1. The seven non-FBS Big East schools have always wanted to exit for the 2013-14 season if they could get out in time and the TV deal -- with Fox -- was done. The problem is they can’t and don’t want to leave, according to a high-level source within the seven, until they have secured the other three schools to be a 10-team league. The seven are confident, though, that they can extract three schools (likely Butler, Xavier and one other) on short notice. The Atlantic 10 confirmed that it would cost each school $2 million to get out early, money that won’t be an issue for the seven and Fox to offset. The logistics of setting up a league, including soccer in August, are what could keep the seven in the Big East until the fall of 2014.

(02-28-2013 09:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  1. The seven non-FBS Big East schools have always wanted to exit for the 2013-14 season if they could get out in time and the TV deal -- with Fox -- was done. The problem is they can’t and don’t want to leave, according to a high-level source within the seven, until they have secured the other three schools to be a 10-team league. The seven are confident, though, that they can extract three schools (likely Butler, Xavier and one other) on short notice. The Atlantic 10 confirmed that it would cost each school $2 million to get out early, money that won’t be an issue for the seven and Fox to offset. The logistics of setting up a league, including soccer in August, are what could keep the seven in the Big East until the fall of 2014.

Well we knew that. The sports that are starting up in mere months are our biggest hurdle.

(02-28-2013 11:26 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  1. The seven non-FBS Big East schools have always wanted to exit for the 2013-14 season if they could get out in time and the TV deal -- with Fox -- was done. The problem is they can’t and don’t want to leave, according to a high-level source within the seven, until they have secured the other three schools to be a 10-team league. The seven are confident, though, that they can extract three schools (likely Butler, Xavier and one other) on short notice. The Atlantic 10 confirmed that it would cost each school $2 million to get out early, money that won’t be an issue for the seven and Fox to offset. The logistics of setting up a league, including soccer in August, are what could keep the seven in the Big East until the fall of 2014.

Well we knew that. The sports that are starting up in mere months are our biggest hurdle.

After reading that I had a thought that our friends over on the Big East board would choke on, but the presidents and ADs might feel differently.

Could soccer, and possibly another early sport or two, operate for a year as Affiliate MEmbers of the Aresco LEague? I've never looked over what nonrevenue sports they would lose or keep, but do we have any sports that they're going to lose, where we could house some of their teams?

(02-28-2013 11:31 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 11:26 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  1. The seven non-FBS Big East schools have always wanted to exit for the 2013-14 season if they could get out in time and the TV deal -- with Fox -- was done. The problem is they can’t and don’t want to leave, according to a high-level source within the seven, until they have secured the other three schools to be a 10-team league. The seven are confident, though, that they can extract three schools (likely Butler, Xavier and one other) on short notice. The Atlantic 10 confirmed that it would cost each school $2 million to get out early, money that won’t be an issue for the seven and Fox to offset. The logistics of setting up a league, including soccer in August, are what could keep the seven in the Big East until the fall of 2014.

Well we knew that. The sports that are starting up in mere months are our biggest hurdle.

After reading that I had a thought that our friends over on the Big East board would choke on, but the presidents and ADs might feel differently.

Could soccer, and possibly another early sport or two, operate for a year as Affiliate MEmbers of the Aresco LEague? I've never looked over what nonrevenue sports they would lose or keep, but do we have any sports that they're going to lose, where we could house some of their teams?

I don't see it happening.

I could see though the selection of teams impacted by the sports offered. I mean- say team x and team y(not referring to Xavier)- are viewed by us as nearly equal- team x offers a sport we need and team y doesn't- that making the difference. It'd be interesting to see the sports played by the candidates (and current c7 teams)- and see if there's 1-2 clues that would help figure out that angle.

(02-28-2013 09:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  1. The seven non-FBS Big East schools have always wanted to exit for the 2013-14 season if they could get out in time and the TV deal -- with Fox -- was done. The problem is they can’t and don’t want to leave, according to a high-level source within the seven, until they have secured the other three schools to be a 10-team league. The seven are confident, though, that they can extract three schools (likely Butler, Xavier and one other) on short notice. The Atlantic 10 confirmed that it would cost each school $2 million to get out early, money that won’t be an issue for the seven and Fox to offset. The logistics of setting up a league, including soccer in August, are what could keep the seven in the Big East until the fall of 2014.

So one option would be for BU, XU and one other to pay exit fees and join. I've seen on the message boards that A-10 would be $2 million for short-term notice and $1 million with long-term notice. MVC would be $500k. Under this scenario, the exit fees would be as follows:

BU - $2 million
XU - $2 million
3rd team - $500k (Creighton) - $2 million (A-10)
4th team - $500k (Creighton) - $1 million (A-10)
5th team - $1 million (A-10)

Total - $6.5 million to $8 million

Assmuing Fox pays $30 million for 10 teams, the C7 get the BE name, the A-10 fee is smaller for longer-term exit, Creighton is getting an invite, ND is looking to leave the Aresco League early and the C7 are assisting new members with exit fees, could the C7 do the following in a cost-saving move for 1 year:

1) Invite Creighton for $500k
2) Invite one of XU/BU for $2 million
3) Invite ND for one year (let them make $1 million), with no entrance/exit fee. There have been rumblings about their options should the C7 leave after this year.
4) Invite the remaining 3 for the 2014-2015 season at a cost of $1 million each.

Under this scenario, the exit fees would be as follows:

CU - $500k
BU/XU - $2 million
3rd team - $1 million
4th team - $1 million
5th team - $1 million

Total Impact = $5.5 million cost + $2 million additional conference revenue for ND's partial revenue take ($3 million per school vs $1 million for ND) for a net cost of $3.5 million. Generates a $3 million - $4.5 million savings in a rush year.

ND for 1 year is not the same as UC or UConn because everyone knows ND is going to the ACC while UC/UConn would be looking to leave. It also only takes 1 from the A-10 with short notice, which makes the presidents feel more responsible in realignment. Then the conference is a full go in 2014.

just looking-
Men's soccer- all played in A10 except for Butler
Women's soccer- all played
Field Hockey- Richmond, SLU, VCU all played
Volleyball- all but Richmond played