(05-23-2013 07:11 AM)Bull Wrote:  

(05-22-2013 11:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-22-2013 07:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  It's a pay site si I can't post link but the Hawaii paper is saying that the Hawaii Bowl is looking to negotiate a new conference to replace CUSA vs the MWC and they happened to have a picture of June Jones in the article. Not a great bowl for fans but the players love it.

Aresco was asked if the AAC would consider bowls outside of its footprint. He said that the AAC would consider them and Hawaii was specifically mentioned in the comments. I still think its silly of us to guarantee our presence in a bunch of absolute crap bowls vs G5 opponents when we know for a fact that at as many as 5 power conference schools will be pulled from thier bowl line-up slots to participate in the CFP access bowls. That means 5 slots in better bowls will pop open every December. So while we would still be stuck sending teams to Birmingham and Shreveport---mid-tier Sunbelt and MAC teams will be sliding into P5 slots in places like Houston, Charlotte, or Nashville. I'd rather cover our bottom 2 or 3 teams with guaranteed slots in New Orleans, St Pete, Annapolis, or Hawaii (Im fine with cutting Birmingham loose). Now, your bottom teams are protected--yes they are crap bowls--but at least they are in fun places. The we send our #1 to our new bowl in Florida, maybe our #2 to Memphis if we can get the Liberty. Save our middle 2 or 3 picks (its only 3 picks if the Liberty Bowl goes to the B12 vs SEC) for backup duty in P5 bowls. You could end up with something like this most years

Aresco Bowl
Liberty
Texan Bowl (Houston, Meineke dropped the sponsorship)
Music City
Beefy
New Orleans
Hawaii

You know, this is not half bad at all... If we keep a P5 in the Liberty, can get P5 in the Houston and Miami bowls (both should pay well and are in huge markets/stadiums), that's a great top half. The bottom filler bowls are in great locations (Florida, Hawaii, New Orleans).

Getting Houston would be a major coup, over say the AFB in FW. I had not heard Meineke pulled out, they only sponsored for about 2 years, after making that big switch from Charlotte? Too bad.

Well, that's my point. We could never get the Houston Bowl---we would be in that bowl because the SEC or Big12 didn't fill it becuae it ran out of teams due to having teams selected for the playoff. If we had signed what we can get, rather than playing as a backup in Hoiston, we'd be stuck in Birmingham playing a Sunbelt or mid-level MAC team (remember back up teams would also be in Birminham) because, as stated earlier, the SEC wouldn't have teams for that bowl either. I'm just suggesting we think a step or two ahead of the game with a little deductive reasoning. We know the playoffs will will claim 5 P5 teams that will leave behind slots in bowl games better than anything we can probably land.

Hasn't it been rumored that the Liberty will be American v Big 12? Wouldnt that qualify as being similar or better than CUSA and the MWC.

MWC has an advantage with being the only game in town on the West Coast outside of the PAC-12...and the PAC only has 12 whereas the American is fighting with 14 in the ACC, SEC and B1G.

I can't see CUSA retaining the Hawaii...but it makes sense for the MWC to retain it (w/Hawaii in tow) so they will first ask the Power 5 conferences and then move on to the American.

The new Miami bowl idea is interesting, but I see it ending up with CUSA and not a Power 5...CUSA has FAU and FIU available and will be hard pressed to sell them to any other Bowls.

ajerseyguy.com seems to think that the American will be playing the PAC-12 in Texas. Also, Memphis is now favorite for the first basketball tournament. It looks like the Palestra is going to be rejected for all the reasons stated earlier

(05-23-2013 08:35 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  ajerseyguy.com seems to think that the American will be playing the PAC-12 in Texas. Also, Memphis is now favorite for the first basketball tournament. It looks like the Palestra is going to be rejected for all the reasons stated earlier

Yeah I saw that, and I think the PAC and/or BYU are the obvious choices to get a good bowl opponent, whether in Texas or Florida. The PAC is the 1 P5 league that seems to either have the want or need to play G5 bowl games. I'd rather the new bowl game be in the east just for my own selfish reasons, but if it ended up being in Texas against the PAC that would be a big positive for the league.

(05-23-2013 08:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(05-23-2013 08:35 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  ajerseyguy.com seems to think that the American will be playing the PAC-12 in Texas. Also, Memphis is now favorite for the first basketball tournament. It looks like the Palestra is going to be rejected for all the reasons stated earlier

Yeah I saw that, and I think the PAC and/or BYU are the obvious choices to get a good bowl opponent, whether in Texas or Florida. The PAC is the 1 P5 league that seems to either have the want or need to play G5 bowl games. I'd rather the new bowl game be in the east just for my own selfish reasons, but if it ended up being in Texas against the PAC that would be a big positive for the league.

At this point, it seems that getting the Liberty Bowl is the only chance of having a bowl lineup that doesn't consist only of bottom feeder bowls.

(05-22-2013 07:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  ..... the Hawaii paper is saying that the Hawaii Bowl is looking to negotiate a new conference to replace CUSA vs the MWC and they happened to have a picture of June Jones in the article. Not a great bowl for fans but the players love it.

The Hawaii Bowl is very good for exposure (good date and time slot) and recruiting. The AAC should grab it if there is a chance.

(05-22-2013 11:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I still think its silly of us to guarantee our presence in a bunch of absolute crap bowls vs G5 opponents when we know for a fact that at as many as 5 power conference schools will be pulled from thier bowl line-up slots to participate in the CFP access bowls. That means 5 slots in better bowls will pop open every December. So while we would still be stuck sending teams to Birmingham and Shreveport---mid-tier Sunbelt and MAC teams will be sliding into P5 slots in places like Houston, Charlotte, or Nashville. I'd rather cover our bottom 2 or 3 teams with guaranteed slots in New Orleans, St Pete, Annapolis, or Hawaii (Im fine with cutting Birmingham loose). Now, your bottom teams are protected--yes they are crap bowls--but at least they are in fun places. The we send our #1 to our new bowl in Florida, maybe our #2 to Memphis if we can get the Liberty. Save our middle 2 or 3 picks (its only 3 picks if the Liberty Bowl goes to the B12 vs SEC) for backup duty in P5 bowls.

I usually agree with you, but on this, I say "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush".

(05-22-2013 11:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I still think its silly of us to guarantee our presence in a bunch of absolute crap bowls vs G5 opponents when we know for a fact that at as many as 5 power conference schools will be pulled from thier bowl line-up slots to participate in the CFP access bowls.

Great point.

I like the Hawaii bowl just because pony fans melts like crazy over it