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The ACC American Cafe
From this morning's Hartford Courant:

The Atlantic coast conference is spreading its brand into the restaurant business. The ACC American cafe is set t open at Raleigh-Durham International Airport next year, as the conference partners with HMS Host for an upscale restaurant that will offer "farm-to-market" dishes and entrees inspired by the home cities of ACC teams, according to the airport's announcement.

Does this sound like a conference whose core members are thinking of abandoning ship and fleeing to the Big Ten?

In a humorous side not, the article goes on to say:

We're not sure if they're already taking reservations, but we know some folks around here are waiting to hear, "UConn party, your table is ready now."
02-24-2013 10:21 AM
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Oh right. Because they are starting a restaurant in a mid-to-low volume airport, that will be the great equalizer in conference revenue between them and the B1G/SEC/XII. Sure.

The real questions are: how much do you have to pay to leave? Or do you have to take your bill to court to get a settlement?
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(02-24-2013 10:42 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Oh right. Because they are starting a restaurant in a mid-to-low volume airport, that will be the great equalizer in conference revenue between them and the B1G/SEC/XII. Sure.

The real questions are: how much do you have to pay to leave? Or do you have to take your bill to court to get a settlement?

I've been a big believer in the lure of the Big Ten/CIC and that it couldn't be resisted. Now I don't know.

It's not just the restaurant by itself. This would appear to be the first step in a marketing program initiated with the support of the membership. It's likely the first step in a series of similar enterprises.

Big Ten interest in the elite academic schools of the ACC has been long known. Who goes out and initiates this kind of marketing commitment in their own backyard if they're seriously thinking of leaving?

It just doesn't add up to me.
02-24-2013 11:14 AM
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Over 50% of all new restaurants go out of business in the first year. It's a risky proposition at best...

Watch out for the special; the Hurricane Hoodwink, with side orders of Clemson Convert and Tiger Take-off, and a Seminole Split...
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Clemson fans won't eat there because the ACC cafe is not committed to farfalle!
02-24-2013 11:53 AM
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I hope they aren't naming dishes after any member schools like Virginia veal or Florida state fettuccine.
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i would guess they will have foods that is a specialty item that is made in a teams particular teams region
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1. I hear the best item on the menu is a dish from Louisville-- just ask their fans, they'll tell you.
2. Careful about the Miami dish, the health department wanted to take it off the menu but it got off on a technicality.
3, The FSU dish was good back in the 80s and 90s, but it hasn't been all that in a long time.
4. The co-chef for the Syracuse dish allegedly likes young boys and his wife is a little crazy too.
5. Pitt has had about 6 new chefs in the past 2-3 years.
6. The UNC chef actually changed the ingredients in his dish. No worry, he changed everyone else's too.
7. Some guy named Vitale got caught sticking his junk in the Duke Apple Pie.
8. Nobody ever buys the BC and Wake Forest dish.
9. The Virginia dish has a nice presentation and all the food critics rank it among the elite, but the Tech dish is more popular in Virginia because it taste a lot better.
10. Before the restaurant opened everyone thought their dish at NC State was absolutely delicious, but when it mattered it never lived up to its potential.
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(02-24-2013 12:35 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  7. Some guy named Vitale got caught sticking his junk in the Duke Apple Pie.

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(02-24-2013 12:35 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  1. I hear the best item on the menu is a dish from Louisville-- just ask their fans, they'll tell you.
2. Careful about the Miami dish, the health department wanted to take it off the menu but it got off on a technicality.
3, The FSU dish was good back in the 80s and 90s, but it hasn't been all that in a long time.
4. The co-chef for the Syracuse dish allegedly likes young boys and his wife is a little crazy too.
5. Pitt has had about 6 new chefs in the past 2-3 years.
6. The UNC chef actually changed the ingredients in his dish. No worry, he changed everyone else's too.
7. Some guy named Vitale got caught sticking his junk in the Duke Apple Pie.
8. Nobody ever buys the BC and Wake Forest dish.
9. The Virginia dish has a nice presentation and all the food critics rank it among the elite, but the Tech dish is more popular in Virginia because it taste a lot better.
10. Before the restaurant opened everyone thought their dish at NC State was absolutely delicious, but when it mattered it never lived up to its potential.

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Is a GOR on the menu?

Grilled Reuben with onion soup.
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The Irish stew only comes half full.
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(02-24-2013 11:14 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I've been a big believer in the lure of the Big Ten/CIC and that it couldn't be resisted. Now I don't know.

It's because there are MANY variables involved in such moves. The same people that said UVA "couldn't resist" the B1G/CIC are the same people that said KU wouldn't even be interested in talking to the B1G/CIC. Those statements don't jive but the hillbillies (and other small B12 schools like Baylor) keep repeating them. I think we know why.

(02-24-2013 11:14 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  It's not just the restaurant by itself. This would appear to be the first step in a marketing program initiated with the support of the membership. It's likely the first step in a series of similar enterprises.

Big Ten interest in the elite academic schools of the ACC has been long known. Who goes out and initiates this kind of marketing commitment in their own backyard if they're seriously thinking of leaving?

It just doesn't add up to me.

You are becoming a very wise man. I've been saying the same thing for months and no one has been able answer it. Why would schools start ventures like this if they intended to leave soon? Likewise, why would schools willingly vote for a $50 million exit fee if they just intended to leave? Why would every ACC school sign off on the conference aggressively seeking every penny in exit money from Maryland if they intended to leave soon too? When McMurphy says he wouldn't be surprised if something happens they cling to it like he just said something was happening. On the other hand, when Teal says there is absolutely no interest from UVA they say he's a dolt that's being purposely lied to and mis-lead for sneaky reasons. C'mon.

NONE of it makes sense. And this non-sensical babble seems to come from those who are most desperate. You've got to remember that. This whole thing has become a source of amusement. How so many people would ignore the blatant and obvious and continue to cling to the speculatory and unreliable has been amazing to watch. The inevitable meltdown is going to be epic. Let's just watch it unfold 04-cheers
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(02-24-2013 02:51 PM)x97 Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 11:14 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I've been a big believer in the lure of the Big Ten/CIC and that it couldn't be resisted. Now I don't know.

It's because there are MANY variables involved in such moves. The same people that said UVA "couldn't resist" the B1G/CIC are the same people that said KU wouldn't even be interested in talking to the B1G/CIC. Those statements don't jive but the hillbillies (and other small B12 schools like Baylor) keep repeating them. I think we know why.

(02-24-2013 11:14 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  It's not just the restaurant by itself. This would appear to be the first step in a marketing program initiated with the support of the membership. It's likely the first step in a series of similar enterprises.

Big Ten interest in the elite academic schools of the ACC has been long known. Who goes out and initiates this kind of marketing commitment in their own backyard if they're seriously thinking of leaving?

It just doesn't add up to me.

You are becoming a very wise man. I've been saying the same thing for months and no one has been able answer it. Why would schools start ventures like this if they intended to leave soon? Likewise, why would schools willingly vote for a $50 million exit fee if they just intended to leave? Why would every ACC school sign off on the conference aggressively seeking every penny in exit money from Maryland if they intended to leave soon too? When McMurphy says he wouldn't be surprised if something happens they cling to it like he just said something was happening. On the other hand, when Teal says there is absolutely no interest from UVA they say he's a dolt that's being purposely lied to and mis-lead for sneaky reasons. C'mon.

NONE of it makes sense. And this non-sensical babble seems to come from those who are most desperate. You've got to remember that. This whole thing has become a source of amusement. How so many people would ignore the blatant and obvious and continue to cling to the speculatory and unreliable has been amazing to watch. The inevitable meltdown is going to be epic. Let's just watch it unfold COGS

It is kind of like when people believe in reincarnation. No one was ever a peasent or private. They were always an emperor or a general.COGS
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This is small potatoes. I doubt that there’s any ACC investment involved. Likely, it’s just a licensing deal.

Whereas the B10 started a network for content distribution in key major markets, the ACC has countered by licensing its name to an eatery at a third-tier (in flight volume) airport. One approach is strategic (increasing revenue and branding by expanding sports content distribution), the other is gimmicky (increasing revenue and branding by moving into the airport food market). In terms of prognosticating conference alignment outcomes, I would not weigh much significance on this development.

One thing is certain – the decision to jump from one major conference to another involves a complex array of variable considerations (I just don’t believe this is one). Unless you’re the administration of UConn or UCincy considering an offer to join the ACC, no such decision is made on the quick. A UNC to B10 type decision would be socialized and vetted among dozens of constituencies over months.
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(02-24-2013 11:42 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Over 50% of all new restaurants go out of business in the first year. It's a risky proposition at best...

Watch out for the special; the Hurricane Hoodwink, with side orders of Clemson Convert and Tiger Take-off, and a Seminole Split...

This reminded me of the restaurant WWF launched in Times Square back when they had more money then they had any idea what to do with.

It did not succeed.
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(02-24-2013 10:21 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  From this morning's Hartford Courant:

The Atlantic coast conference is spreading its brand into the restaurant business. The ACC American cafe is set t open at Raleigh-Durham International Airport next year, as the conference partners with HMS Host for an upscale restaurant that will offer "farm-to-market" dishes and entrees inspired by the home cities of ACC teams, according to the airport's announcement.

Does this sound like a conference whose core members are thinking of abandoning ship and fleeing to the Big Ten?

In a humorous side not, the article goes on to say:

We're not sure if they're already taking reservations, but we know some folks around here are waiting to hear, "UConn party, your table is ready now."

Who says the ACC has to fold if it loses most of it's current membership? Who says that this isn't a very desperate measure by ACC leadership (Swofford) to create reasons for said schools to not leave?

Swofford: "Hey guys! We are creating a restaurant so that we can pay you equally!"

ACC School President: "So what happens when the Big Ten creates it's own restaurant line?"

Swofford: :muttering:
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Conversation in the UNC President's mahogany lined office between the president and the provost, over congac and cigars.

"We have to face the reality of our situation. The combination of the CIC and the BTN is too much to pass up."
(STarts to sign a document.)
KNOCK KNOCK
"Yes"
Intern runs in. "Sirs! Commissioner Swofford has arranged for an ACC themed restaurant!"
"A restaurant! Good show! Get me the shredder for this waste paper!" (Balls up contract.)
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(02-24-2013 05:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Who says the ACC has to fold if it loses most of it's current membership? Who says that this isn't a very desperate measure by ACC leadership (Swofford) to create reasons for said schools to not leave?

Swofford: "Hey guys! We are creating a restaurant so that we can pay you equally!"

ACC School President: "So what happens when the Big Ten creates it's own restaurant line?"

Swofford: :muttering:

I love how people constantly think this is Swofford's idea. Swofford's bosses are the university presidents and chancellors. He works under them and for them collectively. Every single one of them. Swofford doesn't just come up with ideas and then put them into action unilaterally or by himself. Swofford may come up with an idea but it is up to the schools to accept or reject them. The SCHOOLS have the FINAL say.

I guess Swofford was the one that signed off on the $50 million exit for all the schools in the conference (save FSU)?

I guess it was Swofford that forged school president signatures (every single ACC school, including FSU) on the documents authorizing the conference to use all legal options available to them to aggressively pursue every penny from Maryland?

I guess this restaurant idea was some great scheme of Swofford's to fend off the B1G and the schools really didn't want it, right? It couldn't possibly be because the ACC schools like the idea and want to brand the ACC conference? *gasp*

There is no way you are an Iowa fan. First, Iowa fans wouldn't be this concerned and obsessed over this ACC thing. Secondly, even if they were interested they wouldn't have such a biased view point.

I'm guessing you are either an Iowa State fan (scared of the B12 falling apart) or a WVU fan (and we know the type). Either way, take a look at what you are saying. It doesn't jive with the evidence at hand or the logic of it.
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(02-24-2013 05:10 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Conversation in the UNC President's mahogany lined office between the president and the provost, over congac and cigars.

"We have to face the reality of our situation. The combination of the CIC and the BTN is too much to pass up."
(STarts to sign a document.)
KNOCK KNOCK
"Yes"
Intern runs in. "Sirs! Commissioner Swofford has arranged for an ACC themed restaurant!"
"A restaurant! Good show! Get me the shredder for this waste paper!" (Balls up contract.)


You totally missed his point. He didn't say the restaurant idea was some big idea that would somehow financially bury the B1G or CIC. He said schools DON'T START VENTURES LIKE THIS IF THEY PLAN ON LEAVING.
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