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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
What OOC games does the BE have for next year?

Purdue at Cincinnati
Michigan at Uconn
Maryland at Uconn
Arkansas at Rutgers
Miami at USF
BYU at Houston
South Carolina at UCF

Not hard to find the 6 or 7 games that ESPN will put on the main channel or the deuce
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-24-2013 10:20 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
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(02-24-2013 08:42 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The deal would have been exactly the same if Pitt, Syracuse, and Louisville had stayed in the Big East and UConn, Cincinnati, and USF had left for the ACC.

I think that with Pitt and Syracuse, you have some interest from ESPN and FoxSports1. Pitt has 2 AP national championships, 9 major bowls, Tony Dorsett, Dan Marino, Mike Ditka and Pop Warner. Syracuse has 8 major bowls, Jim Brown, Larry Csonka and Donovan McNabb. Both have decades of solid attendance. That matters to TV networks.

Louisville has been good lately, much like Cincinnati, but their attendance is a lot better, indicating more fans which means more ratings. There's a reason that Louisville was runner-up for the Big 12 and not Cincinnati.

Due to BB, UConn is a better known national brand than Syracuse or Pitt. None of the three get a huge amount of respect in FB.

I purposely didn't mention basketball, because somehow you're not getting paid for it. But Syracuse's 1 NC, 5 Final Fours and 20 Sweet Sixteens match up with UConn's 3NC, 4 FF and 16 S16. You can argue 3NCs vs 1NC, but you're in the same conversation.

In football, UConn and Syracuse and Pitt aren't in the same conversation. Pitt and Syracuse don't get a ton of respect in football, but they get some, which is more than none. That's the residue of decades of being national powers. Jim Brown. Dan Marino. UConn has--a Fiesta Bowl that people said they didn't deserve.

I suspect that Aresco had to take short money to get guarantees that your football league would be on national-basic-cable and not used as FoxSports2 or CBS-SN fodder. With Pitt and Syracuse, I think Fox is willing to figure out a way to get some games on FoxSports1.

Yes I'm sure all the 17 year olds think about Syracuse being good in the 60's and Pitt beig good in the 70's
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-22-2013 11:47 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 11:40 AM)stever20 Wrote:  great find.

The popular narrative now is that the Big East is essentially on even footing with the Mountain West, as the two leagues emerge as the primary combatants to be No. 6. No, the Big East didn't get the big television deal it once sought, but it has a deal with ESPN, which the MWC doesn't have. In this ESPN-dominated college sports environment, that's not a bad consolation prize.

If I am not mistaken the nBe is the only GoF league that has a contract with the Network that controls the College Football Postseason...I expect ESPN will give the nBe the most favorable converage of the GoF Leagues and if all things being equal the nBe will get more than it fair share of appearences in the GoF Access Slot in the new system.

The MAC also has games telecast on ESPN
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-22-2013 01:00 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Well I guess MAC fans like the midweek hot garbage games in front of 15 fans.

Last 2 midweek games NIU has played were Toledo for whom the Huskie faithful would turnout on any night. Remember also that the "midweek" games also include the Friday after Tday which really isn't a mid week game and as good a game as you can get not being on a Saturday as they are Friday afternoon games. when everyone is off school and work
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-24-2013 11:30 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 10:20 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 10:04 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 09:01 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 08:42 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The deal would have been exactly the same if Pitt, Syracuse, and Louisville had stayed in the Big East and UConn, Cincinnati, and USF had left for the ACC.

I think that with Pitt and Syracuse, you have some interest from ESPN and FoxSports1. Pitt has 2 AP national championships, 9 major bowls, Tony Dorsett, Dan Marino, Mike Ditka and Pop Warner. Syracuse has 8 major bowls, Jim Brown, Larry Csonka and Donovan McNabb. Both have decades of solid attendance. That matters to TV networks.

Louisville has been good lately, much like Cincinnati, but their attendance is a lot better, indicating more fans which means more ratings. There's a reason that Louisville was runner-up for the Big 12 and not Cincinnati.

Due to BB, UConn is a better known national brand than Syracuse or Pitt. None of the three get a huge amount of respect in FB.

I purposely didn't mention basketball, because somehow you're not getting paid for it. But Syracuse's 1 NC, 5 Final Fours and 20 Sweet Sixteens match up with UConn's 3NC, 4 FF and 16 S16. You can argue 3NCs vs 1NC, but you're in the same conversation.

In football, UConn and Syracuse and Pitt aren't in the same conversation. Pitt and Syracuse don't get a ton of respect in football, but they get some, which is more than none. That's the residue of decades of being national powers. Jim Brown. Dan Marino. UConn has--a Fiesta Bowl that people said they didn't deserve.

I suspect that Aresco had to take short money to get guarantees that your football league would be on national-basic-cable and not used as FoxSports2 or CBS-SN fodder. With Pitt and Syracuse, I think Fox is willing to figure out a way to get some games on FoxSports1.

Yes I'm sure all the 17 year olds think about Syracuse being good in the 60's and Pitt beig good in the 70's

Well, it beats being good never.
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-22-2013 04:13 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 04:07 PM)swash Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 02:22 PM)dogma Wrote:  
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(02-22-2013 12:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  This deal is a nightmare. It's the worst case scenario of all the options. No money and a pile of joke mid week football games.

let them play their midweek games. ECU will refuse to play home games during midweek , guaranteed.

03-lmfao

lol if you actually believe ECU will have a say in this... ESPECIALLY during conference games.

It will be interesting to see how we handle home games...it is the stance we've taken for the past two years, and I'd be surprised if we deviated from it. With attendance of 50,000 per game on a Saturday, you have to take into consideration that our gate+concession revenue is actually more than the @ 1.8 million we'll receive in an ENTIRE YEAR from this media payout. At the end of the day, ECU is expected to make money to support it's student athletes...not lose money by playing on a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Friday. Exposure is one thing...fiscal responsibility is another. We shall see....but I doubt seriously you'll see ECU on Tuesday or Wednesday night in Greenville.

Yes, but this is a deal between the conference and the network. ECU has agreed to join the nBE and will sign a contract with the conference. The conference will sign a contract with the TV network providing a certain amount of weekday games. So, if the network wants ECU on Wednesday night, then they are playing. None of the teams in the conference would prefer to play on weekdays, and I don't see ECU (especially as one of the newest teams) being given any special privileges over the others.

I mean no disrespect to our new conference mates, and I don't wish to portray a "holier than thou" attitude. I just don't expect the Big East to push us to a Tuesday or Wednesday night for our home games. It doesn't make sense for them to hamstring a team with strong attendance like that. Historically, Tues/Wed games (from all conferences) have been played at stadiums with less than average attendance for the simple purpose of giving additional exposure to a team that typically doesn't receive it on a traditional football day/night with few exceptions. Obviously there are schools that would benefit more from the Tues/Wed exposure on ESPN than they would a non-televised home game on a Saturday. Just as CUSA wanted to see what was best for it's member institutions, so to will the Big East, IMO.

As one poster has pointed out, it's a moot point until 2014 anyway...and could be a moot point altogether.

Irregardless, even if we were pushed into play on a Tues/Wed, we'd offer a great turnout in comparison to the majority of FBS teams and would proudly represent the Big East or whatever conference we are members of at the time.
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-22-2013 04:26 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 04:07 PM)swash Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 02:22 PM)dogma Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 01:49 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 12:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  This deal is a nightmare.

l

Exposure is one thing...fiscal responsibility is another. We shall see....but I doubt seriously you'll see ECU on Tuesday or Wednesday night in Greenville.

Time to go back to CUSA.

I don't think we've left...
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-24-2013 08:42 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The deal would have been exactly the same if Pitt, Syracuse, and Louisville had stayed in the Big East and UConn, Cincinnati, and USF had left for the ACC.

wrong... Biggest reason- the split does not happen with the C7 quite frankly.
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
1 a year against the right opponent we would support fine. By "right opponent" I mean if the league/ESPN decides they want to put 1 of our home power conference games a year on a Thursday or Friday night it would still probably sell out or be so close that you wouldn't notice on TV. We'll be playing VT at home in 15, 17, and 19 and I could easily see ESPN be interested in putting any of those on a Thursday night. We play BYU at home in 17, UNC at home in 14 and either 16 or 18, South Carolina neutral site in 14 and home in 15, NC State home in 16, and WVU tentatively at home in 16 and 18. That's a bunch of games ESPN could want to put on a Thursday or Friday night ESPN slot.
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-25-2013 09:59 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  1 a year against the right opponent we would support fine. By "right opponent" I mean if the league/ESPN decides they want to put 1 of our home power conference games a year on a Thursday or Friday night it would still probably sell out or be so close that you wouldn't notice on TV. We'll be playing VT at home in 15, 17, and 19 and I could easily see ESPN be interested in putting any of those on a Thursday night. We play BYU at home in 17, UNC at home in 14 and either 16 or 18, South Carolina neutral site in 14 and home in 15, NC State home in 16, and WVU tentatively at home in 16 and 18. That's a bunch of games ESPN could want to put on a Thursday or Friday night ESPN slot.

I could see if ECU is a favorite in the Big East(very possible) ESPN putting if there is no CCG a game on the final Thursday night of the season a game with ECU vs another favorite (kind of like last year with Louisville and Rutgers).
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
(02-24-2013 10:48 PM)billings Wrote:  What OOC games does the BE have for next year?

Purdue at Cincinnati
Michigan at Uconn
Maryland at Uconn
Arkansas at Rutgers
Miami at USF
BYU at Houston
South Carolina at UCF

Not hard to find the 6 or 7 games that ESPN will put on the main channel or the deuce

Add in a few conference games that include Cincinnati, Louisville, Houston, Rutgers, and USF and thats probably equals the likely top picks for ESPN.
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RE: Good article on the Big East TV deal
I'd say Texas Tech @ SMU would find it's way on somewhere. wouldn't be shocked if gets moved to Sunday of Labor Day weekend quite frankly
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