace and a few different pass plays with the WRs more involved than the TE's I don't think our offense was much different...at least not as much as I though going into the season.

(01-08-2014 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:05 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  I thought I'd asked this question in this thread but can't find it.

Do WKU fans think Petrino is the rain maker everyone seems to make him out to be?

Looks to me like he put some decent teams on the field but I'd not call them dominant in any fashion.

I don't think Western had the skill players to get the max out of BP's system. It also probably took longer for coach and players to "get" each other and play to the strengths instead of forcing pass plays that wasn't in our players skill sets.

I personally think Western wins 10 games this year with Willie as coach...

USA and Troy because Willie would have pounded the ball and used AA to control the game. I also think we -probably take the ULL game. I think We lose the Navy game with Willie.

Other than a faster pace and a few different pass plays with the WRs more involved than the TE's I don't think our offense was much different...at least not as much as I though going into the season.

Ah okay. So you guys actually went 10-2. The Cajuns actually finished 6-7 which makes our bowl invite all the more impressive.

(01-08-2014 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I don't think Western had the skill players to get the max out of BP's system. It also probably took longer for coach and players to "get" each other and play to the strengths instead of forcing pass plays that wasn't in our players skill sets.

I personally think Western wins 10 games this year with Willie as coach...

USA and Troy because Willie would have pounded the ball and used AA to control the game. I also think we -probably take the ULL game. I think We lose the Navy game with Willie.

Other than a faster pace and a few different pass plays with the WRs more involved than the TE's I don't think our offense was much different...at least not as much as I though going into the season.

I think you were putting a bit too much stock in Willie's legacy. I would have loved to see him stay with us for a bit longer however.

(01-08-2014 02:20 PM)WKULooseCannon90 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I don't think Western had the skill players to get the max out of BP's system. It also probably took longer for coach and players to "get" each other and play to the strengths instead of forcing pass plays that wasn't in our players skill sets.

I personally think Western wins 10 games this year with Willie as coach...

USA and Troy because Willie would have pounded the ball and used AA to control the game. I also think we -probably take the ULL game. I think We lose the Navy game with Willie.

Other than a faster pace and a few different pass plays with the WRs more involved than the TE's I don't think our offense was much different...at least not as much as I though going into the season.

I think you were putting a bit too much stock in Willie's legacy. I would have loved to see him stay with us for a bit longer however.

I think we still lose to UL, lose to Navy and Army. Possibly lose to UK. I don't think Willie would have done any better really. Unless he went with Mauro. But if Petrino cut Mauro loose, then you have to figure he wasn't all that he was cracked up to be. Doughty still wouldn't have run with the ball, which was what Jakes did when plays went south.

I think at the end of the season we saw our QB play improved, but I am sure Petrino did not run half of the offense he wanted too with mostly players designed for a completely differnent system...First few games Petrino was trying to force a square peg in a round circle and it did not work....So he backed off and we improved down the stretch..I am a little disappointment only in that I think Year 2 under BP, offense would have been a lot better...

(01-08-2014 02:20 PM)WKULooseCannon90 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I don't think Western had the skill players to get the max out of BP's system. It also probably took longer for coach and players to "get" each other and play to the strengths instead of forcing pass plays that wasn't in our players skill sets.

I personally think Western wins 10 games this year with Willie as coach...

USA and Troy because Willie would have pounded the ball and used AA to control the game. I also think we -probably take the ULL game. I think We lose the Navy game with Willie.

Other than a faster pace and a few different pass plays with the WRs more involved than the TE's I don't think our offense was much different...at least not as much as I though going into the season.

I think you were putting a bit too much stock in Willie's legacy. I would have loved to see him stay with us for a bit longer however.

Nope I think Willie is still a couple years away from being a very good football coach. With that BP made just as many bad calls as a young WT did. Lets put it this way no way we pass on 1/2 yard line like at Tenn and vs ULL.

Also I think the talent was suited more for ground and pound ball control West Coast offense.

I don't think we win but 1 out of the 3 games vs ULL, Navy and Tenn but we for sure win the Troy and USA games

What about Brohm? Does he stay to lead us to CUSA or does he go with BP?

If Western offers and I think most WKU fans think we will...he takes the WKU job. I've seen a few people say, well, Brohm could get to the big boys faster by being OC at UofL . I say that's nonsense because BP will get most of the credit with any offense. Not only that but not many OC's will turn down a chance to be head coach at just about any FBS school that's shown it can compete. On the field and in pay

I didn't think Taggart's recruits were likely to be a good fit, but hell who cares? WKU made it two in a row over their in-state SEC member and WKU gets a fat check for the trouble. All around success.

(01-08-2014 03:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I didn't think Taggart's recruits were likely to be a good fit, but hell who cares? WKU made it two in a row over their in-state SEC member and WKU gets a fat check for the trouble. All around success.

Yep, no complaints from me. I would have like to fair better in some games, but when your QB throws it to the wrong team, that doesn't work out.

(01-08-2014 03:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I didn't think Taggart's recruits were likely to be a good fit, but hell who cares? WKU made it two in a row over their in-state SEC member and WKU gets a fat check for the trouble. All around success.

Yep, no complaints from me. I would have like to fair better in some games, but when your QB throws it to the wrong team, that doesn't work out.

And that's what happens when you gotta guy who wasn't recruited to make those reads and throws. Arkansas was terrible his first year.

(01-08-2014 03:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I didn't think Taggart's recruits were likely to be a good fit, but hell who cares? WKU made it two in a row over their in-state SEC member and WKU gets a fat check for the trouble. All around success.

Yep, no complaints from me. I would have like to fair better in some games, but when your QB throws it to the wrong team, that doesn't work out.

But if you put a fullback that is willing to break through a brick wall to open up a hole for AA in the backfield instead of another receiver out wide or the fullback coming out of the backfield on a route ....

you don't need to pass the ball from the 1 yardline or on 3rd or 4th and 1/2 a yard. I clearly put the loss to USA and Troy on coaching mistakes. You can also add in the ULL game...pound it into the endzone we go up 17-0 and take the life out of the Cajuns

But we didn't do that we put the fullback in motion for a maybe pass.. he misses his block on the ULL LBer that comes in untouched forcing a bad throw on 4th down. I would bet the house that during the timeout before that play our coaches said....

don't get sacked at least put the ball in the air, it's 4th down

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(01-08-2014 04:01 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I didn't think Taggart's recruits were likely to be a good fit, but hell who cares? WKU made it two in a row over their in-state SEC member and WKU gets a fat check for the trouble. All around success.

Yep, no complaints from me. I would have like to fair better in some games, but when your QB throws it to the wrong team, that doesn't work out.

But if you put a fullback that is willing to break through a brick wall to open up a hole for AA in the backfield instead of another receiver out wide or the fullback coming out of the backfield on a route ....

you don't need to pass the ball from the 1 yardline or on 3rd or 4th and 1/2 a yard. I clearly put the loss to USA and Troy on coaching mistakes. You can also add in the ULL game...pound it into the endzone we go up 17-0 and take the life out of the Cajuns

But we didn't do that we put the fullback in motion for a maybe pass.. he misses his block on the ULL LBer that comes in untouched forcing a bad throw on 4th down. I would bet the house that during the timeout before that play our coaches said....

don't get sacked at least put the ball in the air, it's 4th down

Recently read an article talking about 2 point conversions, the overall success rate is sub 50% but running the ball it is better than 50% so passing that close to the goal line is apparently not a great strategy.