'Eh' with Sumlin Kliff and Piland we were the same record last year as we were in 2010 the year we lost to Rice. Keenum (and Kolb) were that good. If O'Korn is as good as advertised next year could be a surprise. Mucho talent on O, and we have the best MLB in Texas with Derrick Mathews and a stacked LB core. Question will be the Dline and secondary.

Same could be said on the basketball programs. How much better are we now than where we were with Penders aka CBI bound every year? If that? It's a piss ass excuse to say we are young, but we are.

We're building a new Football Stadium and re-doing the HOF along with a massive facelift across the campus. Things aren't as doom and gloom as they seem.

The Joe Young dilemma doesn't bother me because there are too many political circumstances: basically Michael wasn't added to the staff so they both bolt?

Next year is telling on the hires. I think there is potential on the new OC/DC as there is potential on House having another year under his belt with Knowles bulking. Potential doesn't translate into success however. We'll see.

Quote:[I don't like Dickey either but to be fair he lost 2 players. One was important and the other could/should have but was never really used effectively. We still have 2 Top 100 recruits on the roster including the CUSA Freshman of the Year (House).]

I'm sorry but House shouldn't have been Freshman of the year. While Juice (James) Woodard did score about 0.4 pts less per game, he out rebounded and out assisted house as a 2 guard with a team that was constantly riddled with injuries all year long. Him and Shaq Harrison got robbed. Harrison had one of the best years by a freshman point guard in Tulsa team history yet didn't make it onto the all freshman team. Instead some scrub from rice did just because we would have placed 3 on the team.

(06-07-2013 01:15 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Quote:[I don't like Dickey either but to be fair he lost 2 players. One was important and the other could/should have but was never really used effectively. We still have 2 Top 100 recruits on the roster including the CUSA Freshman of the Year (House).]

I'm sorry but House shouldn't have been Freshman of the year. While Juice (James) Woodard did score about 0.4 pts less per game, he out rebounded and out assisted house as a 2 guard with a team that was constantly riddled with injuries all year long. Him and Shaq Harrison got robbed. Harrison had one of the best years by a freshman point guard in Tulsa team history yet didn't make it onto the all freshman team. Instead some scrub from rice did just because we would have placed 3 on the team.

You mad bro?

(06-07-2013 01:15 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I'm sorry but House shouldn't have been Freshman of the year. While Juice (James) Woodard did score about 0.4 pts less per game, he out rebounded and out assisted house as a 2 guard with a team that was constantly riddled with injuries all year long. Him and Shaq Harrison got robbed. Harrison had one of the best years by a freshman point guard in Tulsa team history yet didn't make it onto the all freshman team. Instead some scrub from rice did just because we would have placed 3 on the team.

(06-07-2013 01:15 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Woodard did score about 0.4 pts less per game, he out rebounded and out assisted house

Technically true but come on by 0.2 and 1.0 respectively. If you really want to play that game House outscored him, he had a better 3pt %, had a better FT%, better FG%, etc. and in less time (all very close to Woodward but technically more....)

Woodward is a good player but its not the slam dunk you seem to think it is.

(06-07-2013 01:15 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Quote:[I don't like Dickey either but to be fair he lost 2 players. One was important and the other could/should have but was never really used effectively. We still have 2 Top 100 recruits on the roster including the CUSA Freshman of the Year (House).]

I'm sorry but House shouldn't have been Freshman of the year. While Juice (James) Woodard did score about 0.4 pts less per game, he out rebounded and out assisted house as a 2 guard with a team that was constantly riddled with injuries all year long. Him and Shaq Harrison got robbed. Harrison had one of the best years by a freshman point guard in Tulsa team history yet didn't make it onto the all freshman team. Instead some scrub from rice did just because we would have placed 3 on the team.

Tell me what me what they mad fo

(06-07-2013 08:45 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 01:15 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I'm sorry but House shouldn't have been Freshman of the year. While Juice (James) Woodard did score about 0.4 pts less per game, he out rebounded and out assisted house as a 2 guard with a team that was constantly riddled with injuries all year long. Him and Shaq Harrison got robbed. Harrison had one of the best years by a freshman point guard in Tulsa team history yet didn't make it onto the all freshman team. Instead some scrub from rice did just because we would have placed 3 on the team.

(06-07-2013 01:15 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Woodard did score about 0.4 pts less per game, he out rebounded and out assisted house

Technically true but come on by 0.2 and 1.0 respectively. If you really want to play that game House outscored him, he had a better 3pt %, had a better FT%, better FG%, etc. and in less time (all very close to Woodward but technically more....)

Woodward is a good player but its not the slam dunk you seem to think it is.

I saw both of them play multiple times (vs houston and all of the houston games in the tourney.) Woodard (No W) was the superior player... especially on the boards... averaging nearly 6 rebounds as a shooting guard during your freshman campaign is ridiculous. His scoring numbers would have been a bit better but he hurt his back midway through the season and have a couple single digit games along with a dnp. House was decent... but nothing to write home about... I thought Young played quite a bit better for Houston more consistently... I really couldn't believe House was listed as a top 100 (150?) recruit when I saw him play.

(06-07-2013 01:04 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I really couldn't believe House was listed as a top 100 (150?) recruit when I saw him play.

Everyones welcome to their opinion...

TOP 20 Recruit, btw.. but who's counting..

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/...use-107686

(06-07-2013 01:04 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I really couldn't believe House was listed as a top 100 (150?) recruit when I saw him play.

When did you see him play? He was a frosh last season and excelled down the stretch.

Houston has multiple pros on their team.

(06-07-2013 01:42 PM)ShockerBob Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 01:04 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I really couldn't believe House was listed as a top 100 (150?) recruit when I saw him play.

When did you see him play? He was a frosh last season and excelled down the stretch.

He was decent down the stretch. I saw the Tulsa at H-town game online (decent performance by both House and Woodard) as well as the triple over time game with a stupidly lucky shot at the end of regulation by some guard who's name I don't recall... (House fouled out of that game and played like a DII player... Woodard was decent after coming off of a dnp) Then I saw Houston's game against a really lousy Rice squad in which House played well, and then against a good UTEP team where House disappeared for long stretches. It was probably Tulsa and UTEP's game plan to get him out of rhythm; however, a top 20 player shouldn't be fouling out of games and completely disappearing in elimination games. Maybe I saw some of his more cruddy games, but the guy was not that impressive beyond his shear size. Is "Chicken" going to impress me more in years to come if he can keep his grades up?

Top 20 freshmen are still freshmen. Joe Jackson disappeared quite a bit his freshman year too (until the CUSA tourney). This past season, he dominated the league.

(06-07-2013 09:09 PM)transitt Wrote:  Top 20 freshmen are still freshmen. Joe Jackson disappeared quite a bit his freshman year too (until the CUSA tourney). This past season, he dominated the league.

That's well and good, but what I'm saying is, if you're going to disappear like that you shouldn't be labeled freshman of the year (or any kind of player of the year for that matter). Just as Joe Jackson wasn't ever freshman of the year. It went Deandre Kane, Ricky Tarrant, Danuel House. Jackson did pick up his game though from a rough freshman outing.

(06-09-2013 03:07 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 09:09 PM)transitt Wrote:  Top 20 freshmen are still freshmen. Joe Jackson disappeared quite a bit his freshman year too (until the CUSA tourney). This past season, he dominated the league.

That's well and good, but what I'm saying is, if you're going to disappear like that you shouldn't be labeled freshman of the year (or any kind of player of the year for that matter). Just as Joe Jackson wasn't ever freshman of the year. It went Deandre Kane, Ricky Tarrant, Danuel House. Jackson did pick up his game though from a rough freshman outing.

Hate to tell you, but Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans disappeared quite a bit, too. Joe didn't win FOY. However, he did win conference tourney MVP. I know you think your guy should have won MVP. That's fine. He'll have three more opportunities to win post season awards.

(06-09-2013 03:07 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 09:09 PM)transitt Wrote:  Top 20 freshmen are still freshmen. Joe Jackson disappeared quite a bit his freshman year too (until the CUSA tourney). This past season, he dominated the league.

That's well and good, but what I'm saying is, if you're going to disappear like that you shouldn't be labeled freshman of the year (or any kind of player of the year for that matter). Just as Joe Jackson wasn't ever freshman of the year. It went Deandre Kane, Ricky Tarrant, Danuel House. Jackson did pick up his game though from a rough freshman outing.

How did Woodward do in the games against Memphis? Don't remember him.....Harrelson was the only guy with much game from my memory. I do recall House having a decent game against us in the one meeting.

He should have stayed at Providence where he was first recruited!!!