(01-09-2014 09:14 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Tulane plays in the dome not us.

Everyone most likely understands what I said. So I'm not going to do 25 pages debating what constitutes a "home base".

(01-09-2014 08:37 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 08:34 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  READ MY LIPS. I agree that you would. However, both your and my concurring opinion is not a fact. Period.

This is a argument no one will win since only one Bowl INVITED us 3 times. We never had a chance to chose between bowls. In 2011 after not being in a Bowl for 41 yrs. it was special playing a team we never played, San Diego St.

Even 2012 was nice, beating East Carolina.

I promise you the NOB wasn't our first choice this year. Things just didn't fall in our favor towards the end of the Season.

It really sucked having to play Tulane which felt like just a regular season game. It feels like we didn't even goto a Bowl game this year. i'm sure Tulane feels the same way.

Next year, i promise you we won't be going to the NOB if we have an awesome Season with all the players that are returning.

I hope you are at the first place Red Wolves (2-0) basketball game. They are losing to 0-2 Troy 54-44 at the Half. Well, it's now 64-46.

(01-09-2014 08:26 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 08:01 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 07:50 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 07:43 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  I would say you have a strange obsession with trying to debate me over the dumbest of things, like whether it is fact or not that ULL travels well outside of NO.

The original point is long gone. I'm just in it because I'm curious if any Cajun will ever admit that the words opinion and proof are not synonyms.

You don't have proof we cant, we don't have proof we can. We just have differing opinions. However, you seem to think your lack of proof and opinion is some how more credible.

If I were asserting that you wouldn't travel well then that might be the case. But I'm not asserting that.

You ARE asserting the opposite.

I am making no claim other than that you have no bowl travel data points that a bowl committee can look at outside of your own home base. And that is a fact.

I realize that there are a lot of ingredients that go into a selection committee's final decision, but if one were looking at the Cajun's as an option for their bowl game, can you name another G-5 university with a comparable bowl record attendance-wise? Ignore distance of school from said bowl.

(01-09-2014 09:40 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 08:26 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 08:01 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 07:50 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 07:43 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  I would say you have a strange obsession with trying to debate me over the dumbest of things, like whether it is fact or not that ULL travels well outside of NO.

The original point is long gone. I'm just in it because I'm curious if any Cajun will ever admit that the words opinion and proof are not synonyms.

You don't have proof we cant, we don't have proof we can. We just have differing opinions. However, you seem to think your lack of proof and opinion is some how more credible.

If I were asserting that you wouldn't travel well then that might be the case. But I'm not asserting that.

You ARE asserting the opposite.

I am making no claim other than that you have no bowl travel data points that a bowl committee can look at outside of your own home base. And that is a fact.

I realize that there are a lot of ingredients that go into a selection committee's final decision, but if one were looking at the Cajun's as an option for their bowl game, can you name another G-5 university with a comparable bowl record attendance-wise? Ignore distance of school from said bowl.

No don't ignore the distance. Name the other schools in P5 or G5 who brought what we did close or far. I promise you, you won't mind being in that company.

(01-09-2014 09:24 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  This is a argument no one will win since only one Bowl INVITED us 3 times. We never had a chance to chose between bowls. In 2011 after not being in a Bowl for 41 yrs. it was special playing a team we never played, San Diego St.

Even 2012 was nice, beating East Carolina.

I promise you the NOB wasn't our first choice this year. Things just didn't fall in our favor towards the end of the Season.

It really sucked having to play Tulane which felt like just a regular season game. It feels like we didn't even goto a Bowl game this year. i'm sure Tulane feels the same way.

Next year, i promise you we won't be going to the NOB if we have an awesome Season with all the players that are returning.

I hope you are at the first place Red Wolves (2-0) basketball game. They are losing to 0-2 Troy 54-44 at the Half. Well, it's now 64-46.

1) No, its an argument I will win. I said you had no proof how your fan base would travel outside of New Orleans. You don't. I win.

2) I've heard lots of promises about next year from a lot of different fans of many schools. They all have equal value.

3) WTH does the ASU basketball game against Troy have to do with anything in this thread?

(01-09-2014 09:45 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:40 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 08:26 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 08:01 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 07:50 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  The original point is long gone. I'm just in it because I'm curious if any Cajun will ever admit that the words opinion and proof are not synonyms.

You don't have proof we cant, we don't have proof we can. We just have differing opinions. However, you seem to think your lack of proof and opinion is some how more credible.

If I were asserting that you wouldn't travel well then that might be the case. But I'm not asserting that.

You ARE asserting the opposite.

I am making no claim other than that you have no bowl travel data points that a bowl committee can look at outside of your own home base. And that is a fact.

I realize that there are a lot of ingredients that go into a selection committee's final decision, but if one were looking at the Cajun's as an option for their bowl game, can you name another G-5 university with a comparable bowl record attendance-wise? Ignore distance of school from said bowl.

No don't ignore the distance. Name the other schools in P5 or G5 who brought what we did close or far. I promise you, you won't mind being in that company.

Indeed. I was referring to his comment of no bowl travel data points that a bowl committee can look at outside of your own home base.

Close or far, it doesn't matter. Who travels equally as well within the same distance or even less?

(01-09-2014 09:46 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:24 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  This is a argument no one will win since only one Bowl INVITED us 3 times. We never had a chance to chose between bowls. In 2011 after not being in a Bowl for 41 yrs. it was special playing a team we never played, San Diego St.

Even 2012 was nice, beating East Carolina.

I promise you the NOB wasn't our first choice this year. Things just didn't fall in our favor towards the end of the Season.

It really sucked having to play Tulane which felt like just a regular season game. It feels like we didn't even goto a Bowl game this year. i'm sure Tulane feels the same way.

Next year, i promise you we won't be going to the NOB if we have an awesome Season with all the players that are returning.

I hope you are at the first place Red Wolves (2-0) basketball game. They are losing to 0-2 Troy 54-44 at the Half. Well, it's now 64-46.

1) No, its an argument I will win. I said you had no proof how your fan base would travel outside of New Orleans. You don't. I win.

2) I've heard lots of promises about next year from a lot of different fans of many schools. They all have equal value.

3) WTH does the ASU basketball game against Troy have to do with anything in this thread?

Let's get this straight, we have no proof that we can and you have no proof to show that UL is not capable, so it sounds like both of you are pissing in the wind.

But what we do know is that a number of programs that have driven similar distances from home, 2 to 3 hours for a bowl have not brought more to a bowl. Not UNT, Not Vanderbilt, Not Maryland....and the list goes on.

(01-09-2014 10:03 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:46 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:24 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  This is a argument no one will win since only one Bowl INVITED us 3 times. We never had a chance to chose between bowls. In 2011 after not being in a Bowl for 41 yrs. it was special playing a team we never played, San Diego St.

Even 2012 was nice, beating East Carolina.

I promise you the NOB wasn't our first choice this year. Things just didn't fall in our favor towards the end of the Season.

It really sucked having to play Tulane which felt like just a regular season game. It feels like we didn't even goto a Bowl game this year. i'm sure Tulane feels the same way.

Next year, i promise you we won't be going to the NOB if we have an awesome Season with all the players that are returning.

I hope you are at the first place Red Wolves (2-0) basketball game. They are losing to 0-2 Troy 54-44 at the Half. Well, it's now 64-46.

1) No, its an argument I will win. I said you had no proof how your fan base would travel outside of New Orleans. You don't. I win.

2) I've heard lots of promises about next year from a lot of different fans of many schools. They all have equal value.

3) WTH does the ASU basketball game against Troy have to do with anything in this thread?

Let's get this straight, we have no proof that we can and you have no proof to show that UL is not capable, so it sounds like both of you are pissing in the wind.

But what we do know is that a number of programs that have driven similar distances from home, 2 to 3 hours for a bowl have not brought more to a bowl. Not UNT, Not Vanderbilt, Not Maryland....and the list goes on.

That's right. We've made progress. You have no proof you can. Nobody has proof you can't. But the original point was that a bowl committee in (hypothetically) St. Petersburg, FL MIGHT select a team that they KNOW will bring 10,000 because of past history (actual data) over one they think might maybe possibly bring 20,000 but has no past history of doing so (no data).

This is why you need to try to branch out so you can PROVE with actual data how your fan base will travel at distances. And THAT was how the whole thing started.

(01-09-2014 10:08 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:03 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:46 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:24 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  This is a argument no one will win since only one Bowl INVITED us 3 times. We never had a chance to chose between bowls. In 2011 after not being in a Bowl for 41 yrs. it was special playing a team we never played, San Diego St.

Even 2012 was nice, beating East Carolina.

I promise you the NOB wasn't our first choice this year. Things just didn't fall in our favor towards the end of the Season.

It really sucked having to play Tulane which felt like just a regular season game. It feels like we didn't even goto a Bowl game this year. i'm sure Tulane feels the same way.

Next year, i promise you we won't be going to the NOB if we have an awesome Season with all the players that are returning.

I hope you are at the first place Red Wolves (2-0) basketball game. They are losing to 0-2 Troy 54-44 at the Half. Well, it's now 64-46.

1) No, its an argument I will win. I said you had no proof how your fan base would travel outside of New Orleans. You don't. I win.

2) I've heard lots of promises about next year from a lot of different fans of many schools. They all have equal value.

3) WTH does the ASU basketball game against Troy have to do with anything in this thread?

Let's get this straight, we have no proof that we can and you have no proof to show that UL is not capable, so it sounds like both of you are pissing in the wind.

But what we do know is that a number of programs that have driven similar distances from home, 2 to 3 hours for a bowl have not brought more to a bowl. Not UNT, Not Vanderbilt, Not Maryland....and the list goes on.

That's right. We've made progress. You have no proof you can. Nobody has proof you can't. But the original point was that a bowl committee in (hypothetically) St. Petersburg, FL MIGHT select a team that they KNOW will bring 10,000 because of past history (actual data) over one they think might maybe possibly bring 20,000 but has no past history of doing so (no data).

This is why you need to try to branch out so you can PROVE with actual data how your fan base will travel at distances. And THAT was how the whole thing started.

Who's not trying to branch out? You have to have an invite before you can accept it, unless you're Lolly Polly.

(01-09-2014 10:11 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:08 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:03 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:46 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:24 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  This is a argument no one will win since only one Bowl INVITED us 3 times. We never had a chance to chose between bowls. In 2011 after not being in a Bowl for 41 yrs. it was special playing a team we never played, San Diego St.

Even 2012 was nice, beating East Carolina.

I promise you the NOB wasn't our first choice this year. Things just didn't fall in our favor towards the end of the Season.

It really sucked having to play Tulane which felt like just a regular season game. It feels like we didn't even goto a Bowl game this year. i'm sure Tulane feels the same way.

Next year, i promise you we won't be going to the NOB if we have an awesome Season with all the players that are returning.

I hope you are at the first place Red Wolves (2-0) basketball game. They are losing to 0-2 Troy 54-44 at the Half. Well, it's now 64-46.

1) No, its an argument I will win. I said you had no proof how your fan base would travel outside of New Orleans. You don't. I win.

2) I've heard lots of promises about next year from a lot of different fans of many schools. They all have equal value.

3) WTH does the ASU basketball game against Troy have to do with anything in this thread?

Let's get this straight, we have no proof that we can and you have no proof to show that UL is not capable, so it sounds like both of you are pissing in the wind.

But what we do know is that a number of programs that have driven similar distances from home, 2 to 3 hours for a bowl have not brought more to a bowl. Not UNT, Not Vanderbilt, Not Maryland....and the list goes on.

That's right. We've made progress. You have no proof you can. Nobody has proof you can't. But the original point was that a bowl committee in (hypothetically) St. Petersburg, FL MIGHT select a team that they KNOW will bring 10,000 because of past history (actual data) over one they think might maybe possibly bring 20,000 but has no past history of doing so (no data).

This is why you need to try to branch out so you can PROVE with actual data how your fan base will travel at distances. And THAT was how the whole thing started.

Who's not trying to branch out? You have to have an invite before you can accept it, unless you're Lolly Polly.

I was aiming at those who had indicated no interest at all in going to Shreveport or Mobile. Yes, they want to branch out...but not to any bowl not good enough for them. Sometimes you have to think farther out than the next party.

But hey. I got a Cajun fan to agree that there is no actual proof that they will...or won't...travel long distance.

So I am thankfully done with this thread now, because I really don't actually care if your next 10 bowl games are all New Orleans Bowl.

(01-09-2014 10:21 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:11 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:08 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:03 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:46 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  1) No, its an argument I will win. I said you had no proof how your fan base would travel outside of New Orleans. You don't. I win.

2) I've heard lots of promises about next year from a lot of different fans of many schools. They all have equal value.

3) WTH does the ASU basketball game against Troy have to do with anything in this thread?

Let's get this straight, we have no proof that we can and you have no proof to show that UL is not capable, so it sounds like both of you are pissing in the wind.

But what we do know is that a number of programs that have driven similar distances from home, 2 to 3 hours for a bowl have not brought more to a bowl. Not UNT, Not Vanderbilt, Not Maryland....and the list goes on.

That's right. We've made progress. You have no proof you can. Nobody has proof you can't. But the original point was that a bowl committee in (hypothetically) St. Petersburg, FL MIGHT select a team that they KNOW will bring 10,000 because of past history (actual data) over one they think might maybe possibly bring 20,000 but has no past history of doing so (no data).

This is why you need to try to branch out so you can PROVE with actual data how your fan base will travel at distances. And THAT was how the whole thing started.

Who's not trying to branch out? You have to have an invite before you can accept it, unless you're Lolly Polly.

I was aiming at those who had indicated no interest at all in going to Shreveport or Mobile. Yes, they want to branch out...but not to any bowl not good enough for them. Sometimes you have to think farther out than the next party.

But hey. I got a Cajun fan to agree that there is no actual proof that they will...or won't...travel long distance.

So I am thankfully done with this thread now, because I really don't actually care if your next 10 bowl games are all New Orleans Bowl.

All I want is the best bowl game we can land each year. If that turns out to be New Orleans, I'll be fine with it.

(01-09-2014 10:25 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:21 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:11 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:08 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:03 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  Let's get this straight, we have no proof that we can and you have no proof to show that UL is not capable, so it sounds like both of you are pissing in the wind.

But what we do know is that a number of programs that have driven similar distances from home, 2 to 3 hours for a bowl have not brought more to a bowl. Not UNT, Not Vanderbilt, Not Maryland....and the list goes on.

That's right. We've made progress. You have no proof you can. Nobody has proof you can't. But the original point was that a bowl committee in (hypothetically) St. Petersburg, FL MIGHT select a team that they KNOW will bring 10,000 because of past history (actual data) over one they think might maybe possibly bring 20,000 but has no past history of doing so (no data).

This is why you need to try to branch out so you can PROVE with actual data how your fan base will travel at distances. And THAT was how the whole thing started.

Who's not trying to branch out? You have to have an invite before you can accept it, unless you're Lolly Polly.

I was aiming at those who had indicated no interest at all in going to Shreveport or Mobile. Yes, they want to branch out...but not to any bowl not good enough for them. Sometimes you have to think farther out than the next party.

But hey. I got a Cajun fan to agree that there is no actual proof that they will...or won't...travel long distance.

So I am thankfully done with this thread now, because I really don't actually care if your next 10 bowl games are all New Orleans Bowl.

All I want is the best bowl game we can land each year. If that turns out to be New Orleans, I'll be fine with it.

I disagree. I really would like to travel some place different. Now if the best option is NOLA then so be it but I would prefer to fly someplace and have a little vacation. We do need to build our bowl resume and not be a one trick pony. I live about 35 minutes from the Superdome and the first year was great, the second year was fun and this year was kind of boring. I mean beating Tulane doesn't really do anything for me. Although it was funny to hear their smack for a couple of weeks. They really don't get to do that very often. It was also revealing listen to our so called conference brothers wish for us to fail.

I really wish people would educate themselves how bowl invites work. You can **** in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first.

(01-10-2014 10:28 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:25 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:21 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:11 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:08 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  That's right. We've made progress. You have no proof you can. Nobody has proof you can't. But the original point was that a bowl committee in (hypothetically) St. Petersburg, FL MIGHT select a team that they KNOW will bring 10,000 because of past history (actual data) over one they think might maybe possibly bring 20,000 but has no past history of doing so (no data).

This is why you need to try to branch out so you can PROVE with actual data how your fan base will travel at distances. And THAT was how the whole thing started.

Who's not trying to branch out? You have to have an invite before you can accept it, unless you're Lolly Polly.

I was aiming at those who had indicated no interest at all in going to Shreveport or Mobile. Yes, they want to branch out...but not to any bowl not good enough for them. Sometimes you have to think farther out than the next party.

But hey. I got a Cajun fan to agree that there is no actual proof that they will...or won't...travel long distance.

So I am thankfully done with this thread now, because I really don't actually care if your next 10 bowl games are all New Orleans Bowl.

All I want is the best bowl game we can land each year. If that turns out to be New Orleans, I'll be fine with it.

It was also revealing listen to our so called conference brothers wish for us to fail.

Link?

(01-10-2014 10:28 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  It was also revealing listen to our so called conference brothers wish for us to fail.

That didn't happen nearly as much as you like to think.

(01-10-2014 11:58 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 10:28 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  It was also revealing listen to our so called conference brothers wish for us to fail.

That didn't happen nearly as much as you like to think.

There is nothing wrong with being hated, Cajun90 is just a very sensitive person. Troy has been hated by many because of its success in Football, Western Kentucky for basketball, UL and South Al for baseball and UL for Softball. Who cares? I would trade winning for being hated everyday!

(01-10-2014 10:49 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 10:28 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:25 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:21 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:11 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Who's not trying to branch out? You have to have an invite before you can accept it, unless you're Lolly Polly.

I was aiming at those who had indicated no interest at all in going to Shreveport or Mobile. Yes, they want to branch out...but not to any bowl not good enough for them. Sometimes you have to think farther out than the next party.

But hey. I got a Cajun fan to agree that there is no actual proof that they will...or won't...travel long distance.

So I am thankfully done with this thread now, because I really don't actually care if your next 10 bowl games are all New Orleans Bowl.

All I want is the best bowl game we can land each year. If that turns out to be New Orleans, I'll be fine with it.

It was also revealing listen to our so called conference brothers wish for us to fail.

Link?

I know you guys like to make it out to be you against the world, but there is no one on the board who was wishing you would not travel well and lose. Post one quote from the board from someone within the conference and I will make my avatar anything the ULL poster wants.