(03-24-2013 12:12 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 11:15 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  What is "Big East style" and what is "ACC style"? Because the style of UNC/Duke isn't the style of much of the rest of the conference.

In the Big East refs tend to let a lot go. Grabbing, swatting, bumping, etc.

Look at the Big East championship game as an example. In the 2nd half Louisville turned up the heat and got away with a lot.

Louisville didn't do anyone thing wrong nor against the rules for you play the way the refs are dictating the game, and if they are calling it tight or loose then that is the way you play. The game no matter what people say is always dictated by how the offiicals call the game not how talented one team is verse another team. Yes you have teams that are more talented than others who shouldn't have any issues with, BUT if the officials ate calling it one way and not in your favor or strength you need to adjust and play to the officiating.

Maybe if the NCAA would incorporate officiating across the board instead of each conference we might actually see a decent officiated game here and there, but no we keep seeing games being played out due to how the officials are calling a game. Syracuse getting robbed what a joke for I can jot wait till are next meeting year after next we will see then who gets robbed. LOL

Agree with the need for more centralized officiating. There shouldn't be a difference between one conference's officiating style vs. another. Hurts the players in the end because they don't know what will be called in the NCAAs.

(03-24-2013 09:37 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 12:12 AM)krux Wrote:  The title of this thread should read "Pitt, Dixon agree to long term mediocrity extension"

I don't see how you can call a team that wins over 70% of its games "mediocre", even without any championships to go with it. Would that be acceptable at Louisville, UNC, or Duke? Probably not. But as one person already stated, Pitt was not very good before the current coaching regime began, so I think each program needs to be realistic. I know I'd take 70% wins and 11 NCAA trips in 12 years at Va Tech right now!

I agree with Hokie Mark here. Ousting a good coach never seems to be a good idea unless your Auburn football. I would be more than happy to sign Frank Beamer up for a 10 year deal even though his record in BCS games hasn't been great.

And I doubt they signed him up for 10 years without some reasonable buy outs. No one commits to paying a full 10 years any more.

I'm alright with extending Dixon. I think this was a really long deal for someone who has shown an inability to win big in the postseason but all in all I think he's a good coach and I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.

(03-24-2013 03:34 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 12:12 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Look at the Big East championship game as an example. In the 2nd half Louisville turned up the heat and got away with a lot.

i.e. Syracuse got smacked in the mouth and folded like a cheap paper suit.

I smell a new hotly contested rivalry developing. That said, I hope we meet up in the final 4. I think that SU is the only team that can beat the Cards

(03-24-2013 07:17 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 03:34 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 12:12 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Look at the Big East championship game as an example. In the 2nd half Louisville turned up the heat and got away with a lot.

i.e. Syracuse got smacked in the mouth and folded like a cheap paper suit.

I smell a new hotly contested rivalry developing. That said, I hope we meet up in the final 4. I think that SU is the only team that can beat the Cards

I agree...but a difference. This rivalry is built on mutual respect unlike some rivalries we had in the old BE.

(03-24-2013 11:14 AM)krux Wrote:  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Dixon. I just think a 10 years extension for him is ridiculous. Go 5. Why lock yourself down for so long with a coach that sucks in the postseason. Now that we're all ACC and you guys have the regular season success, your brand name has been built. Hedge your bets a little, offer a 5 years extension and when it comes time to renew that contract you can look around for fresh blood or keep him if he's improved.

Here's the thing, no one has any idea what the out clauses are, for either side, on this contract.

Apparently USC was offering 10 years. Pitt is also on the verge of a big administrative turnover, starting with the chancellor of the university and that will almost assuredly result in a new athletic director. Dixon is very tight with the chancellor and AD. His parents are in LA and his father has been in poor health restricting his travel (Dixon is very very close to his father ...he was best man in Jamie's wedding). I'm not shocked at all by the 10 year deal. I fully support it in fact. I say that as both a fan and as someone that has been previously involved with Pitt's basketball program prior to Dixon.

The other poster also nailed the reality of understanding what Pitt is, and that is a very good program that is still building a reputation, but it is not a national blue blood with loads of cash like Duke, UNC, SU, and UL. We aren't going to get a Stevens or Smart. We can't just go out and buy any pedigreed coach we want from a power conference like a Louisville or Kentucky. Sean Miller, an alumnus, was far from a guaranteed get...far, and that was about as big of a hire as you'd could realistically talk about. You start rolling the dice on someone else in the name of more tournament success and you risk losing the consistent competitiveness that at least puts you within striking distance ever year. The fate of a program like St Johns or Maryland, who have had way more success in the NCAAs and far better recruiting back yards, is far more likely than hiring the next Pitino or even Dixon. You look at the programs that have built themselves into the top echelon, they have one thing in common: keeping good coaches long term... Denny Crum, Jim Boeheim, Jim Calhoun... All that Dixon is missing from his resume is a couple final fours and national championship and he is only 47. And if he gets that, then Pitt can start acting more like a Louisville.

And no, I'm not concerned in the least about his ability to compete in the ACC.

(03-24-2013 08:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Pitt is also on the verge of a big administrative turnover, starting with the chancellor of the university and that will almost assuredly result in a new athletic director.

Whoa, waitaminit! Did I miss something? What's going on w/ Pitt?

Nordenberg is retiring soon. Nobody else can stand Pederson so it's assumed he'll get shown the door.

(03-24-2013 07:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:17 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 03:34 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 12:12 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Look at the Big East championship game as an example. In the 2nd half Louisville turned up the heat and got away with a lot.

i.e. Syracuse got smacked in the mouth and folded like a cheap paper suit.

I smell a new hotly contested rivalry developing. That said, I hope we meet up in the final 4. I think that SU is the only team that can beat the Cards

I agree...but a difference. This rivalry is built on mutual respect unlike some rivalries we had in the old BE.

This is 100% correct. The budding Syracuse rivalry has quickly become my favorite. Of course nothing will supplant UK but that one is based in hate. WVU started to become a rival but once again...hate. Cincy is the closest thing we've had to a respected rival and they just don't carry the same cache as 'Cuse.

(03-24-2013 09:51 PM)ndlutz Wrote:  Nordenberg is retiring soon. Nobody else can stand Pederson so it's assumed he'll get shown the door.

What is the time table on Nordy's retirement anyway? I am hearing from some circles that it is still a year or two away and from others as early as this summer?

As far as a new chancellor... have there been any thoughts on where Pitt might look for a replacement? Will Nordy be involved?

(03-23-2013 11:26 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Through March 17th...

Big East All-Time Winningest Coaches (% of conference regular season and conference tournament games)
Jamie Dixon .658
Jim Boeheim .654
John Thompson .653
Rick Pitino .653

That ended as a tight race.

(03-25-2013 12:06 PM)7fielder Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 09:51 PM)ndlutz Wrote:  Nordenberg is retiring soon. Nobody else can stand Pederson so it's assumed he'll get shown the door.

What is the time table on Nordy's retirement anyway? I am hearing from some circles that it is still a year or two away and from others as early as this summer?

As far as a new chancellor... have there been any thoughts on where Pitt might look for a replacement? Will Nordy be involved?

There's nothing definitive as far as a timetable. It is at his leisure but it will be sooner than later. Nordenberg will certainly have some influence. He will still be around Pitt as Chancellor Emeritus after he retires.

(03-24-2013 11:55 PM)krux Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:17 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 03:34 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 12:12 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Look at the Big East championship game as an example. In the 2nd half Louisville turned up the heat and got away with a lot.

i.e. Syracuse got smacked in the mouth and folded like a cheap paper suit.

I smell a new hotly contested rivalry developing. That said, I hope we meet up in the final 4. I think that SU is the only team that can beat the Cards

I agree...but a difference. This rivalry is built on mutual respect unlike some rivalries we had in the old BE.

This is 100% correct. The budding Syracuse rivalry has quickly become my favorite. Of course nothing will supplant UK but that one is based in hate. WVU started to become a rival but once again...hate. Cincy is the closest thing we've had to a respected rival and they just don't carry the same cache as 'Cuse.

My only complaint is we don't wear cheap suits. We didn't handle L'Villes press like I had hoped but we are definitely well dressed. I look forward to the Orange vs. Cardinals rivalry deepening!!!

King of the regular season. NCAA flame-out artist.

Pitt had no choice, but if any other program like UCLA hired the guy, they would be out of their minds.

It could be worse though. J Thompson III is the only coach in history to lose in 5 consecutive tourneys to a team seeded at least 5 seeds lower than them. Now THAT'S a tourney flame-out artist.

But to be fair, I'm a Memphis fan and Pastner seems to be following in their footsteps (so far, at least).