to all the newbies kicking USF and UC...we are down right now. Both programs would have beaten most all of you any given year in the past six or seven years and there isn't a one of you would would have beaten UC under BK. The Bulls climbed to as high as #2 and has beaten Notre Dame, and a host of other big time P5 schools. Cincy has been ranked in the top 25 most of the past 6 or 7 years and as high as #3 or 4 and we have two bcs bowls and four Big East titles and won ten games five of the last six years. USF and UC have won on the road in the old Big East at places like Morgantown, RU, UofL, and etc when those teams were good and ranked. When any of you approach any of this come talk to me. Show some respect.

Couldn't agree more grad07, but so many of our fans call that "settling for Mediocrity". Attendance is probably why we schedule the way we did this year. But I think UNT and UTSA might bring quite a few fans and we certainly would have a good shot at winning those. I love scheduling TCU and Baylor since they are similar type private schools. And a 4-0 mediocre scheduled Houston looks a heck of a lot better than a 1-4 SMU. BTW, we did hold our own against Tech and TCU for three quarters, not good enough to finish though.

(10-07-2013 12:44 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 11:48 AM)msu65 Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 10:55 AM)SMUfrat Wrote:  1. Ecu is still looking solid.
2. Tulsa is turning out to be a complete dud.
3. Tulane is better than expected.

Now for current AAC

1. Cincinnati is not the "cream of the crop" in fact, the suck... And they need to get over themselves a bit because they won't be finishing in the top 3...

2. SMU is not "bad / embarrassing" somehow there is still a fight in the team with a dead coach. The right coach can set this team alive.

3. USF - most people in the poll said they are most likely to go winless... Wrong wrong wrong

4. Memphis seems competitive. Let's see them do better.

5. What makes the AAC look bad as a conference is our OOC games. We need to win 3\4 of those. That's what sets us apart from the G4

That is all

You kidding? Memphis man handled UCF this weekend. Look at the stats, look at the game, anyway you want, Memphis was the superior team in every aspect.

Umm, I think he was complementing Memphis. But if helps, we can submit a petition to the NCAA to have Memphis record changed from 1-3 to 1-2-1 (moral victory). You guys have played well in all 3 of your losses, but the end result is that they were losses.

He's right, you're pulling an insult way out from left field when there's nothing to find.

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  to all the newbies kicking USF and UC...we are down right now. Both programs would have beaten most all of you any given year in the past six or seven years and there isn't a one of you would would have beaten UC under BK. The Bulls climbed to as high as #2 and has beaten Notre Dame, and a host of other big time P5 schools. Cincy has been ranked in the top 25 most of the past 6 or 7 years and as high as #3 or 4 and we have two bcs bowls and four Big East titles and won ten games five of the last six years. USF and UC have won on the road in the old Big East at places like Morgantown, RU, UofL, and etc when those teams were good and ranked. When any of you approach any of this come talk to me. Show some respect.

Please. UC and USF fans talked a whole lot of Ishh when the new football members were invited. We all remember those threads.

And I can tell you as a Tulane fan that history doesn't mean a damn thing, its about what you've done lately. And fortunes change. That's what everyone was trying to tell you 6 months ago.

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  to all the newbies kicking USF and UC...we are down right now.

I kick you because you're a Bearcat, I need no other excuse, just like you kick me because I'm a Tiger.

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  to all the newbies kicking USF and UC...we are down right now. Both programs would have beaten most all of you any given year in the past six or seven years and there isn't a one of you would would have beaten UC under BK.

I Highly doubt 5-7 USF would have beaten UH in 2011. Would have been a good game between UH and CU that year, but UH did finish ranked higher.

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The Bulls climbed to as high as #2 and has beaten Notre Dame, and a host of other big time P5 schools.

And then collapsed to go 9-4 and finishing unranked. No offense, USF has NEVER finished ranked at the FBS level. UH has beaten 4 teams that were ranked when we played them since that 2007 USF season including a #5 team on the road. UH has also had 9 and 13 win seasons since that year.

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Cincy has been ranked in the top 25 most of the past 6 or 7 years and as high as #3 or 4 and we have two bcs bowls and four Big East titles and won ten games five of the last six years.

UH has been ranked in part of several seasons recently and finished ranked once. We were ranked as high as #7 at one point in 2011. Try that in a non-AQ conference. Playing in a non-AQ conference, going 13-1, beating a Pac10 team, beating a ranked Big10 team in a
bowl, and only losing to a top 20 team is only good enough for an 18th spot.

(01-16-1970 06:39 PM)Bearcats#1
098' Wrote:  USF and UC have won on the road in the old Big East at places like Morgantown, RU, UofL, and etc when those teams were good and ranked. When any of you approach any of this come talk to me. Show some respect.

Is beating a #5 Okie State team on the road ok to talk to you about? How about a #22 ranked Penn State? A 9-4 Texas Tech team?

And BTW: UH is 4-0 right now. Shouldn't that respect go both ways? I have no problem giving props to UC with what they've done recently. Even giving some props to USF. But if those schools deserve respect, so does UH.

Screw the conference. I will always put my alma mater over this conference. Can't wait to play the rest of you guys...especially Houston.

(10-07-2013 04:27 PM)NTXCoog Wrote:  Shouldn't that respect go both ways? I have no problem giving props to UC with what they've done recently. Even giving some props to USF. But if those schools deserve respect, so does UH.

And I should add, UCF deserves props too. They finished ranked in 2010, won 2 CUSA titles since 2007, and has some nice AQ and OOC wins.

(10-06-2013 06:07 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 01:39 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 01:20 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 11:05 AM)SMUfrat Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 10:56 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  SMU's crowd was sure embarrassing. Maybe 10k there if you are generous.

Memphis is stepping up, good crowd too.

Yeah. You won't see many die hard, 11am fans, especially when it's family weekend and their parents are there. Just the reality. SMU fans will show when convenient... Unfortunately

It didn't help that the family weekend brochure said the game would be at 7 PM

http://smu.edu/sf/family%20weekend/FW%20...%20res.pdf

Oh no!!!

TV Network changed the start time of the game 12 days out (Sept 23rd) and none of the visiting families knew about it?

Heck...for UCF's "Parents/Family Weekend" game which was the South Carolina game...TV time wasn't decided till just 6 days before the game...yet all of those that bought those Parents/Family Weekend tix months ago somehow much of found some magical info on the world wide web and they all showed up at the right time of Noon.

Most of our parents are executives from out of state who take the info they are given for granted because they have more important things to take up the time. It is what it is.

Good lord--really you just said that!!! That is "why" smu will never have big crowds as their fans are pretentious aholes who don't welcome anyone who is not a rich executive. The whole campus thinks and acts as this poster. Even in their glory cheating years, they struggled to sell out games--not all of them, but most of them.

(10-06-2013 06:07 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 01:39 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 01:20 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 11:05 AM)SMUfrat Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 10:56 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  SMU's crowd was sure embarrassing. Maybe 10k there if you are generous.

Memphis is stepping up, good crowd too.

Yeah. You won't see many die hard, 11am fans, especially when it's family weekend and their parents are there. Just the reality. SMU fans will show when convenient... Unfortunately

It didn't help that the family weekend brochure said the game would be at 7 PM

http://smu.edu/sf/family%20weekend/FW%20...%20res.pdf

Oh no!!!

TV Network changed the start time of the game 12 days out (Sept 23rd) and none of the visiting families knew about it?

Heck...for UCF's "Parents/Family Weekend" game which was the South Carolina game...TV time wasn't decided till just 6 days before the game...yet all of those that bought those Parents/Family Weekend tix months ago somehow much of found some magical info on the world wide web and they all showed up at the right time of Noon.

Most of our parents are executives from out of state who take the info they are given for granted because they have more important things to take up the time.

That's strange...as the execs we deal with are directly the opposite...as they can check, verify, and check again if they like because they are connected to the world...and can find info out in a matter of secs.

Guess those not connected to the world send their kids to SMU...thanks for clarifying that.

(10-07-2013 05:03 PM)YA! Wrote:  Even in their glory cheating years, they struggled to sell out games--not all of them, but most of them.

Be fair... SMU played in Texas Stadium in those years. Even in these recent glory years of TCU, how often do you think TCU would have sold out a 65,000 seat stadium?

I consider myself a high level exec and I made it to the game with another high-level exec --- not a problem. And we came in from DC!

Bottom line is this: If you want to see football, you will make it to the game. If you don't, you won't.

Time for SMU alums to stop making excuses for our piss-poor attendance. We need to make it "cool" to attend an SMU game. The only way to do that is to win at a high level. Period. Anything else won't get you a sniff in Dallas.

(10-07-2013 04:17 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  to all the newbies kicking USF and UC...we are down right now.

I kick you because you're a Bearcat, I need no other excuse, just like you kick me because I'm a Tiger.

lol...you guys just may kick our sorry butts this year in football....I certainly wouldn't be surprised at this point!

Like SMU Parents care about their entitled kids.

pfffffffff

UC fans -

Do any of you guys think the Tubberville situation might turn into a June situation?

UC had success with up and coming hungry coaches.

Everyone wants to find a Chris Peterson or Gary Patterson who will stick around. If you strike fire and the right guy stays more power to you. It seems like UC and to a lesser extent TU have fallen into the lets get a guy who isnt going anywhere model.

Retreads or "dream job" guys always worry me.

(10-08-2013 06:07 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Like SMU Parents care about their entitled kids.

pfffffffff

Come on. Look at Craig James and how involved he has been with his kid.

(10-08-2013 08:35 PM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 06:07 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Like SMU Parents care about their entitled kids.

pfffffffff

Come on. Look at Craig James and how involved he has been with his kid.

He let Adam bury 3 of the 5 hookers he killed

(10-08-2013 06:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  UC fans -

Do any of you guys think the Tubberville situation might turn into a June situation?

UC had success with up and coming hungry coaches.

Everyone wants to find a Chris Peterson or Gary Patterson who will stick around. If you strike fire and the right guy stays more power to you. It seems like UC and to a lesser extent TU have fallen into the lets get a guy who isnt going anywhere model.

Retreads or "dream job" guys always worry me.

Like it or not June is gone after this year. Raplh says call him.

(10-08-2013 06:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  UC fans -

Do any of you guys think the Tubberville situation might turn into a June situation?

UC had success with up and coming hungry coaches.

Everyone wants to find a Chris Peterson or Gary Patterson who will stick around. If you strike fire and the right guy stays more power to you. It seems like UC and to a lesser extent TU have fallen into the lets get a guy who isnt going anywhere model.

Retreads or "dream job" guys always worry me.

I think many were excited to have CTT (i was) regardless of the multiple warnings others gave us about him (mostly Texas Tech fans that I wrote off as sour grapes). The man does have a track record of winning, and that in the SEC but his time at Texas Tech was mediocre at best. I have been bashing him a lot the past couple weeks (14 pt win vs MiamiOH, a team we have been destroying and now a loss to a bad usf team) but I truly don't think it's time to say fire the man...fact is he's five games into his career here and runs a completly different offense than we are used to. UC has been a spread since BK (it carried on through with Jones who ran a more west coast spread, but spread none the less). CTT wants to run a typical SEC power pro set and it just isn't working. To make things worse, Eddie Gran, who came from Florida State and was also seen as a coup for the program is in reality a first time OC and appears is struggling to the point people are saying he is in over his head.

Bottom line, we are going through a coaching transition and that usually means a step backward. I think most of us assumed with the level of talent on the team and the veteran coach like CTT coming in here, a proven winner in his past, that our transition would be smooth. Throw in our starting qb gone for the year, death on the team with another in ICU, and our top two WR's hurt and not playing along with new playbook and new schemes and there you have a 3-2 UC team that has most of us mad right now because we have won 10 games five of the past six years and are one of the winningest programs in the nation during that time.

I think the biggest disappointment for me is the seeming inability of the current coaching staff to make adjustments to the players they inherited and instead the seeming rigid demand for these players to play in a system that they were not recruited to. EVERY new coaching staff is hand-cuffed in that they have to use the players that their predecessors recruited. The question is HOW they use those players until they can get "their type" of recruits in.

I am not so much worried about a "June Jones" situation as much as I am worried about a "Steve Kragthorpe" situation. Krags came in and began running off Petrino's players off the team. We have seen this begin happening with a large number of players leave the Bearcats between January of last year and the current moment. (We just had another player leave in the last couple of days...) Kragthorpe came in and switched systems and then made all sorts of excuses why it wasn't working and insisting that he was "doing it the right way." Likewise the excuses have started flowing fast and are startlingly similar to what we heard at Louisville..."The team isn't as talented or deep as everyone thought." "The players aren't motivated..." Within a season, Louisville went from recruiting 4* players to 2* players. Likewise, our recruiting class is suddenly losing out on the mid-to-high rated talent we had seen committing to UC.

The only question, in my mind, is when TT will resort to putting mouse-traps into players lockers and refusing to let the players step on the sidelines of the field in practice.

Oh, the other thing is that Louisville had the resources to get rid of Krags and hire Strong. I see little-to-no chance of that happening at UC. We're boned.