Let's assume Pete Thamel's article is correct.

That is everyone in Division I stays in Division I but the control is vested in Division IV which is the 10 FBS leagues and two non-football leagues (presumably Big East plus whomever).

If this scenario plays out, if you are summoned to address the Sun Belt presidents what is your advice?

I think I'd tout a 16 or 18 team model pursuing top level basketball schools to try to improve NCAA success while giving them access to the top level voting group.

In other words...raid the Missouri and Ohio Valley?

What you said. Bring on NMSU for all sports, add another football program, and invite 3 good basketball programs to join us.

If we're looking at football only adds that could be interested in moving to earn a seat at the D4 voting table, than we need to pull the best basketball schools in the area and check interest.

Wichita State and Missouri State from the MVC
Oral Roberts from the Southland
Murray State, Belmont, maybe Eastern Kentucky out of the Ohio Valley
NMSU All Sports

Gives a lot of leverage for Missouri state as well.

What would we do with Idaho though?

(07-29-2013 06:51 AM)asu7 Wrote:  What would we do with Idaho though?

*crickets*




Seriously though, regardless of if its in the SBC or elsewhere, the handwriting is on the wall for Idaho. If they intend to stay FBS they better be announcing a plan quickly and it better involve doing something about that stadium. They added a roof so they can take one off presumably. Time to fish or cut bait.

Unless we have a shot at a current FBS school, I think Missouri State needs ti be the top priority.

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(07-29-2013 12:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let's assume Pete Thamel's article is correct.

That is everyone in Division I stays in Division I but the control is vested in Division IV which is the 10 FBS leagues and two non-football leagues (presumably Big East plus whomever).

If this scenario plays out, if you are summoned to address the Sun Belt presidents what is your advice?

I think I'd tout a 16 or 18 team model pursuing top level basketball schools to try to improve NCAA success while giving them access to the top level voting group.

Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

(07-29-2013 12:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let's assume Pete Thamel's article is correct.

That is everyone in Division I stays in Division I but the control is vested in Division IV which is the 10 FBS leagues and two non-football leagues (presumably Big East plus whomever).

If this scenario plays out, if you are summoned to address the Sun Belt presidents what is your advice?

I think I'd tout a 16 or 18 team model pursuing top level basketball schools to try to improve NCAA success while giving them access to the top level voting group.

You read some of these messageboards and they are talking about cutting dead weight. If we are included, won't more FCS moves ups like Northern Iowa or Missouri State just tick of off further?

(07-29-2013 10:06 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 12:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let's assume Pete Thamel's article is correct.

That is everyone in Division I stays in Division I but the control is vested in Division IV which is the 10 FBS leagues and two non-football leagues (presumably Big East plus whomever).

If this scenario plays out, if you are summoned to address the Sun Belt presidents what is your advice?

I think I'd tout a 16 or 18 team model pursuing top level basketball schools to try to improve NCAA success while giving them access to the top level voting group.

You read some of these messageboards and they are talking about cutting dead weight. If we are included, won't more FCS moves ups like Northern Iowa or Missouri State just tick of off further?

I think the assumption is that you add one more FCS football team and then add 2-4 more high quality non-football schools, who would now be willing to join the SBC because of their membership in D4.

(07-29-2013 10:06 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 12:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let's assume Pete Thamel's article is correct.

That is everyone in Division I stays in Division I but the control is vested in Division IV which is the 10 FBS leagues and two non-football leagues (presumably Big East plus whomever).

If this scenario plays out, if you are summoned to address the Sun Belt presidents what is your advice?

I think I'd tout a 16 or 18 team model pursuing top level basketball schools to try to improve NCAA success while giving them access to the top level voting group.

You read some of these messageboards and they are talking about cutting dead weight. If we are included, won't more FCS moves ups like Northern Iowa or Missouri State just tick of off further?

I would not necessarily look for FCS moveups; I might target non-football schools with very strong hoops.

Are these extra schools being added for all sports, or just basketball?

(07-29-2013 10:23 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Are these extra schools being added for all sports, or just basketball?

All sports

Will let it play out, but I tend to think the answer will lie in the middle when all of this is over....Hopefully this comes to an end soon with whatever they are doing...

(07-29-2013 10:06 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 12:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let's assume Pete Thamel's article is correct.

That is everyone in Division I stays in Division I but the control is vested in Division IV which is the 10 FBS leagues and two non-football leagues (presumably Big East plus whomever).

If this scenario plays out, if you are summoned to address the Sun Belt presidents what is your advice?

I think I'd tout a 16 or 18 team model pursuing top level basketball schools to try to improve NCAA success while giving them access to the top level voting group.

You read some of these messageboards and they are talking about cutting dead weight. If we are included, won't more FCS moves ups like Northern Iowa or Missouri State just tick of off further?

Messageboards dont make rules and dont mean squat. The bottom line is that they dont want legal action so all of FBS will be included.

(07-29-2013 10:13 AM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 10:06 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 12:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let's assume Pete Thamel's article is correct.

That is everyone in Division I stays in Division I but the control is vested in Division IV which is the 10 FBS leagues and two non-football leagues (presumably Big East plus whomever).

If this scenario plays out, if you are summoned to address the Sun Belt presidents what is your advice?

I think I'd tout a 16 or 18 team model pursuing top level basketball schools to try to improve NCAA success while giving them access to the top level voting group.

You read some of these messageboards and they are talking about cutting dead weight. If we are included, won't more FCS moves ups like Northern Iowa or Missouri State just tick of off further?

I would not necessarily look for FCS moveups; I might target non-football schools with very strong hoops.

I looked at the post season Top 25 for the past five years. If you remove the existing FBS schools + Big East + schools outside of our region (Siena, Gonzaga, St. Marys...) you get the following schools.

Wichita State,
Florida Gulf Coast,
Murray State,
Virginia Commonwealth,
Richmond

Wichita State and Murray State

(07-29-2013 10:33 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 10:13 AM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 10:06 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 12:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let's assume Pete Thamel's article is correct.

That is everyone in Division I stays in Division I but the control is vested in Division IV which is the 10 FBS leagues and two non-football leagues (presumably Big East plus whomever).

If this scenario plays out, if you are summoned to address the Sun Belt presidents what is your advice?

I think I'd tout a 16 or 18 team model pursuing top level basketball schools to try to improve NCAA success while giving them access to the top level voting group.

You read some of these messageboards and they are talking about cutting dead weight. If we are included, won't more FCS moves ups like Northern Iowa or Missouri State just tick of off further?

I would not necessarily look for FCS moveups; I might target non-football schools with very strong hoops.

I looked at the post season Top 25 for the past five years. If you remove the existing FBS schools + Big East + schools outside of our region (Siena, Gonzaga, St. Marys...) you get the following schools.

Wichita State,
Florida Gulf Coast,
Murray State,
Virginia Commonwealth,
Richmond

How about Belmont or Davidson?

If two non-football leagues are included, I would assume the A10 would be one of them. That would eliminate any members of the that conference from having a need to relocate.