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Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
37 of 48 CUSA conference football games were telecast. 26 were FOX or CBSS telecasts; 11 of the 37 telecasts were on CSS. (I am excluding nonconference games).

Only 4 of those 37 CUSA telecasts were Non-Saturday telecasts:

OCT 4 (Thursday): ECU @UCF
OCT 11 (Thursday): UTEP @Tulsa
OCT 18(Thursday): SMU @Houston
NOV 23 (Friday): Marshall @ECU

Of 12 nonconference games played on CUSA home field, only 1 was a Non-Saturday telecast. But that one Non-Saturday game was an early season game, UCLA @Rice Thursday, AUG 30.

Wonder how many week night games Nbe is going to have to play in order to justify their $1.7M per Nbe school contract?
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and?
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  37 of 48 CUSA conference football games were telecast. 26 were FOX or CBSS telecasts; 11 of the 37 telecasts were on CSS. (I am excluding nonconference games).

Only 4 of those 37 CUSA telecasts were Non-Saturday telecasts:

OCT 4 (Thursday): ECU @UCF
OCT 11 (Thursday): UTEP @Tulsa
OCT 18(Thursday): SMU @Houston
NOV 23 (Friday): Marshall @ECU

Of 12 nonconference games played on CUSA home field, only 1 was a Non-Saturday telecast. But that one Non-Saturday game was an early season game, UCLA @Rice Thursday, AUG 30.

Wonder how many week night games Nbe is going to have to play in order to justify their $1.7M per Nbe school contract?

John Bragg actually looked up the 2011 numbers and posted it on another thread--I cut and pasted those numbers at the bottom of this post. It looks like the Big East played a total of 11 Thursday or Friday night games during that year. Ten on ESPN, ESPN2, or ABC. One on ESPN-U. If correct, that would represent 44% of all BE games televised on the ABC/ESPN networks.


I looked up the 2011 Big East football TV schedule(bigeast.org), and counted home games on the different networks and tried to pay attention to games more or less than 7 days apart. I got 8 Saturday ESPN/2/ABC games, 10 Thursday/Friday ESPN/2 games (counting opening and Thanksgiving weekend), 6 Saturday ESPN-U games and 1 Friday ESPN-U game. That's 25 games. I'm interested to see how the exposure is going to be better.
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
So?

ESPN has the audience. No one with cable or satellite has to go to the program guide to figure out if they get ESPN.
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  37 of 48 CUSA conference football games were telecast. 26 were FOX or CBSS telecasts; 11 of the 37 telecasts were on CSS. (I am excluding nonconference games).

Only 4 of those 37 CUSA telecasts were Non-Saturday telecasts:

OCT 4 (Thursday): ECU @UCF
OCT 11 (Thursday): UTEP @Tulsa
OCT 18(Thursday): SMU @Houston
NOV 23 (Friday): Marshall @ECU

Of 12 nonconference games played on CUSA home field, only 1 was a Non-Saturday telecast. But that one Non-Saturday game was an early season game, UCLA @Rice Thursday, AUG 30.

Wonder how many week night games Nbe is going to have to play in order to justify their $1.7M per Nbe school contract?

LOL, I wouldn't be bragging about that, NOBODY is watching the Tulsa game or any other CUSA game on channel 5997 (if they even get that channel) on saturday when Oklahoma is playing during that same time slot. Guess what, everybody but the biggest 100 (maybe) Tulsa fans are watching Oklahoma on a major channel.

ESPN on Wednesday night = 1-2 million viewers by default watching your school. Thats great exposure, nobody watches CUSA "national" TV games. You can make fun of MAC and/or nBE television $$ all you want but at least we are broadcast on a relevant TV channel during a relevant time slot where people actually see us. Every sports bar, airport, hotel, etc and every casual football fan in the nation is watching. I'll take the exposure over the $. Corporations spend BIG $ to advertise their product, ESPN delivers that.

CUSA on Saturday on CBS Sports Network during the Oklahoma game is worthless. You'd get the same amount a viewers on ROKU. No Joke.

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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
(02-23-2013 05:28 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  37 of 48 CUSA conference football games were telecast. 26 were FOX or CBSS telecasts; 11 of the 37 telecasts were on CSS. (I am excluding nonconference games).

Only 4 of those 37 CUSA telecasts were Non-Saturday telecasts:

OCT 4 (Thursday): ECU @UCF
OCT 11 (Thursday): UTEP @Tulsa
OCT 18(Thursday): SMU @Houston
NOV 23 (Friday): Marshall @ECU

Of 12 nonconference games played on CUSA home field, only 1 was a Non-Saturday telecast. But that one Non-Saturday game was an early season game, UCLA @Rice Thursday, AUG 30.

Wonder how many week night games Nbe is going to have to play in order to justify their $1.7M per Nbe school contract?

LOL, I wouldn't be bragging about that, NOBODY is watching the Tulsa game or any other CUSA game on channel 5997 (if they even get that channel) on saturday when Oklahoma is playing during that same time slot. Guess what, everybody but the biggest 100 (maybe) Tulsa fans are watching Oklahoma on a major channel.

ESPN on Wednesday night = 1-2 million viewers by default watching your school. Thats great exposure, nobody watches CUSA "national" TV games. You can make fun of MAC and/or nBE television $$ all you want but at least we are broadcast on a relevant TV channel during a relevant time slot where people actually see us. Every sports bar, airport, hotel, etc and every casual football fan in the nation is watching. I'll take the exposure over the $. Corporations spend BIG $ to advertise their product, ESPN delivers that.

CUSA on Saturday on CBS Sports Network during the Oklahoma game is worthless. You'd get the same amount a viewers on ROKU. No Joke.

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we are becoming a society of a flat screen where no one wants to go to the actual even anymore. No wonder NFL and college football actual attendance is down lol
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
ESPN will exclusively broadcast Big East games on Saturday once they poach the cream of the crop from the Big 12 & ACC.
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Wonder how many week night games Nbe is going to have to play in order to justify their $1.7M per Nbe school contract?

At least get the amount right. $120M / 6 years is $20M. $20M / 10 teams is $2M per team...not including the money for additional inventory.

$1.7M is absolutely (and I'm sure intentionally) incorrect.
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(02-23-2013 09:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Wonder how many week night games Nbe is going to have to play in order to justify their $1.7M per Nbe school contract?

At least get the amount right. $120M / 6 years is $20M. $20M / 10 teams is $2M per team...not including the money for additional inventory.

$1.7M is absolutely (and I'm sure intentionally) incorrect.

of course it is but that dumb jackwagon thinks he can say it enough times to make it happen. He's just using the 10 million for next year thinking that is all the BE is getting, when they'll be getting 13.3 million I believe from ESPN for the football in the last year of the current deal.

Hope he enjoys his Tulsa getting only 1 million next year, down from 1.2 this year.
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(02-23-2013 05:31 PM)billings Wrote:  we are becoming a society of a flat screen where no one wants to go to the actual even anymore. No wonder NFL and college football actual attendance is down lol

I've got a brand new flatscreen and it hasn't kept me from attending games. But then again I follow a school where I can buy four tickets 12 rows off the 47 yard line even with the required donation for less than the cost of 2 tickets to my local SEC team. I can buy two tickets 14 rows from the free throw line for the price of one upper corner or end zone seat at an ACC game and even less than that price at some schools.

Half of all households in the US get buy on $50,000 or less. If you are making $1000 a week and a game costs you 10% of your weekly income you aren't going to many games.
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
All 12 of USM's losses were on TV last year. I expect the TV appearance frequency to continue. Tulsa and USM are C-USA's marquee teams now.
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
37 C-USA conference games were televised. 65 will be televised for the Big East. Quite a large differential. With 10 BE teams, there are 80 conference games. 15 won't be televised on one of the ESPN networks but I'm sure those 15 will be farmed out. Most of the new Big East teams had their entire past C-USA schedule televised. I don't expect that to change.
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
(02-24-2013 10:33 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  37 C-USA conference games were televised. 65 will be televised for the Big East. Quite a large differential. With 10 BE teams, there are 80 conference games. 15 won't be televised on one of the ESPN networks but I'm sure those 15 will be farmed out. Most of the new Big East teams had their entire past C-USA schedule televised. I don't expect that to change.

The CUSA contract was negotiated 3 years ago. Under that now old contract given today's rapid changes, a total of 49 out of 72 possible homes CUSA games were telecast. That wa a number all CUSA teams were pleased with at that time, including ECU, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, and Houston.

SEC is getting its own network, another one of the new developments in today's rapidly changing broadcast and technical environment and ESPN will have more open slots. Good for Nbe (that is, depending on week nite games played). When CUSA renegotiates its tv contract in 3 years, these new opportunities will also be available to CUSA also.

It is akin to knocking B12 for having only a $12M per school contract....and ignoring B12's new contract at $20M per school. Nbe, having failed and failed miserably in all its touted exaggerated goals, is using any device, including outdated ones, to make itself feel good.
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(02-24-2013 10:33 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  37 C-USA conference games were televised. 65 will be televised for the Big East. Quite a large differential. With 10 BE teams, there are 80 conference games. 15 won't be televised on one of the ESPN networks but I'm sure those 15 will be farmed out. Most of the new Big East teams had their entire past C-USA schedule televised. I don't expect that to change.

Small correction--there will be 40 conference games (assuming 10 teams). Then another 20 to 30 OCC games.
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(02-24-2013 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 10:33 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  37 C-USA conference games were televised. 65 will be televised for the Big East. Quite a large differential. With 10 BE teams, there are 80 conference games. 15 won't be televised on one of the ESPN networks but I'm sure those 15 will be farmed out. Most of the new Big East teams had their entire past C-USA schedule televised. I don't expect that to change.

Small correction--there will be 40 conference games (assuming 10 teams). Then another 20 to 30 OCC games.

Just trying to understand...the 65 will be a combo of conference and OOC (in which the BE team is the home team) and not just straight conference games?
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(02-24-2013 02:56 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 10:33 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  37 C-USA conference games were televised. 65 will be televised for the Big East. Quite a large differential. With 10 BE teams, there are 80 conference games. 15 won't be televised on one of the ESPN networks but I'm sure those 15 will be farmed out. Most of the new Big East teams had their entire past C-USA schedule televised. I don't expect that to change.

Small correction--there will be 40 conference games (assuming 10 teams). Then another 20 to 30 OCC games.

Just trying to understand...the 65 will be a combo of conference and OOC (in which the BE team is the home team) and not just straight conference games?

Correct. Big East only has rights to home games. Most nBE teams have 6 home games, but a few have 7--thus roughly 65 or so total games that the nBE has available to sell. The description we have heard so far would indicate that ESPN has purchased control of the entire nBE football inventory. However, Im sure more detail will be available early next week. It seems it took a week or more for all the correct details to leak out regarding the ACC contract. Two months after the Mountain West renegotiated contract was announced some of the details (such as how many games CBS bought) are still a mystery.
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(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Of 12 nonconference games played on CUSA home field, only 1 was a Non-Saturday telecast. But that one Non-Saturday game was an early season game, UCLA @Rice Thursday, AUG 30.

I do not mind non-Saturday games for Labor Day and Thanksgiving weekends. The Thursday night opener against UCLA actually went fairly well, in comparison to some mid-week evening attendance disasters we had in the WAC.

Since FSN is televising the Bayou Bucket in 2013, that means C-USA has the game and not the Big East?
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(02-24-2013 03:40 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Of 12 nonconference games played on CUSA home field, only 1 was a Non-Saturday telecast. But that one Non-Saturday game was an early season game, UCLA @Rice Thursday, AUG 30.

I do not mind non-Saturday games for Labor Day and Thanksgiving weekends. The Thursday night opener against UCLA actually went fairly well, in comparison to some mid-week evening attendance disasters we had in the WAC.

Since FSN is televising the Bayou Bucket in 2013, that means C-USA has the game and not the Big East?

Can you confirm this? I think this one will be under UH's tv home package, since it was under Rice's last season IIRC. If this is the case, then it likely goes to ESPN/2/U.
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(02-24-2013 04:18 PM)Texas2Step Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 03:40 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Of 12 nonconference games played on CUSA home field, only 1 was a Non-Saturday telecast. But that one Non-Saturday game was an early season game, UCLA @Rice Thursday, AUG 30.

I do not mind non-Saturday games for Labor Day and Thanksgiving weekends. The Thursday night opener against UCLA actually went fairly well, in comparison to some mid-week evening attendance disasters we had in the WAC.

Since FSN is televising the Bayou Bucket in 2013, that means C-USA has the game and not the Big East?

Can you confirm this? I think this one will be under UH's tv home package, since it was under Rice's last season IIRC. If this is the case, then it likely goes to ESPN/2/U.

Only that it shows this way on the Rice football schedule. I'm not sure the televised games have been announced yet?

http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-footbl/...sched.html
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RE: Only 4 of 37 CUSA Conference tv games were Non-Saturday games.
it's kind of surprising that Rice would be having the TV for the game.

in 2012, looking at it, Rice had 4 Road CUSA games- Memphis, Tulsa, Tulane, and UTEP. That means, for the Houston game they were the "home" team.
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