Give it up, john. You haven't a clue about Texas politics. I've lived in Texas, and seen it in action. I'm still not sure about it myself...

(02-08-2013 08:25 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-08-2013 01:53 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 09:17 AM)stever20 Wrote:  another delusional not even in the ACC fanboy speaking. I mean- Pac 12 taking Texas Tech, TCU, and Oklahoma St? That's just crazy talk. KSU can push for the Big Ten all they want- it's not happening. So your "logic" is an epic fail..... Like a lot coming from the ACC fanboys.

Then enlighten me, BIG EAST lite, who would the Pac take if they wanted to expand? BYU, BSU, SDSU, and Houston/SMU? Those aren't really attractive schools. Or maybe you think they can raid the SEC/B1G?

Just because I called you out on your BS claim that "Texas doesn't run the Big XII" doesn't mean you have to get all upset.

Right now, the Pac won't be expanding.

And, I'm sorry, but when the GOR was done, Texas was at it's weakest point in some time. I mean, they got smacked down on doing HS games or highlights for one. The power was more with Oklahoma at the point of doing the GOR than Texas.

I agree. Good valid points

J.R. Ewing could have gotten them out of it, but he's gone on to the big ranch in the sky.

From the political side, UT can't leave Tech unless some kind of deal is made with the PAC to take them.

And we all know that TCU and BU will fight it to. Kenny's law suit threat over us leaving is a tempest in a tea pot over what would happen at the state house if BU and TCU were really facing losing AQ money

(02-08-2013 12:43 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  From the political side, UT can't leave Tech unless some kind of deal is made with the PAC to take them.

And we all know that TCU and BU will fight it to. Kenny's law suit threat over us leaving is a tempest in a tea pot over what would happen at the state house if BU and TCU were really facing losing AQ money

UT may or may not have a Tech problem. I just don't know about that. However, I do not think BU or TCU have enough political clout to be a problem for UT.

Also, I think the fact that A&M was allowed to walk would help UT if they wanted to leave.

(02-08-2013 12:43 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  From the political side, UT can't leave Tech unless some kind of deal is made with the PAC to take them.

And we all know that TCU and BU will fight it to. Kenny's law suit threat over us leaving is a tempest in a tea pot over what would happen at the state house if BU and TCU were really facing losing AQ money

There is no way the Big XII loses AQ status, even if the Longhorns leave.

And as best I understand it, the GOR means that Texas can change conferences and still collect their Big 12 TV revenue check. So the Big Ten doesn't have to pay Texas a full share until they can get Texas' home TV rights cleared.

I can't believe someone actually wrote that.......wow.

UT may or may not have a Tech problem.

That there is a "Tech Problem" for Texas is one of the very few things in the absurdity of conference realignment that has been 100% confirmed.

Tech Problem

(02-08-2013 04:23 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  And as best I understand it, the GOR means that Texas can change conferences and still collect their Big 12 TV revenue check. So the Big Ten doesn't have to pay Texas a full share until they can get Texas' home TV rights cleared.

I can't believe someone actually wrote that.......wow.

In common law there's a principle that a contract can't be one way.

So what exactly did Texas get in return for signing away their TV rights?

If the answer is "money", then if you stop paying them the money, you have to give their TV rights back.

If the answer is something else, I'd like to hear it.

(02-08-2013 04:28 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(02-08-2013 04:23 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  And as best I understand it, the GOR means that Texas can change conferences and still collect their Big 12 TV revenue check. So the Big Ten doesn't have to pay Texas a full share until they can get Texas' home TV rights cleared.

I can't believe someone actually wrote that.......wow.

In common law there's a principle that a contract can't be one way.

So what exactly did Texas get in return for signing away their TV rights?

If the answer is "money", then if you stop paying them the money, you have to give their TV rights back.

If the answer is something else, I'd like to hear it.

Yeah, if anyone ever leaves one of the conferences with a GOR, the conference had better keep sending the departing school every penny of the required TV money, and sending it on-time.

It's like leasing a house, right? If you lease a house to me, and I move in, I start sending you monthly payments, etc., and then you decide you want to kick me out of the house, you can't kick me out until the lease is over -- unless I stop sending you the rent payments, in which case you can kick me out. If a conference with a GOR stops sending payments to the departing school, then the conference won't hold the departing school's TV rights anymore.

(02-08-2013 04:23 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  And as best I understand it, the GOR means that Texas can change conferences and still collect their Big 12 TV revenue check. So the Big Ten doesn't have to pay Texas a full share until they can get Texas' home TV rights cleared.

I can't believe someone actually wrote that.......wow.

UT may or may not have a Tech problem.

That there is a "Tech Problem" for Texas is one of the very few things in the absurdity of conference realignment that has been 100% confirmed.

Tech Problem

Good grief that link is three years old. A lot has changed since then. Also, that article does not confirm anything...comments by a guy outside of Texas that has been wrong too many times to count.

(02-08-2013 06:05 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(02-08-2013 04:23 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  And as best I understand it, the GOR means that Texas can change conferences and still collect their Big 12 TV revenue check. So the Big Ten doesn't have to pay Texas a full share until they can get Texas' home TV rights cleared.

I can't believe someone actually wrote that.......wow.

UT may or may not have a Tech problem.

That there is a "Tech Problem" for Texas is one of the very few things in the absurdity of conference realignment that has been 100% confirmed.

Tech Problem

Good grief that link is three years old. A lot has changed since then. Also, that article does not confirm anything...comments by a guy outside of Texas that has been wrong too many times to count.

Between the OSU emails that FOIA obtained and Tech and UT admin (as well as the okies) being vocal about sticking together. Frankly at this point the burden of proof is on those who say they aren't linked going forward.

(02-08-2013 06:37 PM)S11 Wrote:  

(02-08-2013 06:05 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(02-08-2013 04:23 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  And as best I understand it, the GOR means that Texas can change conferences and still collect their Big 12 TV revenue check. So the Big Ten doesn't have to pay Texas a full share until they can get Texas' home TV rights cleared.

I can't believe someone actually wrote that.......wow.

UT may or may not have a Tech problem.

That there is a "Tech Problem" for Texas is one of the very few things in the absurdity of conference realignment that has been 100% confirmed.

Tech Problem

Good grief that link is three years old. A lot has changed since then. Also, that article does not confirm anything...comments by a guy outside of Texas that has been wrong too many times to count.

Between the OSU emails that FOIA obtained and Tech and UT admin (as well as the okies) being vocal about sticking together. Frankly at this point the burden of proof is on those who say they aren't linked going forward.

I am not aware of all the emails you mention and how old they are, and if they are since A&M left. I believe the dynamics have changed since A&M left.

What I said in my post was......"UT may or may not have a Tech problem, I do not know about that".....
I never said UT did not have a Tech problem, so there is nothing for me to prove.

Not trying to be argumentative, but I have not seen 100% proof that UT 'currently' does have a Tech problem. Maybe they do, maybe they don't.....I just don't know. I do not consider comments made three years ago by the guy at OSU, who has made other comments that have back fired on him, as 100% proof that there is a currrent problem.