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(02-15-2013 12:37 PM)krux Wrote:  Dude you're just bound and determined to argue with me, aren't you? I didn't realize this was a football exclusive board/thread...my bad.

I simply was tossing an additional set of officiating changes I'd like to see in a thread about experimental officiating. For the record, I have taken an officiating class at UofL that was taught by current NCAA, NFL and NBA refs. Those guys have a lot of great ideas to fix game officiating but their respective leagues seem none too interested in hearing their suggestions. Of course that was at least 10 years ago so maybe they have more of a voice now.

All I'm saying is the football has a replay mechanism in place for the entire game that basketball can't have. If basketball did what football did, games would be 4 hours long. Football has a replay mechanism that they can use the whole game that basketball(due to the nature of the game) can't use the whole game.

If there were something they could find that would be useful the last 2 minutes but not otherwise, I'd be all for it. I thought in the Notre Dame/Louisville game on Saturday(sorry to bring it up- just one of the more prevelent examples this year), there was a shot clock violation that got reviewed and that was a great instance of replay. I just don't know something that in football they can't replay already that would be similar in nature.

I guess in short, I agree with you 100%, just don't see any thing they could use it with.
02-15-2013 01:39 PM
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RE: Big 12 plans to experiment with 8 football officials next season
(02-15-2013 01:39 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 12:37 PM)krux Wrote:  Dude you're just bound and determined to argue with me, aren't you? I didn't realize this was a football exclusive board/thread...my bad.

I simply was tossing an additional set of officiating changes I'd like to see in a thread about experimental officiating. For the record, I have taken an officiating class at UofL that was taught by current NCAA, NFL and NBA refs. Those guys have a lot of great ideas to fix game officiating but their respective leagues seem none too interested in hearing their suggestions. Of course that was at least 10 years ago so maybe they have more of a voice now.

All I'm saying is the football has a replay mechanism in place for the entire game that basketball can't have. If basketball did what football did, games would be 4 hours long. Football has a replay mechanism that they can use the whole game that basketball(due to the nature of the game) can't use the whole game.

If there were something they could find that would be useful the last 2 minutes but not otherwise, I'd be all for it. I thought in the Notre Dame/Louisville game on Saturday(sorry to bring it up- just one of the more prevelent examples this year), there was a shot clock violation that got reviewed and that was a great instance of replay. I just don't know something that in football they can't replay already that would be similar in nature.

I guess in short, I agree with you 100%, just don't see any thing they could use it with.

No worries about that game. I really am not sweating it. I'm a fan but I got over the "live or die" thing a long time ago. It's amazing how much healthier I am now too! hahaha

But you pretty much explained what I was talking about dead on. My last 2 minute reference was regarding basketball, not football. I also agree that doing that through the whole game would be stupid.

You know one of the ideas that was brought up in that class for basketball was adopting the "challenge" flag. You get one per game to challenge any call you want via replay...but that's it and it costs you a time out if you lose the challenge.

I actually hope this 8th official works and we can perhaps replace some replay with that official. You'll still need it for somethings but I'm hoping an extra set of eyes might cut down on the bulk of them.
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RE: Big 12 plans to experiment with 8 football officials next season
Just based on where the 8th official will be, I don't think it'll replace replay all that much.

Challenge flags would be interesting.....

I guess goign back to your original point, the NCAA does have some things they already can review last 2 minutes. Not sure if it's everything the NBA does, but it's close. I think that game in the BET a few years ago with Rutgers and St John's or USF(can't remember) maybe forced the issue to some degree.
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RE: Big 12 plans to experiment with 8 football officials next season
They can but to my knowledge they still can't review possession at the end of games. Which is a big deal. That's what Bob Valvano was talking about on the radio the other day at least and Bob is usually gospel for me.
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RE: Big 12 plans to experiment with 8 football officials next season
yeah possession is a big deal...

yeah, Bob Valvano is one of my favorites believe it or not(love him on ESPN overnights weekends). So glad he survived his scare in December.
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RE: Big 12 plans to experiment with 8 football officials next season
No doubt that Bob is that man. He had our entire city praying for him in December...UK fans too.

I love his philosophy on using TV time out segments to break down a game instead of halves. He calls all of our games on the radio. If you ever get a chance to listen to one of our radio broadcasts (I believe 84 WHAS's signal stretches as far as Texas on some nights) I would highly reccommend it. His commentary is unrivaled during the game and Pitino respects him so much that he's able to ask and get answers to questions no one else in the media can...aside from maybe Pat Forde. Pat and Rick are REAL tight.
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RE: Big 12 plans to experiment with 8 football officials next season
I'd have loved to hear Bob's interview with Pitino after the 5 OT game. That would have been comical. One of the craziest/best games I've seen. (btw, your PG needs some game IQ big time!)
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RE: Big 12 plans to experiment with 8 football officials next season
I don't know what's going on with Siva and Russ. Siva has been so clutch in years past but has crumbled this year. Hopefully, like last year, we'll get it together for the tourney and make a run. We're too talented, deep and well coached to struggle like we have this past month.
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(02-15-2013 02:17 PM)krux Wrote:  I don't know what's going on with Siva and Russ. Siva has been so clutch in years past but has crumbled this year. Hopefully, like last year, we'll get it together for the tourney and make a run. We're too talented, deep and well coached to struggle like we have this past month.

I was impressed last night they didn't let the game from Saturday beat them twice.
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RE: Big 12 plans to experiment with 8 football officials next season
Word on the street is Kevin Ware was causing some problems chemistry wise. He's supposedly going to play out this year and transfer out at the end of the year. Not official yet but that's what our insiders are saying.

Makes sense though considering we have 3 VERY talented guards coming next year. He probably wouldn't see much time between them and Russ coming back. Chris Jones is supposed to be better than Siva the first day he steps on campus and Anton Gill and Terry Rozier have been trading 50pt games at Hargrave.

He might have seen the writing on the wall and started getting pissy and starting stuff.
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