(02-27-2013 07:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 06:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  So do the incoming schools get zero if the c7 leaves in 2013? This sounds like a disaster for UCF. We lose the Big East name and playing the C7 without $$?

This is why I say the incoming schools need to act in concert to say enough is enough. Do this, and we all walk. Have fun in your 4 team league.

Sounds nice, but where exactly would any of us go? C-USA has backfilled to the point of no return and I don't think the MWC wants to add all of us.

We would cherry pick the MAC-A10-CUSA to add the that core.

Ohio, UMASS, USM, Miami?

It could be done, especially if we were to rebrand (since we'd be starting from scratch anyway).

Houston
SMU
Memphis
Tulane
UCF
Temple
ECU
NAVY
Ohio
Southern Miss
UMASS
Miami (OH)

OMG. Can we frickin stop all these end of the world sky is falling they are screwing me posts.

Sure it could, but then you have no auto bid, no TV deal, no bowl tie ins, no guaranteed Gang of 5 access, and probably a host of other issues.

Again the "Acclaimed" sports writer doesn't proof read his article..............

Quote:The Big East also will receive considerably more than that from the NCAA for its success in the highly profitable NCAA men’s basketball tournament.

The 10 schools–the Catholic 7, plus South Florida, Central Florida and Connecticut–would receive a substantial amount of that money.

I assume he meant Cincinnati.

(02-27-2013 05:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If the existing voting schools sell the name and pocket the money then all the incoming schools should tell them to FO and just stay in their present leagues. I'm sick of every decision being made in manner that throws the new schools under the bus. I hope the new schools let them know that if they do this we will all just stay put and let the selfish schools twist in a 4 team league next year. If this happens, I hope our administration tells them to pound sand. Enough is a e-friggin-nuff.

Agreed. I've said before that the incoming schools are paying hard earned money in exit and entrance fees to join the BIG EAST. It just about doesn't matter what schools that includes anymore, so long as it's the BIG EAST. None of the new schools signed on to become Conference America or the New Metro or whatever they can come up with. If the C7 take the Big East name and Cincy, UConn, USF and maybe Temple are the only ones voting or allowing that to happen, then IMHO one of two things ought to happen.

1. All entrance fees should be reduced to zero since we aren't technically joining the BE anymore.

or

2. If Cincy, UConn, USF, Temple are the ones making the dough from the selling of the BE name, then they can go form their own conference with whoever they want and like you say F'off at that point.

Just seems like some type of breach of contract to me.

This gets better every day.
We pay entrance fees and exit fees out the wazoo, everyone else gets windfall payouts. For that we get a pitiful TV deal and a no name conference that still viewed as the leftover dysfunctional remnants of a former conference.
The CUSA-6 need to band together and decide what's the best course of action for our little group. Acting together we may have a little clout in this situation.

(02-27-2013 06:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  So do the incoming schools get zero if the c7 leaves in 2013? This sounds like a disaster for UCF. We lose the Big East name and playing the C7 without $$?

It sure looks that way, which is NOT what we signed up for. In Memphis case, we pay $6.6m to leave CUSA, plus $2.5m to join the Big ???? is 9.1 million dollars to make the move. $20m divided by 12 schools is $1.666m each per year. We would have the right to play the same f'n schools we play now for six years just to get our money back?

Can anybody explain to me how this is a good deal?

Should anyone be surprised Cincy and UCONN would want to do this? Their hope is they can cash in and then get out and leave the rest of us to pick up the scraps.

(02-27-2013 07:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 06:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  So do the incoming schools get zero if the c7 leaves in 2013? This sounds like a disaster for UCF. We lose the Big East name and playing the C7 without $$?

This is why I say the incoming schools need to act in concert to say enough is enough. Do this, and we all walk. Have fun in your 4 team league.

Sounds nice, but where exactly would any of us go? C-USA has backfilled to the point of no return and I don't think the MWC wants to add all of us.

Back out of BE.

Form a new Conference.

Invite Tulsa, SMiss, Marshall, UAB with zero entrance fees plus the 6 getting sh*t on and have a 10 team conference.

If the Big East name is gone and the TV money is like getting an extra dollar back in change from buying this Turd Sandwich then we might as well be CUSA again..............but just called something different.

Cincinnati, UConn, and USF are the schools that should receive the money because they are parties most likely damaged from the exits. The new schools are still getting paid better than before with access to the bowl system next year plus as part of the GO5.

When Cincinnati, UConn, and USF leave they will pay the new member and give up their share of the earnings.

(02-27-2013 07:33 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Cincinnati, UConn, and USF are the schools that should receive the money because they are parties most likely damaged from the exits. The new schools are still getting paid better than before with access to the bowl system next year plus as part of the GO5.

When Cincinnati, UConn, and USF leave they will pay the new member and give up their share of the earnings.

Yeah once you've cashed all the valuable assets you'll leave us with the crap TV deal and some crappy new name we didn't sign up for.

One other thing. Rutgers and Louisville will be here next season, Notre Dame too. An 11 team league with 20 conference games would be pretty awesome.

This UC fan thinks a home conference schedule with Notre Dame, Memphis, Louisville, Temple, UConn, Houston, USF, UCF, SMU, and Rutgers is better than our current home schedule this season that didn't include Louisville or Syracuse.

(02-27-2013 07:30 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 06:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  So do the incoming schools get zero if the c7 leaves in 2013? This sounds like a disaster for UCF. We lose the Big East name and playing the C7 without $$?

This is why I say the incoming schools need to act in concert to say enough is enough. Do this, and we all walk. Have fun in your 4 team league.

Sounds nice, but where exactly would any of us go? C-USA has backfilled to the point of no return and I don't think the MWC wants to add all of us.

Back out of BE.

Form a new Conference.

Invite Tulsa, SMiss, Marshall, UAB with zero entrance fees plus the 6 getting sh*t on and have a 10 team conference.

If the Big East name is gone and the TV money is like getting an extra dollar back in change from buying this Turd Sandwich then we might as well be CUSA again..............but just called something different.

Also since the Big East TV money is so low the exit fees the six incoming CUSA schools would have to pay the exiting Big East would "only" be 1 million each. Umm maybe that's just another part of the existing conference member's grand plan before they all leave for different conferences.

(02-27-2013 07:30 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 06:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  So do the incoming schools get zero if the c7 leaves in 2013? This sounds like a disaster for UCF. We lose the Big East name and playing the C7 without $$?

This is why I say the incoming schools need to act in concert to say enough is enough. Do this, and we all walk. Have fun in your 4 team league.

Sounds nice, but where exactly would any of us go? C-USA has backfilled to the point of no return and I don't think the MWC wants to add all of us.

Back out of BE.

Form a new Conference.

Invite Tulsa, SMiss, Marshall, UAB with zero entrance fees plus the 6 getting sh*t on and have a 10 team conference.

If the Big East name is gone and the TV money is like getting an extra dollar back in change from buying this Turd Sandwich then we might as well be CUSA again..............but just called something different.

What about taking over the Sun Belt? aren't they losing 4+ schools?

I'm for UCF bailing on the Big East if this happens. Hell we can group the original 12 c-usa teams again if needed. The Big East would be down to 4 members that need to play by our rules.

Just when you think things can't get worse.

The good teams leave in 2013.

The C7 get the BE name.

Ouch!

(02-27-2013 07:33 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Cincinnati, UConn, and USF are the schools that should receive the money because they are parties most likely damaged from the exits. The new schools are still getting paid better than before with access to the bowl system next year plus as part of the GO5.

When Cincinnati, UConn, and USF leave they will pay the new member and give up their share of the earnings.

Not true. The new a schools agreed to join a conference named the Big East making 10 million a year with 13 schools that are not going to be there. We agreed to pay 9 million in entry and exit fees to join it. We didn't pay to be part of some vacant shell after the going out of business garage sale is over. Im starting to wonder if maybe a deal has been worked where UConn, Cinci, and Temple are heading to C-7. That would certainly make it easy for the C7 to start in 2013 and it would explain why the ESPN deal is still sitting unsigned on the presidents bed side tables like a bunch of half read People magazines.

(02-27-2013 07:38 PM)nastar36 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:30 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 06:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  So do the incoming schools get zero if the c7 leaves in 2013? This sounds like a disaster for UCF. We lose the Big East name and playing the C7 without $$?

This is why I say the incoming schools need to act in concert to say enough is enough. Do this, and we all walk. Have fun in your 4 team league.

Sounds nice, but where exactly would any of us go? C-USA has backfilled to the point of no return and I don't think the MWC wants to add all of us.

Back out of BE.

Form a new Conference.

Invite Tulsa, SMiss, Marshall, UAB with zero entrance fees plus the 6 getting sh*t on and have a 10 team conference.

If the Big East name is gone and the TV money is like getting an extra dollar back in change from buying this Turd Sandwich then we might as well be CUSA again..............but just called something different.

What about taking over the Sun Belt? aren't they losing 4+ schools?

I believe they have 7 remaining, but CUSA was likely to take one more (WKU) if and when Tulsa made their way over to the BE. That would have left them with 6. If I were Tulsa, I'd hold fast until the MwC called, which maybe they are anyway.

Some of you are way overplaying the leverage of the new schools right now. A new league is not going to be formed, and going back to C-USA is such a disgusting option that it's not going to happen. Now if the 3 remaining try to pull this crap once the new schools join then they could start shoving through things that would work against those 3, but other than that if those 3 want to dick over the new members they pretty much can and the rest of us have to take it.

(02-27-2013 07:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 07:33 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Cincinnati, UConn, and USF are the schools that should receive the money because they are parties most likely damaged from the exits. The new schools are still getting paid better than before with access to the bowl system next year plus as part of the GO5.

When Cincinnati, UConn, and USF leave they will pay the new member and give up their share of the earnings.

Not true. The new a schools agreed to join a conference namwd the Big East making 10 million a year with 13 schools that are not going to be there. We agrees to pay 9 million in entry and exit fees to join it. We didn't pay to be part of some vacant shell after the going out of business garage sale is over.