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New Playoff System
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I am not one of those people that knows everything about football or spends hours on the internet roaming forums. I am curious about is this new playoff format and how its going to affect the AAC.
1. Will we even have a chance to play in a "BCS bowl" (I realize the BCS will be gone, I dont know what their calling the bowls now) with this new format?
2. Can someone explain to me how this system works?
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10-27-2013 08:45 AM |
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RE: New Playoff System
We won't be involved. Seriously we should sue.
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10-27-2013 08:54 AM |
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 08:54 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: We won't be involved. Seriously we should sue.
Really? That's some straight up BS! So the rest of the conferences are pretty much just left out of the mix to do what? Sit at the kiddo table drinking from our sippy cups?
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 09:07 AM)nosurf2day Wrote: (10-27-2013 08:54 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: We won't be involved. Seriously we should sue.
Really? That's some straight up BS! So the rest of the conferences are pretty much just left out of the mix to do what? Sit at the kiddo table drinking from our sippy cups?
It's kinda like it is now only 4 teams go to a playoff. Those 4 teams will almost always be from p5 schools. There is a small possibility that we'll be included but not really. We'll also have really bad bowl games.
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 09:12 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: (10-27-2013 09:07 AM)nosurf2day Wrote: (10-27-2013 08:54 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: We won't be involved. Seriously we should sue.
Really? That's some straight up BS! So the rest of the conferences are pretty much just left out of the mix to do what? Sit at the kiddo table drinking from our sippy cups?
It's kinda like it is now only 4 teams go to a playoff. Those 4 teams will almost always be from p5 schools. There is a small possibility that we'll be included but not really. We'll also have really bad bowl games.
I am curious how long the structure will stay at 4 playoff games. That's kinda small, I wonder if it will ever move to say 8 teams, that would be a better playoff format I would think.
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2013 10:08 AM by nosurf2day.)
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RE: New Playoff System
Basic structure of new system:
There are 6 bowls involved in the new playoff system which is replacing the BCS. Each year, 2 of these bowls will host the semifinals of the playoffs, and the other 4 will just be normal bowl games (analogous to the current "BCS Bowls").
The championship game will not come from these 6 bowls. It will be selected for each year from cities who submit bids to host it (like the Super Bowl or NCAA Final Four).
Here are the 6 bowls involved including their contracted match-ups when those bowls aren't hosting playoff games:
Rose Bowl — Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl — SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl — ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Fiesta Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Chick-fil-A Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
The top 3 bowls in the list are called "Contract Bowls" because they are contracted with specific conferences. In years where one of the contract bowls hosts the the semifinals, its contracted teams will get to play in one of the host bowls.
The bottom 3 bowls are called "Host Bowls" because they are not contracted with specific conferences but will host playoff games every few years as part of the rotation.
The selection committee will decide which 4 teams get to play in the 2 playoff bowls and will fill in the "at-large" spots in the other 4 bowls. Each year, they will select the top G5 team (AAC, C-USA, MAC, Sun Belt, MWC) to fill in one of these at-large spots.
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2013 10:04 AM by Inigo.)
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 10:01 AM)Inigo Wrote: Basic structure of new system:
There are 6 bowls involved in the new playoff system which is replacing the BCS. Each year, 2 of these bowls will host the semifinals of the playoffs, and the other 4 will just be normal bowl games (analogous to the current "BCS Bowls").
The championship game will not come from these 6 bowls. It will be selected for each year from cities who submit bids to host it (like the Super Bowl or NCAA Final Four).
Here are the 6 bowls involved including their contracted match-ups when those bowls aren't hosting playoff games:
Rose Bowl — Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl — SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl — ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Fiesta Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Chick-fil-A Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
The top 3 bowls in the list are called "Contract Bowls" because they are contracted with specific conferences. In years where one of the contract bowls hosts the the semifinals, its contracted teams will get to play in one of the host bowls.
The bottom 3 bowls are called "Host Bowls" because they are not contracted with specific conferences but will host playoff games every few years as part of the rotation.
The selection committee will decide which 4 teams get to play in the 2 playoff bowls and will fill in the "at-large" spots in the other 4 bowls. Each year, they will select the top G5 team (AAC, C-USA, MAC, Sun Belt, MWC) to fill in one of these at-large spots.
Thanks for that very informative post!
So the bottom 3, could those spots could easily be swiped by one of the P5 b!tching they deserve it over a G5?
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10-27-2013 10:11 AM |
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 10:11 AM)nosurf2day Wrote: (10-27-2013 10:01 AM)Inigo Wrote: Basic structure of new system:
There are 6 bowls involved in the new playoff system which is replacing the BCS. Each year, 2 of these bowls will host the semifinals of the playoffs, and the other 4 will just be normal bowl games (analogous to the current "BCS Bowls").
The championship game will not come from these 6 bowls. It will be selected for each year from cities who submit bids to host it (like the Super Bowl or NCAA Final Four).
Here are the 6 bowls involved including their contracted match-ups when those bowls aren't hosting playoff games:
Rose Bowl — Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl — SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl — ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Fiesta Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Chick-fil-A Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
The top 3 bowls in the list are called "Contract Bowls" because they are contracted with specific conferences. In years where one of the contract bowls hosts the the semifinals, its contracted teams will get to play in one of the host bowls.
The bottom 3 bowls are called "Host Bowls" because they are not contracted with specific conferences but will host playoff games every few years as part of the rotation.
The selection committee will decide which 4 teams get to play in the 2 playoff bowls and will fill in the "at-large" spots in the other 4 bowls. Each year, they will select the top G5 team (AAC, C-USA, MAC, Sun Belt, MWC) to fill in one of these at-large spots.
Thanks for that very informative post!
So the bottom 3, could those spots could easily be swiped by one of the P5 b!tching they deserve it over a G5?
One G5 team is guaranteed to be in this system every year.
Unlike the current BCS system where a non-AQ team has to finish in the top 12 (or top 16 and ahead of an AQ champion) to make a BCS Bowl, the new system will have 1 G5 participant guaranteed every season even if the top one is ranked #30 or something.
Since 2 of the 6 bowls will be Playoff games instead of Bowls each year, that leaves 4 of the bowls as regular bowl games.
4 bowls means 8 teams playing. With 6 of those 8 bowl slots already contracted out, that essentially means that other than the 4 teams selected for the playoffs there is only going to be an opening for one at-large and the one G5 participant every year in this new bowl system.
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2013 10:29 AM by Inigo.)
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 10:16 AM)Inigo Wrote: (10-27-2013 10:11 AM)nosurf2day Wrote: (10-27-2013 10:01 AM)Inigo Wrote: Basic structure of new system:
There are 6 bowls involved in the new playoff system which is replacing the BCS. Each year, 2 of these bowls will host the semifinals of the playoffs, and the other 4 will just be normal bowl games (analogous to the current "BCS Bowls").
The championship game will not come from these 6 bowls. It will be selected for each year from cities who submit bids to host it (like the Super Bowl or NCAA Final Four).
Here are the 6 bowls involved including their contracted match-ups when those bowls aren't hosting playoff games:
Rose Bowl — Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl — SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl — ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Fiesta Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Chick-fil-A Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
The top 3 bowls in the list are called "Contract Bowls" because they are contracted with specific conferences. In years where one of the contract bowls hosts the the semifinals, its contracted teams will get to play in one of the host bowls.
The bottom 3 bowls are called "Host Bowls" because they are not contracted with specific conferences but will host playoff games every few years as part of the rotation.
The selection committee will decide which 4 teams get to play in the 2 playoff bowls and will fill in the "at-large" spots in the other 4 bowls. Each year, they will select the top G5 team (AAC, C-USA, MAC, Sun Belt, MWC) to fill in one of these at-large spots.
Thanks for that very informative post!
So the bottom 3, could those spots could easily be swiped by one of the P5 b!tching they deserve it over a G5?
One G5 team is guaranteed to be in this system every year.
Unlike the current BCS system where a non-AQ team has to finish in the top 12 (or top 16 and ahead of an AQ champion) to make a BCS Bowl, the new system will have 1 G5 participant guaranteed every season even if the top one is ranked #30 or something.
Since 2 of the 6 bowls will be Playoff games instead of Bowls each year, that leaves 4 of the bowls as regular bowl games.
4 bowls means 8 teams playing. With 6 of those 8 bowl slots already contracted out, that essentially means there is only going to be an opening for one at-large and the one G5 participant every year in this new bowl system.
Yes, important point. I forgot about the one G5 school that's invited. With Fresno and NIU, it might be tough.
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10-27-2013 10:26 AM |
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RE: New Playoff System
That selection should come from the AAC 4 out of every 5 years. If you look at who UH is scheduling OOC (and i suppose the rest of us) then there's no way a MWC or MAC program should be able to swipe it. I think that one of our programs end up in the top 15-17 no matter what, with potential for 1-15 sometimes. It's all about how many teams schedule well OOC.
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10-27-2013 10:51 AM |
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RE: New Playoff System
What they're going to find is that this playoff structure will have to expand based on interest. For example, not many people are going to care less about a team because they were ranked #5 and #6 vs. #3 or #4 and didn't make the playoffs. You're going to find a lot of people wondering what would have happened after the top teams win their non-playoff bowl game, and before you know it, everyone is clamoring for a 6 team playoff.
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RE: New Playoff System
I think the Playoffs will be modified with the G5 in mind..sort of how it is now with the Access bowl being with 1 only invited g5.
The playoff will involve the p5, and 2 at larges...number #8 will be the highest rated champion of G5.
That's the only way i see us getting involved in it
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10-27-2013 12:18 PM |
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 12:18 PM)chrisiskingx Wrote: I think the Playoffs will be modified with the G5 in mind..sort of how it is now with the Access bowl being with 1 only invited g5.
The playoff will involve the p5, and 2 at larges...number #8 will be the highest rated champion of G5.
That's the only way i see us getting involved in it
With the G5 in mind? No. With the G5 benefiting as a byproduct? Yes. Nobody is going to stick up for the G5.
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 08:45 AM)nosurf2day Wrote: I am not one of those people that knows everything about football or spends hours on the internet roaming forums.
You must be one of those losers who has a life away from the internet. Slacker.
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 10:01 AM)Inigo Wrote: Basic structure of new system:
There are 6 bowls involved in the new playoff system which is replacing the BCS. Each year, 2 of these bowls will host the semifinals of the playoffs, and the other 4 will just be normal bowl games (analogous to the current "BCS Bowls").
The championship game will not come from these 6 bowls. It will be selected for each year from cities who submit bids to host it (like the Super Bowl or NCAA Final Four).
Here are the 6 bowls involved including their contracted match-ups when those bowls aren't hosting playoff games:
Rose Bowl — Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl — SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl — ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Fiesta Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Chick-fil-A Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
The top 3 bowls in the list are called "Contract Bowls" because they are contracted with specific conferences. In years where one of the contract bowls hosts the the semifinals, its contracted teams will get to play in one of the host bowls.
The bottom 3 bowls are called "Host Bowls" because they are not contracted with specific conferences but will host playoff games every few years as part of the rotation.
The selection committee will decide which 4 teams get to play in the 2 playoff bowls and will fill in the "at-large" spots in the other 4 bowls. Each year, they will select the top G5 team (AAC, C-USA, MAC, Sun Belt, MWC) to fill in one of these at-large spots.
Correction: Chick-fil A "Peach" Bowl
Each of the so-called "BCS" bowls must have a signature name (not just a corporate sponsor). Thus, the marketing name of Peach was reintroduced.
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RE: New Playoff System
(10-27-2013 12:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: (10-27-2013 08:45 AM)nosurf2day Wrote: I am not one of those people that knows everything about football or spends hours on the internet roaming forums.
You must be one of those losers who has a life away from the internet. Slacker.
LOL yep the military calls my name every day from 0630-1800 daily. Unless I find time to get away and sneak a peak on the computer while at work.
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