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BCS Conference Comparison .......FINAL Including All Bowl Results!
Bowl season is over so we can incorporate those results and determine our final BCS Conference Champion.

The SEC wins the bowl season with a 7.5 - 3 points record, better than the PAC's 4-2 record. However, by a .625 to .623 margin, the PAC holds on to win the overall BCSCC title! The Big 12 had a good bowl season, having a 4-3 points result, and the ACC, thanks to BCS Champion FSU and Orange Bowl champ Clemson, manages the third best bowl performance, going 6-6 overall. Both the Big 12 and the ACC notched two "quality wins" (a win vs a top-15 opponent), thanks to FSU beating #2 Auburn and Clemson beating #4 Ohio State. The Big 12 also got two quality wins, thanks to Texas Tech's upset of #13 ASU and Oklahoma beating #3 Alabama. Between them, the Big 12 and SEC got 3 quality wins, and none of them were by their conference champion (Missouri beat #12 Oklahoma State). Ironically, the PAC was the only AQ conference not to have a quality win, and three of their bowl wins did not count because they came against non-AQ, non-ranked competition. The PAC had a poor bowl season despite their record, because they played very soft competition.

At the bottom, the AAC was a respectable 2.5-3, led by Fiesta Bowl Champion UCF. It's clear now that both UCF and Louisville we top-15 caliber teams capable of playing with anyone.

Finally, the B1G faded badly, going 2.5-5 in bowl season, but still clings to the #3 position.




BCS Conference Comparison standings

Overall Standings.........BOWL Results

Conference ……………… Wins …........................………… Losses ………Overall Season Record (Previous week's rankings)

1) PAC…………............SC,OR,AZ,UCL...........…….....ASU,ST...........................15-9...........................(1,1,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,4)
2) SEC…………....…TM,MZ+,LS,VD,SC,OLE,MSS,.........AL,AU,UGA...................21.5-13.................... (2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,1)
3) B1G……………...........NB,MSU+,..........…….…......WI,OS,MN,MCH,IWA,...........13.5-16.............. (3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,3,1,2)
4) ACC……………......…Pitt,NC, SYR,FSU+,CL+...............MD,MIA,GT,BC,VT,DK.....17-21...................(4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,3,3,3,4,3,3)
5) Big 12……………….........KST,TT+,OK+.............………..TX,BAY,OKST.....………...8-13....................(5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5, 5,5,5,5,5)
6) American …………....…UL,UCF+.........................RT,CIN,HOU..................….5.5-26..................(6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6)

+ 1.5 credit for quality win (see below)
* -2 for awful loss (see below)

Here is the method I use to determine wins and losses to rank the conferences:

1) A conference gets credit for a win if a member beats an OOC opponent, so long as the OOC opponent is (a) from another AQ conference, (b) Notre Dame, or © is from a non-AQ conference but is ranked in the AP or Coaches poll at the time the game was played, including the "others receiving votes" category. The purpose is to weed-out wins against basket-case competition, rent-a-wins, and the like.

2) A conference gets credit for 1.5 wins if the win is against any OOC team ranked in the AP and Coaches top 15 at the time the game was played. This is a bonus for a “quality win”.

3) A conference gets tagged with a loss if a member loses against any OOC opponent.

4) If the opponent lost to is FCS, then the conference is tagged with two losses. This is a penalty for an “awful loss”.

5) Conference rank is based on overall winning percentage, if winning percentage is equal the conference with more wins is ranked ahead.

As can be seen, there is a bias towards counting losses but not wins so a high winning % is hard to achieve. If a conference plays 10 OOC opponents and wins them all, but all are non-AQ and none are ranked in either poll, the conference's record will be 0-0, not 10-0. My system is based on the notion that such wins are essentially white noise, useless for determining AQ conference strength.
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LSU fans smell just like corn dogs.

Yes, it is often said, but so, so true.

LSU fans do smell like corn dogs.

I would never tell them that to their face though. This is something better said at Internet distances. Even now, I am afraid.

I am afraid that they'll know I said it. I'll walk past an LSU fan someday, and he'll see that look in my eye that gives it away. That look that says, "gee, what is that smell? Is it corn dogs?" The next thing you know, I'll have flat tires on my car.

If you only learn one thing from me today, remember not to tell LSU fans how they smell - you know, like corn dogs.

LSU fans seem, somehow, sensitive to that whole corn dog issue.

I think this may be why a lot of fans get beaten up by LSU fans. If you attend a game in Baton Rouge, try to avoid telling them that they smell like corn dogs. Say something else instead. Like, "Wow, LSU sure does have a great team this year. This is going to be a great SEC game."

It's hard. I know. It's like when you're having sex and you try to think about baseball. That corn dog smell is just so overwhelming. It makes it hard for you to think about football or baseball or whatever else. Your brain wanders into corn dog topics like: "Gee, I wonder if I took a bite of your finger, if you would taste just like a corn dog?"; or "Is this a real person or is it a giant corn dog trying to make me think it is a real person?" or "What did that giant corn dog just say?" or "Excuse me, Mister, why is it that you smell just exactly like corn dogs smell?" or, of course, after a silencer: "Madam, did you just let the corn dogs out?"

Heck, after what I've heard about LSU fans, I think it may be better not to smell them at all. Okay, not all of them. Some of them are nice. Sure. Smell the nice ones. That's okay.

You know what else is a bad thing to do? Holding your nose around them. They are real sensitive to that, too. Try holding your breath. But don't be obvious about it. Somehow they know you're trying not to breathe in the corn dog smell. And that offends them. They'll likely punch you for that if they catch on to what you're doing.

If you do breathe it in long enough, though, it'll permeate your whole body, and then you'll smell like a corn dog just like they do. But don't say, "Dang, now I smell like a corn dog." They take offense to that. And they will throw things. But not corn dogs. Hard stuff. Stuff that leaves bruises and makes you bleed. Then you may have to get stitches or something. Just don't say it. If you do start smelling like a corn dog, just shut up about it. Okay?

I think kids are acutely aware of corn dog smells too. Counsel your kids on how to behave around LSU fans. If LSU fans are driving around town, do not let your kids stick their heads out of your car window and sniff the air. No. Keep your windows rolled up. An odd change in their expression - indicating they smell corn dogs - might get a wrench or pipe or some other object tossed at your windshield. So, that's dangerous. Let your kids stick their heads out of the car windows as you drive - on some other weekend

I know you are just as puzzled as I am about some of this corn dog stuff. What puzzles me most is that I've never actually seen any of these LSU fans with a corn dog in their hand. Okay, maybe there's no mystery there - maybe they already ate the corn dogs. Who knows? Maybe there's a corn dog factory in Baton Rouge and they all work there. Maybe, there's a corn dog lotion that they wear, or a French perfume. Maybe their city council puts corn dog juice in the water supply - kind of like fluoride. The politics there are probably weird. The big political issue during the city election is whether they should add more ketchup or more mustard to the water. Don't comment on it though. It's not politically correct over there. It's like a malnutrition issue or something. It's like the corn dogs are probably added to the water to prevent starvation or something.

I know when you go to Baton Rouge, you're thinking: "Ahhhh. Here I am in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I'll bet the people here smell just like boiled crawfish or shrimp etoufe' or some fancy Cajun food." But just stop thinking that. That's just a myth. They smell just like corn dogs.

In fact, please listen to my advice. Leave them alone about the corn dog odor. And don't try masking the odor with something stronger. They'll curse at you. They'll say something like: "WTF, how dare you smoke a cigar in my home," or "WTF!! Are you too good for the smell of corn dogs?" and they'll cuss out your kids too: "WTF!!! Little Mister fancy pants over here acts like he doesn't want to smell like corn dogs."

Cajuns are not like us. Don't you see that, yet? They are really sensitive about being sniffed and about their corn dog aroma. They know they smell like corn dogs and it is no laughing matter to them at all. I know, I know. We sniff the Bammers and the UGA dawgs and the Ole messes, and we keep a straight face with each of them, but don't press your luck with the Cajun tiger fans. Don't refer to Death Valley as corn dog valley either. I mean that's just wrong. Even if you've been drinking, they'll beat you up and curse out your kids.

Along these lines, be extra careful when you laugh in their direction - even if you're laughing about something else. Like baseball or football, or sex or whatever. If you can't control yourself and you must laugh though, do not snort. The snorting makes them think that you smell their corn dog body odor from a distance or that you're choking on it or something. They'll likely burn your van for that. We lost a campus building over just one snort.

So, just remember. You can love one another without sniffing each other. You can enjoy the clash of a couple of good football teams. You can enjoy the thrill of the rivalry. But after the game, please heed my words. Please just move along. No sniffing the opposing fans this Saturday. Okay? Get your corn dog jollies at home.

Enough with this corn dog talk. Let's play ball...
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(09-01-2013 11:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  LSU fans smell just like corn dogs.

Yes, it is often said, but so, so true.

LSU fans do smell like corn dogs.

I would never tell them that to their face though. This is something better said at Internet distances. Even now, I am afraid.

I am afraid that they'll know I said it. I'll walk past an LSU fan someday, and he'll see that look in my eye that gives it away. That look that says, "gee, what is that smell? Is it corn dogs?" The next thing you know, I'll have flat tires on my car.

If you only learn one thing from me today, remember not to tell LSU fans how they smell - you know, like corn dogs.

LSU fans seem, somehow, sensitive to that whole corn dog issue.

I think this may be why a lot of fans get beaten up by LSU fans. If you attend a game in Baton Rouge, try to avoid telling them that they smell like corn dogs. Say something else instead. Like, "Wow, LSU sure does have a great team this year. This is going to be a great SEC game."

It's hard. I know. It's like when you're having sex and you try to think about baseball. That corn dog smell is just so overwhelming. It makes it hard for you to think about football or baseball or whatever else. Your brain wanders into corn dog topics like: "Gee, I wonder if I took a bite of your finger, if you would taste just like a corn dog?"; or "Is this a real person or is it a giant corn dog trying to make me think it is a real person?" or "What did that giant corn dog just say?" or "Excuse me, Mister, why is it that you smell just exactly like corn dogs smell?" or, of course, after a silencer: "Madam, did you just let the corn dogs out?"

Heck, after what I've heard about LSU fans, I think it may be better not to smell them at all. Okay, not all of them. Some of them are nice. Sure. Smell the nice ones. That's okay.

You know what else is a bad thing to do? Holding your nose around them. They are real sensitive to that, too. Try holding your breath. But don't be obvious about it. Somehow they know you're trying not to breathe in the corn dog smell. And that offends them. They'll likely punch you for that if they catch on to what you're doing.

If you do breathe it in long enough, though, it'll permeate your whole body, and then you'll smell like a corn dog just like they do. But don't say, "Dang, now I smell like a corn dog." They take offense to that. And they will throw things. But not corn dogs. Hard stuff. Stuff that leaves bruises and makes you bleed. Then you may have to get stitches or something. Just don't say it. If you do start smelling like a corn dog, just shut up about it. Okay?

I think kids are acutely aware of corn dog smells too. Counsel your kids on how to behave around LSU fans. If LSU fans are driving around town, do not let your kids stick their heads out of your car window and sniff the air. No. Keep your windows rolled up. An odd change in their expression - indicating they smell corn dogs - might get a wrench or pipe or some other object tossed at your windshield. So, that's dangerous. Let your kids stick their heads out of the car windows as you drive - on some other weekend

I know you are just as puzzled as I am about some of this corn dog stuff. What puzzles me most is that I've never actually seen any of these LSU fans with a corn dog in their hand. Okay, maybe there's no mystery there - maybe they already ate the corn dogs. Who knows? Maybe there's a corn dog factory in Baton Rouge and they all work there. Maybe, there's a corn dog lotion that they wear, or a French perfume. Maybe their city council puts corn dog juice in the water supply - kind of like fluoride. The politics there are probably weird. The big political issue during the city election is whether they should add more ketchup or more mustard to the water. Don't comment on it though. It's not politically correct over there. It's like a malnutrition issue or something. It's like the corn dogs are probably added to the water to prevent starvation or something.

I know when you go to Baton Rouge, you're thinking: "Ahhhh. Here I am in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I'll bet the people here smell just like boiled crawfish or shrimp etoufe' or some fancy Cajun food." But just stop thinking that. That's just a myth. They smell just like corn dogs.

In fact, please listen to my advice. Leave them alone about the corn dog odor. And don't try masking the odor with something stronger. They'll curse at you. They'll say something like: "WTF, how dare you smoke a cigar in my home," or "WTF!! Are you too good for the smell of corn dogs?" and they'll cuss out your kids too: "WTF!!! Little Mister fancy pants over here acts like he doesn't want to smell like corn dogs."

Cajuns are not like us. Don't you see that, yet? They are really sensitive about being sniffed and about their corn dog aroma. They know they smell like corn dogs and it is no laughing matter to them at all. I know, I know. We sniff the Bammers and the UGA dawgs and the Ole messes, and we keep a straight face with each of them, but don't press your luck with the Cajun tiger fans. Don't refer to Death Valley as corn dog valley either. I mean that's just wrong. Even if you've been drinking, they'll beat you up and curse out your kids.

Along these lines, be extra careful when you laugh in their direction - even if you're laughing about something else. Like baseball or football, or sex or whatever. If you can't control yourself and you must laugh though, do not snort. The snorting makes them think that you smell their corn dog body odor from a distance or that you're choking on it or something. They'll likely burn your van for that. We lost a campus building over just one snort.

So, just remember. You can love one another without sniffing each other. You can enjoy the clash of a couple of good football teams. You can enjoy the thrill of the rivalry. But after the game, please heed my words. Please just move along. No sniffing the opposing fans this Saturday. Okay? Get your corn dog jollies at home.

Enough with this corn dog talk. Let's play ball...

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(09-01-2013 11:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  LSU fans smell just like corn dogs.

Yes, it is often said, but so, so true.

LSU fans do smell like corn dogs.

I would never tell them that to their face though. This is something better said at Internet distances. Even now, I am afraid.

I am afraid that they'll know I said it. I'll walk past an LSU fan someday, and he'll see that look in my eye that gives it away. That look that says, "gee, what is that smell? Is it corn dogs?" The next thing you know, I'll have flat tires on my car.

If you only learn one thing from me today, remember not to tell LSU fans how they smell - you know, like corn dogs.

LSU fans seem, somehow, sensitive to that whole corn dog issue.

I think this may be why a lot of fans get beaten up by LSU fans. If you attend a game in Baton Rouge, try to avoid telling them that they smell like corn dogs. Say something else instead. Like, "Wow, LSU sure does have a great team this year. This is going to be a great SEC game."

It's hard. I know. It's like when you're having sex and you try to think about baseball. That corn dog smell is just so overwhelming. It makes it hard for you to think about football or baseball or whatever else. Your brain wanders into corn dog topics like: "Gee, I wonder if I took a bite of your finger, if you would taste just like a corn dog?"; or "Is this a real person or is it a giant corn dog trying to make me think it is a real person?" or "What did that giant corn dog just say?" or "Excuse me, Mister, why is it that you smell just exactly like corn dogs smell?" or, of course, after a silencer: "Madam, did you just let the corn dogs out?"

Heck, after what I've heard about LSU fans, I think it may be better not to smell them at all. Okay, not all of them. Some of them are nice. Sure. Smell the nice ones. That's okay.

You know what else is a bad thing to do? Holding your nose around them. They are real sensitive to that, too. Try holding your breath. But don't be obvious about it. Somehow they know you're trying not to breathe in the corn dog smell. And that offends them. They'll likely punch you for that if they catch on to what you're doing.

If you do breathe it in long enough, though, it'll permeate your whole body, and then you'll smell like a corn dog just like they do. But don't say, "Dang, now I smell like a corn dog." They take offense to that. And they will throw things. But not corn dogs. Hard stuff. Stuff that leaves bruises and makes you bleed. Then you may have to get stitches or something. Just don't say it. If you do start smelling like a corn dog, just shut up about it. Okay?

I think kids are acutely aware of corn dog smells too. Counsel your kids on how to behave around LSU fans. If LSU fans are driving around town, do not let your kids stick their heads out of your car window and sniff the air. No. Keep your windows rolled up. An odd change in their expression - indicating they smell corn dogs - might get a wrench or pipe or some other object tossed at your windshield. So, that's dangerous. Let your kids stick their heads out of the car windows as you drive - on some other weekend

I know you are just as puzzled as I am about some of this corn dog stuff. What puzzles me most is that I've never actually seen any of these LSU fans with a corn dog in their hand. Okay, maybe there's no mystery there - maybe they already ate the corn dogs. Who knows? Maybe there's a corn dog factory in Baton Rouge and they all work there. Maybe, there's a corn dog lotion that they wear, or a French perfume. Maybe their city council puts corn dog juice in the water supply - kind of like fluoride. The politics there are probably weird. The big political issue during the city election is whether they should add more ketchup or more mustard to the water. Don't comment on it though. It's not politically correct over there. It's like a malnutrition issue or something. It's like the corn dogs are probably added to the water to prevent starvation or something.

I know when you go to Baton Rouge, you're thinking: "Ahhhh. Here I am in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I'll bet the people here smell just like boiled crawfish or shrimp etoufe' or some fancy Cajun food." But just stop thinking that. That's just a myth. They smell just like corn dogs.

In fact, please listen to my advice. Leave them alone about the corn dog odor. And don't try masking the odor with something stronger. They'll curse at you. They'll say something like: "WTF, how dare you smoke a cigar in my home," or "WTF!! Are you too good for the smell of corn dogs?" and they'll cuss out your kids too: "WTF!!! Little Mister fancy pants over here acts like he doesn't want to smell like corn dogs."

Cajuns are not like us. Don't you see that, yet? They are really sensitive about being sniffed and about their corn dog aroma. They know they smell like corn dogs and it is no laughing matter to them at all. I know, I know. We sniff the Bammers and the UGA dawgs and the Ole messes, and we keep a straight face with each of them, but don't press your luck with the Cajun tiger fans. Don't refer to Death Valley as corn dog valley either. I mean that's just wrong. Even if you've been drinking, they'll beat you up and curse out your kids.

Along these lines, be extra careful when you laugh in their direction - even if you're laughing about something else. Like baseball or football, or sex or whatever. If you can't control yourself and you must laugh though, do not snort. The snorting makes them think that you smell their corn dog body odor from a distance or that you're choking on it or something. They'll likely burn your van for that. We lost a campus building over just one snort.

So, just remember. You can love one another without sniffing each other. You can enjoy the clash of a couple of good football teams. You can enjoy the thrill of the rivalry. But after the game, please heed my words. Please just move along. No sniffing the opposing fans this Saturday. Okay? Get your corn dog jollies at home.

Enough with this corn dog talk. Let's play ball...

Do you write for the paper? Cuz that is some funny chit. Calkens-esque.
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(09-01-2013 11:58 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Do you write for the paper? Cuz that is some funny chit. Calkens-esque.

I've lived in Louisiana for quite some time, and while there are certainly a lot of rednecks down here, I've never gotten the "corn dog" reference. 07-coffee3
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Seriously ? Funny that You bring that up. At a now closed Cajun resturant/sports bar here in Louisville called Furlongs that used to be a gathering spot for transplanted LSU Fans one of the appetizers was Mini Corndogs. They ate them in droves along with Crawfish and Shrimp. True story.
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(09-02-2013 01:22 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Seriously ? Funny that You bring that up. At a now closed Cajun resturant/sports bar here in Louisville called Furlongs that used to be a gathering spot for transplanted LSU Fans one of the appetizers was Mini Corndogs. They ate them in droves along with Crawfish and Shrimp. True story.

Well let's face it: mini corn dogs are awesome, you don't have to be an LSU fan to like. Ever dipped them in cheddar cheese?
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My head hurts with the "quo" bashing....now I had my disagreements with quo but he has always done this thread...no troll intentions what so ever...the Old School BIG EAST Posters know this....geez...03-banghead03-banghead
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This comparison smells of corn dogs.
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(09-02-2013 07:14 PM)Maize Wrote:  My head hurts with the "quo" bashing....now I had my disagreements with quo but he has always done this thread...no troll intentions what so ever...the Old School BIG EAST Posters know this....geez...03-banghead03-banghead

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(09-02-2013 10:38 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  This comparison smells of corn dogs.

Actually, the original motivation was from back in 2008, when late in the season, a high-ranked Florida team played a rent-a-win, I think it was the Citadel, and lots of folks complained that they got an easy win when all the other top teams were playing big rivalry games and the like. So I decided to come up with a system that didn't give any credit for those types of games.

Also, the Big East was constantly getting bashed as the worst AQ conference, but my gut feeling was that this wasn't true. So i also wanted to develop a system to prove it. And indeed, in the 4 years I've used this system, the Big East was only worst one time, and in 2009 we finished second.

From a post on 1/11/2010:

Congratulations to the SEC, the 2009 Conference Comparison champ.

...........................Wins bowl season .............Losses bowl season................Record for the season (last week rank)

1) SEC .....................5............................ 4..................................................15-10 (1)
2) Big East ..... ........ 2..............................2...................................................11-10 (2)
3) Pac-10 ............. ..1.......................... ..5 ..................................................10-14 (3)
4) Big10 ................. .4.............................3 ...................................................9-15 (5)
5) ACC ....................3..............................4 ............. ...................................13-22 (4)
6) Big 12 ..................4.............................4....................................................8-17 (6)
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(09-01-2013 10:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  It’s football season! So time for the BCS-CC, a Big East/AAC board tradition since 2009. 2013 is still a BCS year, and the AAC is still AQ, so I will be tracking our conference’s performance versus other AQ conferences.

BCS Conference Comparison standings, September 1st:

Conference ……………… Wins …………… Losses ……………………… Overall record

1) SEC……………AU,FL,ALA,LSU,SC……MSS,UGA,KY…………………....… 5-3
2) B1G……………………PST,NW…………..PURD,IOW……………………........ 2-2
3) ACC………………VA, Clem+ ……..……UNC, VT, SYR…………....…….… 2.5 - 3
4) PAC…………………WASH,UT…………WASHS,Cal,ORGS*………....….… 2-4
5) Big 12………………..OKST, TT………IOWS*,TCU,KST*………....………..2-5
6) American ……………Cincy………Tem, USF*,UConn*, Rutg, SMU…....1-7

+ 1.5 credit for quality win (see below)
* awful loss costs as -2 (see below)

Here is the method I use to determine wins and losses to rank the conferences:

1) A conference gets credit for a win if a member beats an OOC opponent, so long as the OOC opponent is (a) from another AQ conference, (b) Notre Dame, or © is from a non-AQ conference but is ranked in the AP or Coaches poll at the time the game was played, including the "others receiving votes" category. The purpose is to weed-out wins against basket-case competition, rent-a-wins, and the like.

2) A conference gets credit for 1.5 wins if the win is against any OOC team ranked in the AP or Coaches top 15 at the time the game was played. This is a bonus for a “quality win”.

3) A conference gets tagged with a loss if a member loses against any OOC opponent.

4) If the opponent lost to is FCS, then the conference is tagged with two losses. This is a penalty for an “awful loss”.

5) Conference rank is based on overall winning percentage.

As can be seen, there is a bias towards counting losses but not wins so a high winning % is hard to achieve. If a conference plays 10 OOC opponents and wins them all, but all are non-AQ and none are ranked in either poll, the conference's record will be 0-0, not 10-0. My system is based on the notion that such wins are essentially white noise, useless information for determining AQ conference strength.

So who gets Louisville's win?
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RE: BCS Conference Comparison ................. September 1st
(09-04-2013 12:10 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  So who gets Louisville's win?

Nobody, because to get credit for beating a team from a non-AQ conference (like Ohio), that non-AQ team has to be ranked in the coaches or AP poll (including "others receiving votes") at the time the game was played, and last week, the Bobcats were not.

Likewise, for example, the SEC did not get a win for Arkansas beating UL-Lafayette, and for the same reason. In my method, while all losses count, not every win counts, in fact many OOC wins do not count.

But since you guys are in the AAC this year, any OOC wins you get that do count will be credited to the AAC, not the ACC.
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(09-02-2013 07:14 PM)Maize Wrote:  My head hurts with the "quo" bashing....now I had my disagreements with quo but he has always done this thread...no troll intentions what so ever...the Old School BIG EAST Posters know this....geez...03-banghead03-banghead

Thanks Maize. 04-cheers

No problem....you been doing this chart for years and is non bias and informative....was just surprised the newbies didn't understand...04-cheers
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Week 3 update.
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(09-15-2013 08:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Week 3 update.

If I may suggest, on the status update above, if you can somehow post your previous week summary it would make it more enjoyable to read the historical way conferences and teams got to the position of the current week. Once you update you original post, the historical references are lost.
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(09-15-2013 08:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Week 3 update.

If I may suggest, on the status update above, if you can somehow post your previous week summary it would make it more enjoyable to read the historical way conferences and teams got to the position of the current week. Once you update you original post, the historical references are lost.

Thanks for the suggestion. How about this: I have modified the standings with a column that tracks the rankings for previous week (see the NOTE of explanation added, and the standings themselves, in the OP). So for example if you look at the standings, instead of just seeing that the B1G is currently #3 in the overall season standings as of week 3, you can see that their ranking history for the season is #2 (week 1), #1 (week 2), and now of course #3. And, beginning with next week, I will also leave the previous week's summary after the current standings to provide a narrative account of the movement from the previous week to this week. Does this work?
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(09-15-2013 08:55 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  
(09-15-2013 08:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Week 3 update.

If I may suggest, on the status update above, if you can somehow post your previous week summary it would make it more enjoyable to read the historical way conferences and teams got to the position of the current week. Once you update you original post, the historical references are lost.

Thanks for the suggestion. How about this: I have modified the standings with a column that tracks the rankings for previous week (see the NOTE of explanation added, and the standings themselves, in the OP). So for example if you look at the standings, instead of just seeing that the B1G is currently #3 in the overall season standings as of week 3, you can see that their ranking history for the season is #2 (week 1), #1 (week 2), and now of course #3. And, beginning with next week, I will also leave the previous week's summary after the current standings to provide a narrative account of the movement from the previous week to this week. Does this work?

Works for me! Nice to see historically how conference have progressed or regressed. Thanks!
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