(09-15-2013 10:17 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(09-15-2013 07:54 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 09:33 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 05:59 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 02:58 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No we deserved it, if you have 7 turnovers in one game and 5 out 6 plays you turn the ball over you should be in BOttom 10.....Honestly we should have been Number 1....You do realize this is a weekly thing? Also this guy picked us to upset UT, so I am sure he was a little pissed off too...

Its been awhile since we have been in Bottom 10, I will say that

Nah, I can't agree with that. There are plenty of winless teams with no prospects of climbing out of the cellar. WKU might win the prize for the worst Quarter/Half of football for the week, but with an opening win over Kentucky, I don't see making the bottom 10.

Posters really do not get this Bottom 10 thing do they? haha...They will learn soon enough some of the newbies..

So, why don't you explain it to us poor unsophisticated newbies? My post was after two games when WKU was 1-1. If the Bottom 10 is for a one week performance, then sure. If the bottom 10 is cumulative then no way. What is it with WKU fans? Two weeks ago you were going to set the world on fire with your new coach. Now you're arguing for the priveledge of being in the Bottom 10 list. I "get" the list. I just don't "get" that attitude.

Do you really believe that WKU is one of the 10 worst programs in FBS, or are you just wallowing in self pitty?

The list does not denote the worst teams in the FBS. That is what you are not getting.

OK then. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Honestly, I've never paid much attention to the Bottom 10 rankings. Based on the times I've looked at it, it seems to approximate a list of very bad teams. On second look, I guess I do see a couple who wouldn't belong on that type of list. It appears to be this columnist's opportunity to lampoon whichever team he wants to abuse for whatever particular reason suits him.

(09-15-2013 11:22 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(09-15-2013 10:17 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(09-15-2013 07:54 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 09:33 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 05:59 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  Nah, I can't agree with that. There are plenty of winless teams with no prospects of climbing out of the cellar. WKU might win the prize for the worst Quarter/Half of football for the week, but with an opening win over Kentucky, I don't see making the bottom 10.

Posters really do not get this Bottom 10 thing do they? haha...They will learn soon enough some of the newbies..

So, why don't you explain it to us poor unsophisticated newbies? My post was after two games when WKU was 1-1. If the Bottom 10 is for a one week performance, then sure. If the bottom 10 is cumulative then no way. What is it with WKU fans? Two weeks ago you were going to set the world on fire with your new coach. Now you're arguing for the priveledge of being in the Bottom 10 list. I "get" the list. I just don't "get" that attitude.

Do you really believe that WKU is one of the 10 worst programs in FBS, or are you just wallowing in self pitty?

The list does not denote the worst teams in the FBS. That is what you are not getting.

OK then. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Honestly, I've never paid much attention to the Bottom 10 rankings. Based on the times I've looked at it, it seems to approximate a list of very bad teams. On second look, I guess I do see a couple who wouldn't belong on that type of list. It appears to be this columnist's opportunity to lampoon whichever team he wants to abuse for whatever particular reason suits him.

Sheesh easy man, I was explaining how it worked...ESPN is not saying we are necessarily in the "Bottom 10" of the entire FBS, its mostly based on what you do week before or if you are just plain horrible, than you stay on list....I was not knocking you or anything, I was explaining to the newbies how it works since most do not seem to "get it". Not just you but several posters from "new schools". WKU will probably be back on that list this week after Saturday's performance....And no one is wanting to be the on that list regardless of one mans opinions who writes it every week...Its not a good list to be on although it has no credibility what so ever, its just a article that is supposed to be entertaining and funny to some I suppose....To me its not, but to some it may be...

(09-10-2013 10:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I will go against many of you in this thread, but I don't feel sorry for USM at all. They have tried hard to keep USA down out of fear. When CUSA was first formed they opposed USA being a member. Louisville wanted USA in so they lobbied and got enough votes for USA to join, but our then president didn't have to foresight to accept. That set our potential football program back at least a decade. Since that point any time conference realignment pops up they have vehemently opposed USA (and will in the future), and being a founding member they will pull in support from other members. Like I said in another thread, if there were ever a time the roles were reversed it would be fun to "block" them. And another thing, they have a long history of recruiting Mobile for football players. If they don't want to share a league with USA I say USA should stop playing them at all. We have already hurt their recruiting and they need Mobile for exposure more than we need them. They are already trying to do things like having neutral site baseball games in Mobile against opponents like Auburn. I guess our 56-29 all-time winning record over them in baseball stings.

USM TTB.

You have not hurt the recruiting of southern miss, not now nor will you ever. Not for athletes or students. Half my sons fraternity are from the gulf shores area.
There is NO truth to you having the votes to get in cusa. You were never in discussions. I was told that by a former AD and a current head coach who was at another cusa school at the time.

We don't fear you because there is nothing to fear.

But think about this for a minute. usa is constantly trying to cross the state line and offer classes in Mississippi. Recently the state stepped in and blocked you from leasing space at the Jackson county campus of mgccc. Do you really think we would do anything to help you at this point? You have brought the block on yourselves.

Yea we are likely gonna be 0-4 in a week. I expected 1-3 at best with the horrible hire a few boosters forced on us a year ago. But this ship will be placed in the right direction soon and little ole south gump will never be a threat to us on or off the field. You can only dream success such as we have had in the past.

By the way, before you point the finger at us for "holding you down" don't forget your sisters to the north in Birmingham. They are more against your inclusion that we are.

(09-16-2013 07:52 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I will go against many of you in this thread, but I don't feel sorry for USM at all. They have tried hard to keep USA down out of fear. When CUSA was first formed they opposed USA being a member. Louisville wanted USA in so they lobbied and got enough votes for USA to join, but our then president didn't have to foresight to accept. That set our potential football program back at least a decade. Since that point any time conference realignment pops up they have vehemently opposed USA (and will in the future), and being a founding member they will pull in support from other members. Like I said in another thread, if there were ever a time the roles were reversed it would be fun to "block" them. And another thing, they have a long history of recruiting Mobile for football players. If they don't want to share a league with USA I say USA should stop playing them at all. We have already hurt their recruiting and they need Mobile for exposure more than we need them. They are already trying to do things like having neutral site baseball games in Mobile against opponents like Auburn. I guess our 56-29 all-time winning record over them in baseball stings.

USM TTB.

You have not hurt the recruiting of southern miss, not now nor will you ever. Not for athletes or students. Half my sons fraternity are from the gulf shores area.
There is NO truth to you having the votes to get in cusa. You were never in discussions. I was told that by a former AD and a current head coach who was at another cusa school at the time.

We don't fear you because there is nothing to fear.

But think about this for a minute. usa is constantly trying to cross the state line and offer classes in Mississippi. Recently the state stepped in and blocked you from leasing space at the Jackson county campus of mgccc. Do you really think we would do anything to help you at this point? You have brought the block on yourselves.

Yea we are likely gonna be 0-4 in a week. I expected 1-3 at best with the horrible hire a few boosters forced on us a year ago. But this ship will be placed in the right direction soon and little ole south gump will never be a threat to us on or off the field. You can only dream success such as we have had in the past.

By the way, before you point the finger at us for "holding you down" don't forget your sisters to the north in Birmingham. They are more against your inclusion that we are.

No...that's Ellis Johnson's job...thank you very much.

my gut feeling is that south al will significantly hurt both usm and troy in recruiting.

they'll all be after a lot of the same kids....this after bammer and auburn get their picks of course. i expect south al to be a desirable destination for a lot of panhandle kids as well.

(09-16-2013 07:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 07:52 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I will go against many of you in this thread, but I don't feel sorry for USM at all. They have tried hard to keep USA down out of fear. When CUSA was first formed they opposed USA being a member. Louisville wanted USA in so they lobbied and got enough votes for USA to join, but our then president didn't have to foresight to accept. That set our potential football program back at least a decade. Since that point any time conference realignment pops up they have vehemently opposed USA (and will in the future), and being a founding member they will pull in support from other members. Like I said in another thread, if there were ever a time the roles were reversed it would be fun to "block" them. And another thing, they have a long history of recruiting Mobile for football players. If they don't want to share a league with USA I say USA should stop playing them at all. We have already hurt their recruiting and they need Mobile for exposure more than we need them. They are already trying to do things like having neutral site baseball games in Mobile against opponents like Auburn. I guess our 56-29 all-time winning record over them in baseball stings.

USM TTB.

You have not hurt the recruiting of southern miss, not now nor will you ever. Not for athletes or students. Half my sons fraternity are from the gulf shores area.
There is NO truth to you having the votes to get in cusa. You were never in discussions. I was told that by a former AD and a current head coach who was at another cusa school at the time.

We don't fear you because there is nothing to fear.

But think about this for a minute. usa is constantly trying to cross the state line and offer classes in Mississippi. Recently the state stepped in and blocked you from leasing space at the Jackson county campus of mgccc. Do you really think we would do anything to help you at this point? You have brought the block on yourselves.

Yea we are likely gonna be 0-4 in a week. I expected 1-3 at best with the horrible hire a few boosters forced on us a year ago. But this ship will be placed in the right direction soon and little ole south gump will never be a threat to us on or off the field. You can only dream success such as we have had in the past.

By the way, before you point the finger at us for "holding you down" don't forget your sisters to the north in Birmingham. They are more against your inclusion that we are.

No...that's Ellis Johnson's job...thank you very much.

You mean our old hc who wore a headset with NO batteries? Yea he did his best on it. AKA Pappy Buttermilk

(09-16-2013 08:13 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  my gut feeling is that south al will significantly hurt both usm and troy in recruiting.

they'll all be after a lot of the same kids....this after bammer and auburn get their picks of course. i expect south al to be a desirable destination for a lot of panhandle kids as well.

You can put stAte on that list too. We've got 16 players - 7 starters and 2 X-Men from Alabama.

(09-16-2013 08:13 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  my gut feeling is that south al will significantly hurt both usm and troy in recruiting.

they'll all be after a lot of the same kids....this after bammer and auburn get their picks of course. i expect south al to be a desirable destination for a lot of panhandle kids as well.

If Troy can get back on track then tradition will hold its own.....but you are right....Troy the city (town) does not attract a bunch of prospects but Mobile might.....if we can get on track I think we hold them off but alot of that depends on post coach years etc.

(09-16-2013 07:52 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I will go against many of you in this thread, but I don't feel sorry for USM at all. They have tried hard to keep USA down out of fear. When CUSA was first formed they opposed USA being a member. Louisville wanted USA in so they lobbied and got enough votes for USA to join, but our then president didn't have to foresight to accept. That set our potential football program back at least a decade. Since that point any time conference realignment pops up they have vehemently opposed USA (and will in the future), and being a founding member they will pull in support from other members. Like I said in another thread, if there were ever a time the roles were reversed it would be fun to "block" them. And another thing, they have a long history of recruiting Mobile for football players. If they don't want to share a league with USA I say USA should stop playing them at all. We have already hurt their recruiting and they need Mobile for exposure more than we need them. They are already trying to do things like having neutral site baseball games in Mobile against opponents like Auburn. I guess our 56-29 all-time winning record over them in baseball stings.

USM TTB.

You have not hurt the recruiting of southern miss, not now nor will you ever. Not for athletes or students. Half my sons fraternity are from the gulf shores area.
There is NO truth to you having the votes to get in cusa. You were never in discussions. I was told that by a former AD and a current head coach who was at another cusa school at the time.

We don't fear you because there is nothing to fear.

But think about this for a minute. usa is constantly trying to cross the state line and offer classes in Mississippi. Recently the state stepped in and blocked you from leasing space at the Jackson county campus of mgccc. Do you really think we would do anything to help you at this point? You have brought the block on yourselves.

Yea we are likely gonna be 0-4 in a week. I expected 1-3 at best with the horrible hire a few boosters forced on us a year ago. But this ship will be placed in the right direction soon and little ole south gump will never be a threat to us on or off the field. You can only dream success such as we have had in the past.

By the way, before you point the finger at us for "holding you down" don't forget your sisters to the north in Birmingham. They are more against your inclusion that we are.

we've had players chose USA over USM. TTB.

(09-16-2013 07:52 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I will go against many of you in this thread, but I don't feel sorry for USM at all. They have tried hard to keep USA down out of fear. When CUSA was first formed they opposed USA being a member. Louisville wanted USA in so they lobbied and got enough votes for USA to join, but our then president didn't have to foresight to accept. That set our potential football program back at least a decade. Since that point any time conference realignment pops up they have vehemently opposed USA (and will in the future), and being a founding member they will pull in support from other members. Like I said in another thread, if there were ever a time the roles were reversed it would be fun to "block" them. And another thing, they have a long history of recruiting Mobile for football players. If they don't want to share a league with USA I say USA should stop playing them at all. We have already hurt their recruiting and they need Mobile for exposure more than we need them. They are already trying to do things like having neutral site baseball games in Mobile against opponents like Auburn. I guess our 56-29 all-time winning record over them in baseball stings.

USM TTB.

You have not hurt the recruiting of southern miss, not now nor will you ever. Not for athletes or students. Half my sons fraternity are from the gulf shores area.
There is NO truth to you having the votes to get in cusa. You were never in discussions. I was told that by a former AD and a current head coach who was at another cusa school at the time.

We don't fear you because there is nothing to fear.

But think about this for a minute. usa is constantly trying to cross the state line and offer classes in Mississippi. Recently the state stepped in and blocked you from leasing space at the Jackson county campus of mgccc. Do you really think we would do anything to help you at this point? You have brought the block on yourselves.

Yea we are likely gonna be 0-4 in a week. I expected 1-3 at best with the horrible hire a few boosters forced on us a year ago. But this ship will be placed in the right direction soon and little ole south gump will never be a threat to us on or off the field. You can only dream success such as we have had in the past.

By the way, before you point the finger at us for "holding you down" don't forget your sisters to the north in Birmingham. They are more against your inclusion that we are.

Total number of football recruits from Mobile-Pensacola-Biloxi area:

Recruiting years 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 (four years before USA played football):
USM - 16

Recruiting years 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 (four years after USA started playing football):
USM - 5

(09-10-2013 02:40 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 01:30 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  1. USM
2. Georgia State
3. Idaho
7. F_U
9. WKU

Waiting list:
ASU's fashion faux pas
Memphis
NMSU
UAB

We had a bad week but there is no way we should be in the bottom ten. That's a joke.

Don't give it a thought. Y'all being in is a slap on us

(09-16-2013 12:15 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(09-15-2013 11:22 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(09-15-2013 10:17 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(09-15-2013 07:54 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 09:33 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Posters really do not get this Bottom 10 thing do they? haha...They will learn soon enough some of the newbies..

So, why don't you explain it to us poor unsophisticated newbies? My post was after two games when WKU was 1-1. If the Bottom 10 is for a one week performance, then sure. If the bottom 10 is cumulative then no way. What is it with WKU fans? Two weeks ago you were going to set the world on fire with your new coach. Now you're arguing for the priveledge of being in the Bottom 10 list. I "get" the list. I just don't "get" that attitude.

Do you really believe that WKU is one of the 10 worst programs in FBS, or are you just wallowing in self pitty?

The list does not denote the worst teams in the FBS. That is what you are not getting.

OK then. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Honestly, I've never paid much attention to the Bottom 10 rankings. Based on the times I've looked at it, it seems to approximate a list of very bad teams. On second look, I guess I do see a couple who wouldn't belong on that type of list. It appears to be this columnist's opportunity to lampoon whichever team he wants to abuse for whatever particular reason suits him.

Sheesh easy man, I was explaining how it worked...ESPN is not saying we are necessarily in the "Bottom 10" of the entire FBS, its mostly based on what you do week before or if you are just plain horrible, than you stay on list....I was not knocking you or anything, I was explaining to the newbies how it works since most do not seem to "get it". Not just you but several posters from "new schools". WKU will probably be back on that list this week after Saturday's performance....And no one is wanting to be the on that list regardless of one mans opinions who writes it every week...Its not a good list to be on although it has no credibility what so ever, its just a article that is supposed to be entertaining and funny to some I suppose....To me its not, but to some it may be...

No problem. Reading my reply now, all I can say it that I must have had a bad day. I'm not usually sensitive (according to my wife at least). The fact is that your original comment was correct. I didn't "get it". I had read the listing occassionally but never enough to pay attention to the context.

(09-17-2013 01:14 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 07:52 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I will go against many of you in this thread, but I don't feel sorry for USM at all. They have tried hard to keep USA down out of fear. When CUSA was first formed they opposed USA being a member. Louisville wanted USA in so they lobbied and got enough votes for USA to join, but our then president didn't have to foresight to accept. That set our potential football program back at least a decade. Since that point any time conference realignment pops up they have vehemently opposed USA (and will in the future), and being a founding member they will pull in support from other members. Like I said in another thread, if there were ever a time the roles were reversed it would be fun to "block" them. And another thing, they have a long history of recruiting Mobile for football players. If they don't want to share a league with USA I say USA should stop playing them at all. We have already hurt their recruiting and they need Mobile for exposure more than we need them. They are already trying to do things like having neutral site baseball games in Mobile against opponents like Auburn. I guess our 56-29 all-time winning record over them in baseball stings.

USM TTB.

You have not hurt the recruiting of southern miss, not now nor will you ever. Not for athletes or students. Half my sons fraternity are from the gulf shores area.
There is NO truth to you having the votes to get in cusa. You were never in discussions. I was told that by a former AD and a current head coach who was at another cusa school at the time.

We don't fear you because there is nothing to fear.

But think about this for a minute. usa is constantly trying to cross the state line and offer classes in Mississippi. Recently the state stepped in and blocked you from leasing space at the Jackson county campus of mgccc. Do you really think we would do anything to help you at this point? You have brought the block on yourselves.

Yea we are likely gonna be 0-4 in a week. I expected 1-3 at best with the horrible hire a few boosters forced on us a year ago. But this ship will be placed in the right direction soon and little ole south gump will never be a threat to us on or off the field. You can only dream success such as we have had in the past.

By the way, before you point the finger at us for "holding you down" don't forget your sisters to the north in Birmingham. They are more against your inclusion that we are.

Total number of football recruits from Mobile-Pensacola-Biloxi area:

Recruiting years 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 (four years before USA played football):
USM - 16

Recruiting years 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 (four years after USA started playing football):
USM - 5

Put an asterisk by those numbers and state the ones who attended an jr college or a non d 1 school first. I see a bunch on your roster. For some reason you think your hurting us in Biloxi? An area were the majority of the hs coaches graduated from Southern miss. For the record the number of players from that area is greatly lower than it was before Katrina for some reason. The coast 6a region Is the weakest 6a region in Mississippi.
BUT you have a grand total of 1 player from the gulf coast. A wr from Gulfport. You have 1 player from Petal that according to your sid with such a vivid imagination, he chose south over Southern Miss?? Melvin Meggs was not offered by any other 4 year school. He is at south strictly because he was friends with the son of Mitch Rodrique.
You don't build a long term program with a large number of juco players. The few up here were signed and placed at a juco for 2 years. And the only reason they are placed is that they don't qualify out of high school. And that makes up the majority of those numbers your trying to pass off to show your dramatic rise and our decline.

our presence is hurting you. to deny this is sheer blindness.


you go on to state our name wasn't even brought up in discussions, yet you say how we were blocked for putting classes in miss and by our "sisters to the north".

this also isn't the first time your administration has soiled its depends trying to keep some kind of perception advantage on us.

get real, and get over yourself.

USM will rebound, but the clock is ticking. you have always been behind us in baseball. you're not head and shoulders above us in basketball. you won't stay ahead of us in football.

make your time.