First they complain if we dont play them and call us chicken,then on the same sentence they say we need to play them more than they need us. Then they say they dont care if we play them.LOL thats why you cant never discuss any issues with them because they have all their bases covered.
The more i hear this drivel the more i hope that we never play their sorry asses and let them keep thinking we are afraid and that they are superior.
If you guys dont care why are all of you guys in a Big East board starting negative posts about USF. You dont see USF fans starting threads about UCF on the CUSA boards.

Exactly. Starting threads on the Big East AND C-USA board about USF is BEYOND obsessive. Whether you want to accept it or not you're treating South Florida the same way you treat Florida State and Miami and Florida as far as sounding jealous and obsessing over them because they're in a BCS conference. USF will have to find ONE more game then Central Florida big whoop. The Big East plays 7 conference games, you act like we only play 4 or 5 games and have to round out a 7 game OOC schedule or something. I doubt that USF will be forced to play FIU and Florida Atlantic, or whoever, every year. They're doing a good job scheduling Miami-OH, North Carolina, Penn State and Kansas so that's not bad at all. They definitely don't have to bend over and take a 2 for 1 deal because their "BCS master" made them do it.

CardinalJim Wrote:As a follow-up to my previous post about Central Florida fans having misplaced anger concerning their present situation in college football, I did a little research. Central Florida played football for 18 years before they played a team from the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-10 or SEC. USF, on the other hand, stepped up and played an SEC school in just their 4th season. Now I realize it was only Kentucky, hardly a power program from the SEC, but my point is why didn't Central Florida schedule UK, Vandy, Duke, Baylor or some other bottom dweller from one of the power conferences. Are you telling me none of these program could find a way to work the Knights on to their schedules or vice versa. If I was a Central Florida fan I would be asking my administration WTF was going on for nearly two decades in my athletic department instead of attacking USF and its leadership for having the stones to think big. I believe USF, and its forward thinking leadership, were rewarded with an invite to the Big East because of this attitude. I now see why Tom Jurich, the AD here at Louisville, campaigned so strongly for the folks in Tampa. Jurich recognized early on the huge potential that can be realized when you combine effort, the attitude at USF, and the opportunity membership in a BCS conference can provide.
Fans of Central Florida have no reason to attack USF an every reason to question what happened in Orlando.
CJ

CardinalJim,

Sorry you don't understand the difference between UCF (which started playing Div III Football) and USF (which started playing Div I-AA ball).

I can't recall the last time a team from the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12 played a Div III school.

I realize that you may not know the history of both programs...but hopefully, that will help you out.

Oh...and of course no one will forget Louisville's 42-21 victory over then Div II UCF in 1985.

KL

PS. UCF played at #1 FSU when UCF was in Div I-AA. Something tells me that's a tougher game than playing at UK...but that's just my opinion.

Galahad is the same guy who for years went by the handles of guru and then south tampa knight, and ripped USF with the flawed logic for years. He was convinced that USF would lose to UCF last year and ran smack to back up that opinion.

funny thing.....USF demolished UCF and he was never seen again under his old south tampa knight handle. he is now beyond any doubt the old south tampa knight, so much so that his own 'fans' make fun of him on the ucf board.

ucf will earn my respect on the football field when they put up a competitive game against usf. Considering how feeble their effort was last year I have no reason to respect the Tinmen for years on out since the will likely not play anymore.

Quote:I guess Central Florida doesn't have a huge fanbase either considering South Florida blew away Central Florida in terms of attendance figures. Of course I guess you'll come up with and excuse like USF "lied" about their attendance or something weak like that. South Florida has a fine fan base and they are doing a great job building up their program.

that would almost mean somthing is The Tampa Sports Authority showed the same or even close numbers as USF, but they don't. The Orlando Sentinal for the second year in a row shows UCF had more butts in the seats than USF.

KnightLight Wrote:

CardinalJim Wrote:As a follow-up to my previous post about Central Florida fans having misplaced anger concerning their present situation in college football, I did a little research. Central Florida played football for 18 years before they played a team from the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-10 or SEC. USF, on the other hand, stepped up and played an SEC school in just their 4th season. Now I realize it was only Kentucky, hardly a power program from the SEC, but my point is why didn't Central Florida schedule UK, Vandy, Duke, Baylor or some other bottom dweller from one of the power conferences. Are you telling me none of these program could find a way to work the Knights on to their schedules or vice versa. If I was a Central Florida fan I would be asking my administration WTF was going on for nearly two decades in my athletic department instead of attacking USF and its leadership for having the stones to think big. I believe USF, and its forward thinking leadership, were rewarded with an invite to the Big East because of this attitude. I now see why Tom Jurich, the AD here at Louisville, campaigned so strongly for the folks in Tampa. Jurich recognized early on the huge potential that can be realized when you combine effort, the attitude at USF, and the opportunity membership in a BCS conference can provide.
Fans of Central Florida have no reason to attack USF an every reason to question what happened in Orlando.
CJ

CardinalJim,

Sorry you don't understand the difference between UCF (which started playing Div III Football) and USF (which started playing Div I-AA ball).

I can't recall the last time a team from the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12 played a Div III school.

I realize that you may not know the history of both programs...but hopefully, that will help you out.

Oh...and of course no one will forget Louisville's 42-21 victory over then Div II UCF in 1985.

KL

PS. UCF played at #1 FSU when UCF was in Div I-AA. Something tells me that's a tougher game than playing at UK...but that's just my opinion.

You had a 14 year head start on USF, I don't care what division you played in. When did Central Florida decide they wanted to be big time in college football, right after USF played their first game. My point is Central Flroida has no one to blame but themselves for not being "ready" when the Big East came calling. Like I said before, you had a 14 year head start. Somebody dropped the ball at Central Florida. That's who Central Florida should be pissed at, not USF.
CJ

CardinalJim Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:

CardinalJim Wrote:As a follow-up to my previous post about Central Florida fans having misplaced anger concerning their present situation in college football, I did a little research. Central Florida played football for 18 years before they played a team from the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-10 or SEC. USF, on the other hand, stepped up and played an SEC school in just their 4th season. Now I realize it was only Kentucky, hardly a power program from the SEC, but my point is why didn't Central Florida schedule UK, Vandy, Duke, Baylor or some other bottom dweller from one of the power conferences. Are you telling me none of these program could find a way to work the Knights on to their schedules or vice versa. If I was a Central Florida fan I would be asking my administration WTF was going on for nearly two decades in my athletic department instead of attacking USF and its leadership for having the stones to think big. I believe USF, and its forward thinking leadership, were rewarded with an invite to the Big East because of this attitude. I now see why Tom Jurich, the AD here at Louisville, campaigned so strongly for the folks in Tampa. Jurich recognized early on the huge potential that can be realized when you combine effort, the attitude at USF, and the opportunity membership in a BCS conference can provide.
Fans of Central Florida have no reason to attack USF an every reason to question what happened in Orlando.
CJ

CardinalJim,

Sorry you don't understand the difference between UCF (which started playing Div III Football) and USF (which started playing Div I-AA ball).

I can't recall the last time a team from the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12 played a Div III school.

I realize that you may not know the history of both programs...but hopefully, that will help you out.

Oh...and of course no one will forget Louisville's 42-21 victory over then Div II UCF in 1985.

KL

PS. UCF played at #1 FSU when UCF was in Div I-AA. Something tells me that's a tougher game than playing at UK...but that's just my opinion.

You had a 14 year head start on USF, I don't care what division you played in. When did Central Florida decide they wanted to be big time in college football, right after USF played their first game. My point is Central Flroida has no one to blame but themselves for not being "ready" when the Big East came calling. Like I said before, you had a 14 year head start. Somebody dropped the ball at Central Florida. That's who Central Florida should be pissed at, not USF.
CJ

Who's blaming anyone?

UCF had ZERO desire to become a I-A player back in the 70's, 80's, and even early 90's.

The football landscape was much different.

Climate changed...more folks got involved...and then the push to become an I-A program began around '93-'94.

I haven't seen anyone "blame" USF for anything...they are just our closest I-A rival, a mirrored school that is virtually the same exact size in student population...plus most Alumni for both stay in Tampa and/or Orlando...and other with connections to either school knows friends/even family that went/goes to the other school.

That's what makes talking about both schools so much fun.

USF started their football program another way...with vision immediately on I-A status around '95.

If UCF/USF were back in I-AA...the feelings probably (because of all of the above) would be the same.

KL

Most people don't understand why UCF is where they are and USF is where they are. I give credit to USF because they were at the right place at the right time. I will also say, USf has accomplished nothing on the field that UCF has not. The difference between the two schools, the Sundome. The state of Florida gave USF the sundome back in the 70's and they used that to build a solid basketball program in the 80's and early 90's. That basketball program kept them in the Metro Conference, which turned into CUSA, which, when they decidede to start a football program, got their football team into a conference before UCF could.

UCF could have been in the Metro Conferene, but our AD was more a a football guy and did not want any part of a basketball conference.

Basically, USF and UCF are twins when it comes to Universities in the aspect of age, stuent body and studies. USF has a medical school, UCF has focused on more undergraduate stuff and specialty schools such as laser research and Computer Science. Now UCF will get a medical school and USF is expanding their undergrad stuff. Either way, it all comes down to a gift the State of Florida gave USF over 30 years ago.

You are right about blame, UCF deserves a lot of blame for having the wrong leadership in place during the early 90's. Steve Sloan, our AD, was completely asleep at the wheel. He did not have the mental abilities to help UCF grow, he was never meant to be a big time AD.

USF is in the Big East, good for them, will UCF be in the Big East, probably the way things are looking, but either way, UCF is moving forward without the Big East. Come 2007, when Texas is at UCF or the opening of the new arena, it won't matter if UCF is in a BCS conference or not, the experiance that UCF fans will feel on our own campus will rival or surpass those of any Big East school. And if Big East fans really think that UCF is not worthy of a an invite, I would say you need to stop reading these boards, take a trip down to Orlando and see it for yourself.

I have been to every SEC school for games, Cuse, WVU, Nebraska, GT, Clemson, VT, FSU, Miami and more. Outside of the Army/Navy game(which is the best football game anyone can watch in person, ever) there is never a comparison when it comes to on campus versus off campus for games. UCF realizes that and is not only building the stadium and arena, but also built a first class Alumni Center across the street from the 100,000 square feet of retail, bars and restaurants lined along the stadium drive. It will be an all day/all weekend activity. Compared to getting in and out of the ghetto around the Citrus Dump, the football world will see why we UCF fans think we have something very special.

Sir Galahad Wrote:

Quote:I guess Central Florida doesn't have a huge fanbase either considering South Florida blew away Central Florida in terms of attendance figures. Of course I guess you'll come up with and excuse like USF "lied" about their attendance or something weak like that. South Florida has a fine fan base and they are doing a great job building up their program.

that would almost mean somthing is The Tampa Sports Authority showed the same or even close numbers as USF, but they don't. The Orlando Sentinal for the second year in a row shows UCF had more butts in the seats than USF.

UCF had more butts in the seats last year?


That is not even worth the nouns, verbs and adjectives it would take to refute.

Keep dreaming Phil....

I guess people will lie about anything to try and prove a point.

Sir Galahad Wrote:Most people don't understand why UCF is where they are and USF is where they are. I give credit to USF because they were at the right place at the right time.

That is a crock. USF has been around longer than UCF but the administration did not sanction college athletics until the early 1970s. So UCF and USF had similar start up times in terms of sports. Every opportunity available to USF was also available to UCF.

Quote:I will also say, USf has accomplished nothing on the field that UCF has not.

Really?

1. BCS conference
2. Beaten two Top 25 opponents in football since going DIA just 5 years ago. USF has also beaten a bunch of BCS programs whereas UCF's lone to claim to fame is beating a down and out 3-8 Alabama team.
3. At large bid from a solid basketball program instead of an autobid from the TAAC
4. Beaten a handful of Top 25 basketball opponents. Beaten many national programs as well.
5. Six outs away from the College World Series....
6. got into all sports conference before UCF....

I could go on but until UCF can boast about any of these it's just sour grapes

Quote:The difference between the two schools, the Sundome. The state of Florida gave USF the sundome back in the 70's and they used that to build a solid basketball program in the 80's and early 90's.

Wrong again, the State of Florida paid for about half of the SunDome and made that offer to all State schools including UCF. Just b/c your leadership had no clue is not USF's fault.

Quote:That basketball program kept them in the Metro Conference, which turned into CUSA, which, when they decidede to start a football program, got their football team into a conference before UCF could.

Do you even get tired of playing the victim card? Once again bad leadership kept UCF out of a conference. C-USA approached UCF back in early 1990s about joining the nascent league. UCF thought they were "better" than CUSA and dimwittedly not only dismissed the idea of joining the new league but talk badly about the league in public.
UCF could have been in the Metro Conferene, but our AD was more a a football guy and did not want any part of a basketball conference.

Quote:Basically, USF and UCF are twins when it comes to Universities in the aspect of age, stuent body and studies. USF has a medical school, UCF has focused on more undergraduate stuff and specialty schools such as laser research and Computer Science. Now UCF will get a medical school and USF is expanding their undergrad stuff. Either way, it all comes down to a gift the State of Florida gave USF over 30 years ago.

You are almost right about this one. USF understood early on that national recognition could be better attained by emphasizing graduate education. It's easier to focus on undergraduate education, b/c there is no inherent creation of knowledge as there is in graduate education. Thus it's going to be much easier for USF to bolster it's undergrad education to a Top 50 public university level than it's going to be for UCF to reach USF's level of research funding. Growing a medical school is a long term project, something many who think UCF will immediately compete with UF and USF for funding dollars have no clue about.

Quote:You are right about blame, UCF deserves a lot of blame for having the wrong leadership in place during the early 90's. Steve Sloan, our AD, was completely asleep at the wheel. He did not have the mental abilities to help UCF grow, he was never meant to be a big time AD.

Agree, but funny how most USF fans were saying this for years until it became obvious that Sloan and Krapchek were ignorant sloths.

Quote:USF is in the Big East, good for them, will UCF be in the Big East, probably the way things are looking, but either way, UCF is moving forward without the Big East.

Really? Where is your invite? Where is the evidence that the BE is going to expand? Unless UCF comes football only I doubt that UCF is going to be changing leagues anytime soon. It would be more correct to say that Big East moved forward without UCF.

Quote:Come 2007, when Texas is at UCF or the opening of the new arena, it won't matter if UCF is in a BCS conference or not, the experiance that UCF fans will feel on our own campus will rival or surpass those of any Big East school. And if Big East fans really think that UCF is not worthy of a an invite, I would say you need to stop reading these boards, take a trip down to Orlando and see it for yourself.

You act like BigEast schools have not hosted big time opponents, which is ludicrous considering the storied programs inthe BigEast such as Pitt, WVU and Syracuse. All these programs have gone to a BCS bowl game over the last 10 years. Similarly, not only has UL hosted bigtime programs like FSU but actually beat them, something that UCF will not do against Texas. Sure you will have a nice gate for your stadium opener, but that would have happened anyways. However how many of those bandwagon fans are going to show up for you CDOA schedule? Bandwagon? Yes, b/c if they weren't where are they now when you can't even sell more season tickets than a 9 year old program?

Quote:there is never a comparison when it comes to on campus versus off campus for games.

Do you know how stupid you sound? Most BigEast schools have their own stadium. Furthermore, Rutgers has been on campus for over 100 years and that hasn't helped thme program wise until recently. Are you also suggesting that programs like USC, UCLA, Miami etc are suffering b/c they do not have a on campus stadium?

Quote:UCF realizes that and is not only building the stadium and arena, but also built a first class Alumni Center across the street from the 100,000 square feet of retail, bars and restaurants lined along the stadium drive. It will be an all day/all weekend activity. Compared to getting in and out of the ghetto around the Citrus Dump, the football world will see why we UCF fans think we have something very special.

1. Last time I checked Universities were designed to educate students, research and other scholarly pursuits. Nowhere have I seen that it is important to create an entertainment distric for alumni visiting campus 6 times a year for football and 14 times for basketball.

2. Miami plays in less than a stellar neighborhood and that hasn't stopped them from having a special program.

3. Most universities have an alumni center. USF just finished expanding their alumni center.....congrats, welcome to the 21st century


Bottom line: UCF is finally doing some good things, but the bottom line is winning on the field. Until that happens against respected opponents it doesn't matter unless you want to field a Patriot League type of team. O'Liar is lucky that he can recruit low risk, non-athletic stiffs and still compete in CUSA. That speaks volumes for the quality of the league but also begs the question about when is O'Liar really going to earn his money? Is winning CDOA enough? Because you are not recruiting the kind of athletes that will let you be competitve on a national level. If being at the level of Boise State is enough for UCF fans more power to you. Every year Boise State gets a lot of pub and goes through their conference schedule with very little resistance. However when it came to strapping it on against real competition, such as Georgia last year they got waxed.
Sure building a Boise State type program will get you ranked in the Top 25, but you will always know that it's second class to a succesful BCS program. That is what USF is trying to build. We are not there yet but we are getting better every year.

Quote:1. BCS conference
2. Beaten two Top 25 opponents in football since going DIA just 5 years ago. USF has also beaten a bunch of BCS programs whereas UCF's lone to claim to fame is beating a down and out 3-8 Alabama team.
3. At large bid from a solid basketball program instead of an autobid from the TAAC
4. Beaten a handful of Top 25 basketball opponents. Beaten many national programs as well.
5. Six outs away from the College World Series....
6. got into all sports conference before UCF....

Maybe you did not understand what "on the field" means. Never mentioned anything about basketball here, but don't go calling the teams USF beat last year from the Big East, 'BCS' teams. USF has never beaten a BCS team not in the Big East.

Quote:Wrong again, the State of Florida paid for about half of the SunDome and made that offer to all State schools including UCF. Just b/c your leadership had no clue is not USF's fault.

Wrong cyber, the state paid for half of the O'Connell center in Gainesville because UF wanted a larger version, which it got. The O'Connell center has UF's Swimming pool and gym built into the sides of the O'Connell Center. USF just got the basic shell, which the state paid for.

Quote:Do you even get tired of playing the victim card? Once again bad leadership kept UCF out of a conference. C-USA approached UCF back in early 1990s about joining the nascent league. UCF thought they were "better" than CUSA and dimwittedly not only dismissed the idea of joining the new league but talk badly about the league in public.
UCF could have been in the Metro Conferene, but our AD was more a a football guy and did not want any part of a basketball conference.

Once again, you are showing what you don't know about the subjects. CUSA did not exist back in the early 90's, what was then was the Metro Conference, and I already covered that area as to why UCF did not go to the Metro.

Quote:You are almost right about this one. USF understood early on that national recognition could be better attained by emphasizing graduate education. It's easier to focus on undergraduate education, b/c there is no inherent creation of knowledge as there is in graduate education. Thus it's going to be much easier for USF to bolster it's undergrad education to a Top 50 public university level than it's going to be for UCF to reach USF's level of research funding. Growing a medical school is a long term project, something many who think UCF will immediately compete with UF and USF for funding dollars have no clue about.

Nice attempt at a back handed slap, but you are off again. There is a big reason why UCF is considered a better school than USF and it has everything to do with the quality of incoming freshman. There is a reason why UCF ranks second only to UF in terms of difficulty to get in and freshman honors and why USF is beind, UF, UCF, FSU, FAU and FIU. UCF already is considered excellent in engineer, laser research and computer science. Maybe you should read this article:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/state/conte..._0702.html

Quote:gree, but funny how most USF fans were saying this for years until it became obvious that Sloan and Krapchek were ignorant sloths

Funny, we UCF fans are saying the same things about how Leavitt is running USF football program now.

Quote:Really? Where is your invite? Where is the evidence that the BE is going to expand? Unless UCF comes football only I doubt that UCF is going to be changing leagues anytime soon. It would be more correct to say that Big East moved forward without UCF.

Well I know you just don't want to admit it, so I will post just a little post from say a Pitt board:

Just found something interesting about UCF Reply

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Pretty decent academics. I had no idea. Might make a nice Big East school a few years from now. Lots of promise here. Get ND out, bring in UCF, and all the sudden we have 10 football schools and 16 schools for all the other sports. Not now, but a few years from now.
http://pittsburgh.rivals.com/showmsg.asp...d=&style=2

Quote:You act like BigEast schools have not hosted big time opponents, which is ludicrous considering the storied programs inthe BigEast such as Pitt, WVU and Syracuse. All these programs have gone to a BCS bowl game over the last 10 years. Similarly, not only has UL hosted bigtime programs like FSU but actually beat them, something that UCF will not do against Texas. Sure you will have a nice gate for your stadium opener, but that would have happened anyways. However how many of those bandwagon fans are going to show up for you CDOA schedule? Bandwagon? Yes, b/c if they weren't where are they now when you can't even sell more season tickets than a 9 year old program?

cyber, I understand you went to USF, so you are at a disadvantage right off the bat so I will break it down for you. I said "the experiance that UCF fans will feel on our own campus will rival or surpass those of any Big East school considering that there are not too many stadiums in the Big East that have more seats than UCF's stadium will have, and considering that the game will be on national TV and considering that it will be a sell out, I would find it hard to believe that the atmosphere could not RIVAL anything in the Big East.

Cyber, it is very evident that you suffering from the ***** envy that UCF is building. You can mask it with you "got BCS" crap, but those BCS numbers did nothing for USF last year as it was two Florida teams that broght the biggest crowds to USF, no matter how many times your athletic department changes the numbers. Face it, bringing Cuse, Pitt and others down to play at an off campus NFL stadium with no USF markings on the field will never surpass the excitment of playing on campus. I have been to several USF games and I will tell you that no matter how many McDonalds commercials they play there, no matter how sad it is that Paul Porter has to scream "defense" over the PA system, USF does not play in a college atmosphere. Hell, USF might not even have a band this year. Where is all that BCS money that USF can't even support a band.

[quote="Sir Galahad"]

Quote: I have been to several USF games and I will tell you that no matter how many McDonalds commercials they play there, no matter how sad it is that Paul Porter has to scream "defense" over the PA system, USF does not play in a college atmosphere. Hell, USF might not even have a band this year. Where is all that BCS money that USF can't even support a band.

so now you go to our games, how obsessive can you be? better ask publix to move you out of south tampa, phil, it can't be good for your heart.

Sir Galahad Wrote:

Quote:I guess Central Florida doesn't have a huge fanbase either considering South Florida blew away Central Florida in terms of attendance figures. Of course I guess you'll come up with and excuse like USF "lied" about their attendance or something weak like that. South Florida has a fine fan base and they are doing a great job building up their program.

that would almost mean somthing is The Tampa Sports Authority showed the same or even close numbers as USF, but they don't. The Orlando Sentinal for the second year in a row shows UCF had more butts in the seats than USF.

I don't know what the TSA has to do with this but the NCAA has certified these numbers to be accurate..

UCF averaged 28,462 per game for 5 games. 40.5% of Stadium Capacity
USF averaged 38,865 per game for 5 games. 93.7% of Stadium Capacity.

Also found it interesting that the Central Florida game was NOT the most well attended game of the season for USF. The conference game against WVU was. Apparently there was more interest in Big East competition than a local rival.
CJ

CardinalJim Wrote:

Sir Galahad Wrote:

Quote:I guess Central Florida doesn't have a huge fanbase either considering South Florida blew away Central Florida in terms of attendance figures. Of course I guess you'll come up with and excuse like USF "lied" about their attendance or something weak like that. South Florida has a fine fan base and they are doing a great job building up their program.

that would almost mean somthing is The Tampa Sports Authority showed the same or even close numbers as USF, but they don't. The Orlando Sentinal for the second year in a row shows UCF had more butts in the seats than USF.

I don't know what the TSA has to do with this but the NCAA has certified these numbers to be accurate..


UCF averaged 28,462 per game for 5 games. 40.5% of Stadium Capacity
USF averaged 38,865 per game for 5 games. 93.7% of Stadium Capacity.

Also found it interesting that the Central Florida game was NOT the most well attended game of the season for USF. The conference game against WVU was. Apparently there was more interest in Big East competition than a local rival.
CJ

UCF for USF..."Good Trade" as they said in the movie...a no-brainer.....but...no-one ever accused the small least lite bush league Commish of having any ....lol...

EagleGhost Wrote:UCF for USF..."Good Trade" as they said in the movie...a no-brainer.....but...no-one ever accused the small least lite bush league Commish of having any ....lol...

And to think I thought we had seen the last of your lame smack last week when I ***** slapped you back to the middle ages. What is finally your turn at the computer there at the Picayune Library, or whatever backwater, inbred Mississippi burg your trailer happens to be parked in this week. Perhaps you have finally decided to grow a set and keep the same screen name after a beat down, I'm impressed.

Now take your Mid-Major cheering, Walmart Shopping, Stained Wife Beater wearing ass back to whatever board you like to call home. I would tell you to go back to the CUSA board but you don't post there. (Just check out this limp dick's previous posts on his profile for proof.)

Truth is this dip sh*t, with the skullet and two teeth, is here following the advice of a College Football Net columnist and taking notes. You see this redneck inbred, with the looks only a welfare mom with 6 kids from 6 different fathers could love, is here because a college football writer gave him and the rest of his mustard buzzard bunch advice. Advice they needed to hear. If you want to become the "next Louisville", you need to beat Tulsa first... lmfao lmfao lmfao

So with that bit of information why don't you sign on to the Tulsa board next week, when your turn at the computer comes around at whatever library you park your trailer at next week.

Until next week, tell your Mom I said Hi.
CJ

CardinalJim Wrote:

EagleGhost Wrote:UCF for USF..."Good Trade" as they said in the movie...a no-brainer.....but...no-one ever accused the small least lite bush league Commish of having any ....lol...

And to think I thought we had seen the last of your lame smack last week when I biscuit eater slapped you back to the middle ages. What is finally your turn at the computer there at the Picayune Library, or whatever backwater, inbred Mississippi burg your trailer happens to be parked in this week. Perhaps you have finally decided to grow a set and keep the same screen name after a beat down, I'm impressed.

Now take your Mid-Major cheering, Walmart Shopping, Stained Wife Beater wearing ass back to whatever board you like to call home. I would tell you to go back to the CUSA board but you don't post there. (Just check out this limp dick's previous posts on his profile for proof.)

Truth is this dip sh*t, with the skullet and two teeth, is here following the advice of a College Football Net columnist and taking notes. You see this redneck inbred, with the looks only a welfare mom with 6 kids from 6 different fathers could love, is here because a college football writer gave him and the rest of his mustard buzzard bunch advice. Advice they needed to hear. If you want to become the "next Louisville", you need to beat Tulsa first... lmfao lmfao lmfao

So with that bit of information why don't you sign on to the Tulsa board next week, when your turn at the computer comes around at whatever library you park your trailer at next week.

Until next week, tell your Mom I said Hi.
CJ

Remember...my childish grave thumping moron....my mother's been dead for 26 years...and only a small least lite bush league fan would think he got the best of anyone...lol...I'm still rolling on the floor laughing out loud over your statement that you got the best of me....that's priceless....as usual....

She is in a better place away from her retarded son.

Go home, this is where the Big Boys play, like Fuitak and CJ said and it is sound advise. Worry about becoming the next Tulsa before you can worry about TCU or Louisville.

EagleGhost Wrote:

CardinalJim Wrote:

EagleGhost Wrote:UCF for USF..."Good Trade" as they said in the movie...a no-brainer.....but...no-one ever accused the small least lite bush league Commish of having any ....lol...

And to think I thought we had seen the last of your lame smack last week when I biscuit eater slapped you back to the middle ages. What is finally your turn at the computer there at the Picayune Library, or whatever backwater, inbred Mississippi burg your trailer happens to be parked in this week. Perhaps you have finally decided to grow a set and keep the same screen name after a beat down, I'm impressed.

Now take your Mid-Major cheering, Walmart Shopping, Stained Wife Beater wearing ass back to whatever board you like to call home. I would tell you to go back to the CUSA board but you don't post there. (Just check out this limp dick's previous posts on his profile for proof.)

Truth is this dip sh*t, with the skullet and two teeth, is here following the advice of a College Football Net columnist and taking notes. You see this redneck inbred, with the looks only a welfare mom with 6 kids from 6 different fathers could love, is here because a college football writer gave him and the rest of his mustard buzzard bunch advice. Advice they needed to hear. If you want to become the "next Louisville", you need to beat Tulsa first... lmfao lmfao lmfao

So with that bit of information why don't you sign on to the Tulsa board next week, when your turn at the computer comes around at whatever library you park your trailer at next week.

Until next week, tell your Mom I said Hi.
CJ

and only a small least lite bush league fan would think he got the best of anyone...lol...I'm still rolling on the floor laughing out loud over your statement that you got the best of me....that's priceless....as usual....

Actually, I think it's funny that your only responses to smack are as follows

"That smack is weak"
or the classic
"The BE sucks"
and the winner of least original response ever
"18-8-1"

Quote: don't know what the TSA has to do with this but the NCAA has certified these numbers to be accurate..

Jim, the TSA is the one in charge of Raymond James and are the ones that actually staff the stadium. Thus, they have the employees that take the tickets and count the turnstyles. The numbers they release are the actual numbers of people that entered the stadium. What USF counts are tickets distriubuted, bought or given.

Quote:UCF averaged 28,462 per game for 5 games. 40.5% of Stadium Capacity
USF averaged 38,865 per game for 5 games. 93.7% of Stadium Capacity.

This alone should tell you all you need to know about USF. According to your own numbers here, USF is saying that 38,865 is equal to 93.7% of Raymond James. USF is saying the stadium capacity of Raymond James is then 44,000. From everything I know of Raymond James, Capacity is closer to 66,000. You see, USF does not count the upper decks of Raymond James, even though they opened them three times last year. UCF counts butts in the seats, and also counts the whole stadium as capacity, thus the 40.5%. Just another example of how USF plays with the numbers.

Quote:Also found it interesting that the Central Florida game was NOT the most well attended game of the season for USF. The conference game against WVU was. Apparently there was more interest in Big East competition than a local rival.

Yes, amazing how its exactly 100 people more than at the UCF game, even though the WVU game was moved twice and also played on the same day as every conference championship game. Oh and the attendance was also restated by USF twice. Go check the Tampa Sports Authority if you want the real numbers. UCF blew WVU away in attendance. USF does not want this known because they don't want to play this game and they know they will catch hell from the media.