(07-01-2013 06:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:08 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 04:49 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 03:35 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  To the Cajuns: Hold tight! We need you. Stay put and lets rub the CUSA noses in the dirt. This conference will be better than CUSA and our TV contract will soon be as good and better in time. Time for the Sun To RISE!

Dude it's not going to happen. We are the developmental league for CUSA. If any of our teams break the top 25 or gets an invitation they will be gone. I believe that's why Tech got an invite.

It could be argued that the Belt hit its peak last year. ULM opened a lot of eyes early in the season and the Cajuns put 45,000 in the Superdome. If all the members would have stayed put, then we would be seeing a dying CUSA. Your enthusiasm for the Belt is cute. Your insistence that those that founded the league join in on this love fest is not.

Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

You really think what you say here has any impact positive or negative?

The combined public chatter about something certainly impacts its perception and forms the "conventional wisdom" on a subject. Does ULL offer a marketing degree?

This is one of those situations where if you are right...your complaining makes zero difference. If you are wrong...your complaining harms you. Which makes the cost-benefit analysis pretty simple.

What is ULL?

" Ask WKU how easy it is to compete the first few years after transitioning. "
Losing 26 straight games isn't something that most teams would do.
"Toughest time of my life watching us lose 26 straight games...absolutely awful."

FAU's record may be hard for any team to achieve coming into the SBC
but WKU's could be achieved - but would probably be just as hard.

(07-01-2013 06:28 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:08 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 04:49 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  Dude it's not going to happen. We are the developmental league for CUSA. If any of our teams break the top 25 or gets an invitation they will be gone. I believe that's why Tech got an invite.

It could be argued that the Belt hit its peak last year. ULM opened a lot of eyes early in the season and the Cajuns put 45,000 in the Superdome. If all the members would have stayed put, then we would be seeing a dying CUSA. Your enthusiasm for the Belt is cute. Your insistence that those that founded the league join in on this love fest is not.

Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

You really think what you say here has any impact positive or negative?

The combined public chatter about something certainly impacts its perception and forms the "conventional wisdom" on a subject. Does ULL offer a marketing degree?

This is one of those situations where if you are right...your complaining makes zero difference. If you are wrong...your complaining harms you. Which makes the cost-benefit analysis pretty simple.

What is ULL?

A descriptive acronym that I've reverted to lately for some reason.

(07-01-2013 06:28 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:08 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 04:49 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  Dude it's not going to happen. We are the developmental league for CUSA. If any of our teams break the top 25 or gets an invitation they will be gone. I believe that's why Tech got an invite.

It could be argued that the Belt hit its peak last year. ULM opened a lot of eyes early in the season and the Cajuns put 45,000 in the Superdome. If all the members would have stayed put, then we would be seeing a dying CUSA. Your enthusiasm for the Belt is cute. Your insistence that those that founded the league join in on this love fest is not.

Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

You really think what you say here has any impact positive or negative?

The combined public chatter about something certainly impacts its perception and forms the "conventional wisdom" on a subject. Does ULL offer a marketing degree?

This is one of those situations where if you are right...your complaining makes zero difference. If you are wrong...your complaining harms you. Which makes the cost-benefit analysis pretty simple.

What is ULL?

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette.

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 04:49 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 03:35 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  To the Cajuns: Hold tight! We need you. Stay put and lets rub the CUSA noses in the dirt. This conference will be better than CUSA and our TV contract will soon be as good and better in time. Time for the Sun To RISE!

Dude it's not going to happen. We are the developmental league for CUSA. If any of our teams break the top 25 or gets an invitation they will be gone. I believe that's why Tech got an invite.

It could be argued that the Belt hit its peak last year. ULM opened a lot of eyes early in the season and the Cajuns put 45,000 in the Superdome. If all the members would have stayed put, then we would be seeing a dying CUSA. Your enthusiasm for the Belt is cute. Your insistence that those that founded the league join in on this love fest is not.

Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

(07-01-2013 06:57 PM)meangreener Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:28 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:08 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

You really think what you say here has any impact positive or negative?

The combined public chatter about something certainly impacts its perception and forms the "conventional wisdom" on a subject. Does ULL offer a marketing degree?

This is one of those situations where if you are right...your complaining makes zero difference. If you are wrong...your complaining harms you. Which makes the cost-benefit analysis pretty simple.

What is ULL?

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette.

We never use ULL. UL-Lafayette is okay but we prefer simply UL.

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 04:49 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 03:35 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  To the Cajuns: Hold tight! We need you. Stay put and lets rub the CUSA noses in the dirt. This conference will be better than CUSA and our TV contract will soon be as good and better in time. Time for the Sun To RISE!

Dude it's not going to happen. We are the developmental league for CUSA. If any of our teams break the top 25 or gets an invitation they will be gone. I believe that's why Tech got an invite.

It could be argued that the Belt hit its peak last year. ULM opened a lot of eyes early in the season and the Cajuns put 45,000 in the Superdome. If all the members would have stayed put, then we would be seeing a dying CUSA. Your enthusiasm for the Belt is cute. Your insistence that those that founded the league join in on this love fest is not.

Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

Good post, but I can promise you both Ga Southern and App have much bigger expectations than being the next WKU. We both expect to do as much or more than any team in the Sun Belt or CUSA.

(07-01-2013 08:19 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:57 PM)meangreener Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:28 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:08 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  You really think what you say here has any impact positive or negative?

The combined public chatter about something certainly impacts its perception and forms the "conventional wisdom" on a subject. Does ULL offer a marketing degree?

This is one of those situations where if you are right...your complaining makes zero difference. If you are wrong...your complaining harms you. Which makes the cost-benefit analysis pretty simple.

What is ULL?

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette.

We never use ULL. UL-Lafayette is okay but we prefer simply UL.

Alright, lets not turn this into a name thing please.

(07-01-2013 03:35 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  Couple of quick things:

As far as the what history says about teams "except Boise" and their success or lack there of in transition to FBS I only say that there have never been two programs more ready for that transition than GSU/ASU. You can say that our success in the past doesn't mean crap if you want to, but we both have well established winning traditions, methods and strong fan bases and both in a better position for this move than even Troy was. So, you shouldn't be surprised if we both actually have better records than Troy did. You cant look at what Buffalo did as an example and even put that in the same ball park as what us and App are doing! In Football, let there be no mistake in what I am saying... write it down, copy and save it... you can expect both former SoCon teams to hold their own in the SBC and from day one.

You absolutely can look at what Buffalo or anyone else did for comparison. You may not have a lot in common with Buffalo as an FCS program, but you have a ton in common with them as a FBS program. A lot of the of the advantages you had in FCS, you won't have in FBS. In FCS you guys were Alabama/Texas/USC/Ohio State in FCS you were in the SEC. Just as Bama could win nearly any recruiting battle against another FBS program, you could win nearly any battle against other FCS programs. In FBS you're just another program at the bottom rung of the conference ladder, one with a winning tradition I'll grant you, but a winning tradition at a lower level the majority of your recruits won't give a damn about because they're getting FBS offers, what do they care about what you did at a level of football they see as beneath them?

I'm not saying you'll be Buffalo, I'm not saying you won't compete in the Sun Belt, but again, performing better than Troy is going to be a tall order, the Sun Belt you're entering will be far tougher than the one Troy did, there was no program even close to where Arkansas State or Louisiana are currently, if Troy returns to form they'll befar tougher than anyone Troy had to deal with. You'll undoubtedly be closer to Troy than Buffalo, but again I do not expect either of you to be better than Troy and if you think you're both going to be better, you're high off your ass.

(07-01-2013 05:54 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  GSU/ASU addition: Upgrade over WKU and MTSU (I know you don't believe that right now - but you will see)

This very well may be the case from a football perspective as we have been mostly mediocre with only flashes of more. WKU will have only played five FBS seasons when they leave so the book is arguably still out on the Hilltoppers so to speak, but this "you'll see talk" is blatant homerism and nothing more. You can say it all you want, you may truly believe it, but it's not prognostication, it's homerism. Good luck to you guys I mean it, prove me wrong.

I guess we should let those recruits we've already signed over other FBS programs that have stated they are coming to App because of our winning tradition that you know more about what they are looking for than they do.

If you think our results will resemble Buffalos you are as clueless as the fans that you love to talk about they are predicting App or GSU will win the conference by year two.

The reality is we will be somewhere is the middle.

(07-01-2013 08:22 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 04:49 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 03:35 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  To the Cajuns: Hold tight! We need you. Stay put and lets rub the CUSA noses in the dirt. This conference will be better than CUSA and our TV contract will soon be as good and better in time. Time for the Sun To RISE!

Dude it's not going to happen. We are the developmental league for CUSA. If any of our teams break the top 25 or gets an invitation they will be gone. I believe that's why Tech got an invite.

It could be argued that the Belt hit its peak last year. ULM opened a lot of eyes early in the season and the Cajuns put 45,000 in the Superdome. If all the members would have stayed put, then we would be seeing a dying CUSA. Your enthusiasm for the Belt is cute. Your insistence that those that founded the league join in on this love fest is not.

Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

Good post, but I can promise you both Ga Southern and App have much bigger expectations than being the next WKU. We both expect to do as much or more than any team in the Sun Belt or CUSA.

If you can manage to be second in the nation in Conference Championships won over a 5 year period, and have the 4 winningest seasons (conference championships, 5 of 7) in conference history, then I will be much more than impressed. That is what it would take to surpass what western has done in this conference

If either of you can win 10 something bubba cups in like an 11 year period, you can then pass MTSU.

(07-01-2013 08:51 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I guess we should let those recruits we've already signed over other FBS programs that have stated they are coming to App because of our winning tradition that you know more about what they are looking for than they do.

If you think our results will resemble Buffalos you are as clueless as the fans that you love to talk about they are predicting App or GSU will win the conference by year two.

The reality is we will be somewhere is the middle.

Reading comprehension not your strong suit?

Quoted and bolded for your benefit:

(07-01-2013 08:43 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
I'm not saying you'll be Buffalo, I'm not saying you won't compete in the Sun Belt, but again, performing better than Troy is going to be a tall order, the Sun Belt you're entering will be far tougher than the one Troy did, there was no program even close to where Arkansas State or Louisiana are currently, if Troy returns to form they'll befar tougher than anyone Troy had to deal with. You'll undoubtedly be closer to Troy than Buffalo, but again I do not expect either of you to be better than Troy and if you think you're both going to be better, you're high off your ass.

(07-01-2013 08:37 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 08:19 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:57 PM)meangreener Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:28 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 06:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  The combined public chatter about something certainly impacts its perception and forms the "conventional wisdom" on a subject. Does ULL offer a marketing degree?

This is one of those situations where if you are right...your complaining makes zero difference. If you are wrong...your complaining harms you. Which makes the cost-benefit analysis pretty simple.

What is ULL?

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette.

We never use ULL. UL-Lafayette is okay but we prefer simply UL.

Alright, lets not turn this into a name thing please.

Remember, nothing that is said on this board has an impact on anything so its no big deal.

(07-01-2013 08:22 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 04:49 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 03:35 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  To the Cajuns: Hold tight! We need you. Stay put and lets rub the CUSA noses in the dirt. This conference will be better than CUSA and our TV contract will soon be as good and better in time. Time for the Sun To RISE!

Dude it's not going to happen. We are the developmental league for CUSA. If any of our teams break the top 25 or gets an invitation they will be gone. I believe that's why Tech got an invite.

It could be argued that the Belt hit its peak last year. ULM opened a lot of eyes early in the season and the Cajuns put 45,000 in the Superdome. If all the members would have stayed put, then we would be seeing a dying CUSA. Your enthusiasm for the Belt is cute. Your insistence that those that founded the league join in on this love fest is not.

Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

Good post, but I can promise you both Ga Southern and App have much bigger expectations than being the next WKU. We both expect to do as much or more than any team in the Sun Belt or CUSA.

Expectations and reality often collide in weird ways. I've often slammed the anti-FCS bias and expect a lot out of both App and GaSo. But sometimes you guys take the transition way to cavalierly. WKU has paid their FBS dues and you guys haven't yet. It is harder than it seems.

(07-01-2013 09:01 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 08:22 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 05:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 04:49 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 03:35 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  To the Cajuns: Hold tight! We need you. Stay put and lets rub the CUSA noses in the dirt. This conference will be better than CUSA and our TV contract will soon be as good and better in time. Time for the Sun To RISE!

Dude it's not going to happen. We are the developmental league for CUSA. If any of our teams break the top 25 or gets an invitation they will be gone. I believe that's why Tech got an invite.

It could be argued that the Belt hit its peak last year. ULM opened a lot of eyes early in the season and the Cajuns put 45,000 in the Superdome. If all the members would have stayed put, then we would be seeing a dying CUSA. Your enthusiasm for the Belt is cute. Your insistence that those that founded the league join in on this love fest is not.

Conference realignment has really turned UL fans into emotional wrecks.

I'll point out again that it wasn't too long ago we were banging our heads over the F_U's in the Bottom 10, that embarrassing FCS move-up WKU, and the collapse of UNT football. Now it is somehow the END OF THE WORLD that we aren't with them. My how times change.

The fact is that the jury is out. In fact the jury hasn't even been seated yet.

It is possible that App State, Georgia Southern, and Texas State never win a game except against each other. I doubt it but it is possible. It's also possible that ODU and Charlotte become permanent Bottom 10 dwellers and App State or GaSo becomes the next WKU in fairly short order. It's possible that UNT becomes the next UCF and its also possible that UNT just goes right on being the UNT of the last 8 years. It's possible that FIU's new coach is Mario Cristobal Jr...or its possible that its as big a cluster as it appears.

Its also possible that Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket could appear at UL headquarters tomorrow morning....AND...it is also possible that UL fans can spend the next 10 years foolishly perpetuating bad perceptions of their own conference and harming their own program in the process.

Not joining in the "love fest" is one thing. But purposefully bad-mouthing your own conference produces only negative returns for your own program.

Good post, but I can promise you both Ga Southern and App have much bigger expectations than being the next WKU. We both expect to do as much or more than any team in the Sun Belt or CUSA.

If you can manage to be second in the nation in Conference Championships won over a 5 year period, and have the 4 winningest seasons (conference championships, 5 of 7) in conference history, then I will be much more than impressed. That is what it would take to surpass what western has done in this conference

If either of you can win 10 something bubba cups in like an 11 year period, you can then pass MTSU.

To be fair football is the driving factor in realignment. Football programs tend to pay for "other" programs including basketball.

I guess you missed the part about the recruits we are already getting. Mt boy don't worry about it, we'll be fine, sorry we aren't going to be what you expect.

Why are you so concerned about what App and GSU will or won't do in the Sun Belt?

(07-01-2013 09:59 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I guess you missed the part about the recruits we are already getting. Mt boy don't worry about it, we'll be fine, sorry we aren't going to be what you expect.

Why are you so concerned about what App and GSU will or won't do in the Sun Belt?

You always want to look back and go HaHa and sturdy adds like app st. Just burns them!

(07-01-2013 09:59 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I guess you missed the part about the recruits we are already getting. Mt boy don't worry about it, we'll be fine, sorry we aren't going to be what you expect.

Why are you so concerned about what App and GSU will or won't do in the Sun Belt?

Yes, you've already signed a handful of recruits over FBS schools, but it's been a handful and they've been fringe FBS recruits or cases like Edwards where his FBS offers were to play a position other than quarterback.

I'm equally as concerned with what you will or won't do as you are concerned with my opinion. I'm just enjoying the civil discourse, though you're doing a decent job of compromising that civility. I'm happy to have this debate with you now, next year, in five years, but I'll ask you to be a bit more respectful, you can drop the "boy" talk. It's not necessary.

There's a fine line between trash talk between schools about to play and a frank, realistic discussion about the progress (or lack thereof) of a university's athletic department.

I think this thread has fallen over in to the former category.

(07-01-2013 11:10 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  There's a fine line between trash talk between schools about to play and a frank, realistic discussion about the progress (or lack thereof) of a university's athletic department.

I think this thread has fallen over in to the former category.

My only intent.