(07-23-2013 03:10 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  This is all about getting voting rights away from non football playing and FCS D-1 schools on FBS football issues. This is about Recruiting and coming up with an amount to pay players. This was from
His show today.

Yes, but part of me still believes they want reduce the number of schools in FBS. Get the voting right and the rule to remain can be changed or enforced. 15,000 actual attendance to stay FBS, with not tricks to get above the line, ie ticket give always, reduced ticket pricing?????? Reduce the number to around 96 teams, increase TV deals, keep the BCS money, and less teams fighting over recruits. Yeah, I can see this happening.

(07-23-2013 08:38 PM)GameParson Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 04:17 PM)eco challenged Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 04:01 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 03:10 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  This is all about getting voting rights away from non football playing and FCS D-1 schools on FBS football issues. This is about Recruiting and coming up with an amount to pay players. This was from
His show tiday.

I say as I have always said... they don't need to pay players. The players don't suffer more than any student does. In fact they usually have it better off with better meal plans, better dorms, better scholarships, even help with books...

Paying players is just going to open a bigger can of worms than there already is with elicit recruiting, transfers, and character issues. Think about what these kids are going to do when they can actually afford to go out to bars and reak havoc instead of having to maybe stay in and study some.

The majority of these players need money for clothes and transportation, since they can only work in the summer. I can see why a stipend is needed, there are no avenues to earn money for these players outside of summer work, and it can be limiting even then because of time constraints.

Since they all have to go to summer school so they can live on campus and work out with the S& C coaches they really can't even work in the summer anymore.

They don't take a boat load of hours in the summer. If they were really that strapped for cash they could wait tables for a couple of hours at night in the summer and the off season. I hate bob stoops but I do agree with his statement that they're not the first students who have to go hungry on a Sunday night when the caf closes early. Instead of stipends I think the schools should work to get them jobs that it could fund to do community outreach like having them teach chess to kids after school in the offseason. Pay them a bit more than minimum wage and it would give them a couple of spending bucks a week just like workstudy (kind of) does for regular students.

(07-23-2013 09:48 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 08:38 PM)GameParson Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 04:17 PM)eco challenged Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 04:01 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 03:10 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  This is all about getting voting rights away from non football playing and FCS D-1 schools on FBS football issues. This is about Recruiting and coming up with an amount to pay players. This was from
His show tiday.

I say as I have always said... they don't need to pay players. The players don't suffer more than any student does. In fact they usually have it better off with better meal plans, better dorms, better scholarships, even help with books...

Paying players is just going to open a bigger can of worms than there already is with elicit recruiting, transfers, and character issues. Think about what these kids are going to do when they can actually afford to go out to bars and reak havoc instead of having to maybe stay in and study some.

The majority of these players need money for clothes and transportation, since they can only work in the summer. I can see why a stipend is needed, there are no avenues to earn money for these players outside of summer work, and it can be limiting even then because of time constraints.

Since they all have to go to summer school so they can live on campus and work out with the S& C coaches they really can't even work in the summer anymore.

They don't take a boat load of hours in the summer. If they were really that strapped for cash they could wait tables for a couple of hours at night in the summer and the off season. I hate bob stoops but I do agree with his statement that they're not the first students who have to go hungry on a Sunday night when the caf closes early. Instead of stipends I think the schools should work to get them jobs that it could fund to do community outreach like having them teach chess to kids after school in the offseason. Pay them a bit more than minimum wage and it would give them a couple of spending bucks a week just like workstudy (kind of) does for regular students.

I used to use the tutor service at SMU regularly and some of the tutors were football players making $15/hour and that was in 1990.

Gregg Doyel is a douche but makes some fair points about how cash "poor" college football players actually are:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...-paychecks

(07-23-2013 10:42 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  Gregg Doyel is a douche but makes some fair points about how cash "poor" college football players actually are:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...-paychecks

Yeah, that pretty much says it all.

College players almost all receive around $4k per year in spending money in the form of a Pell Grant. For most kids that Pell Grant helps off set college cost but for a Athlete who has room, board, health care, food&beverage taken care of by their scholarships and athletic department that $4k in Pell Grant money is nothing but spending money. Throw in the housing allowance and other misc funds that they get and the average athlete probably has more spending money then the average broke college student who like a lot of us was deciding between a bag of tap ramen or a case of natural light at the end of the month we were so broke.

Pell Grant Money

(07-23-2013 09:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 09:48 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 08:38 PM)GameParson Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 04:17 PM)eco challenged Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 04:01 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I say as I have always said... they don't need to pay players. The players don't suffer more than any student does. In fact they usually have it better off with better meal plans, better dorms, better scholarships, even help with books...

Paying players is just going to open a bigger can of worms than there already is with elicit recruiting, transfers, and character issues. Think about what these kids are going to do when they can actually afford to go out to bars and reak havoc instead of having to maybe stay in and study some.

The majority of these players need money for clothes and transportation, since they can only work in the summer. I can see why a stipend is needed, there are no avenues to earn money for these players outside of summer work, and it can be limiting even then because of time constraints.

Since they all have to go to summer school so they can live on campus and work out with the S& C coaches they really can't even work in the summer anymore.

They don't take a boat load of hours in the summer. If they were really that strapped for cash they could wait tables for a couple of hours at night in the summer and the off season. I hate bob stoops but I do agree with his statement that they're not the first students who have to go hungry on a Sunday night when the caf closes early. Instead of stipends I think the schools should work to get them jobs that it could fund to do community outreach like having them teach chess to kids after school in the offseason. Pay them a bit more than minimum wage and it would give them a couple of spending bucks a week just like workstudy (kind of) does for regular students.

I used to use the tutor service at SMU regularly and some of the tutors were football players making $15/hour and that was in 1990.

We had a payroll to meet

(07-24-2013 08:01 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 09:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 09:48 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 08:38 PM)GameParson Wrote:  

(07-23-2013 04:17 PM)eco challenged Wrote:  The majority of these players need money for clothes and transportation, since they can only work in the summer. I can see why a stipend is needed, there are no avenues to earn money for these players outside of summer work, and it can be limiting even then because of time constraints.

Since they all have to go to summer school so they can live on campus and work out with the S& C coaches they really can't even work in the summer anymore.

They don't take a boat load of hours in the summer. If they were really that strapped for cash they could wait tables for a couple of hours at night in the summer and the off season. I hate bob stoops but I do agree with his statement that they're not the first students who have to go hungry on a Sunday night when the caf closes early. Instead of stipends I think the schools should work to get them jobs that it could fund to do community outreach like having them teach chess to kids after school in the offseason. Pay them a bit more than minimum wage and it would give them a couple of spending bucks a week just like workstudy (kind of) does for regular students.

I used to use the tutor service at SMU regularly and some of the tutors were football players making $15/hour and that was in 1990.

We had a payroll to meet

The IRONY.

SMU got the Death Penalty for the very thing the P5 are fighting to be allowed to do....

"the first guy through the wall... he always gets bloody... always."

-Moneyball