(01-09-2013 10:48 PM)johndavidblue Wrote:  Are you the idiot "Evan from WKU" that called into 3hl today, not once but twice showing so much BUTTHURT with MTSU that it wasn't funny. They ate your lunch son. Ate your lunch. All you did was whine about how MT was selected for the CUSA and your school wasn't.

(01-09-2013 09:21 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  WKU - Nashville market

WKU-UL outdraws MT-Vandy @ Bridgestone Arena
WKU-UK @ LP Field
Bobby Petrino & UT Coach are keynote speakers at Nashville SportsFest

WKU will talk of Nashville sports media opening up with UK in Nashville and then playing the Vols the following week....

Stay classy John David....

(01-09-2013 10:59 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:48 PM)johndavidblue Wrote:  Are you the idiot "Evan from WKU" that called into 3hl today, not once but twice showing so much BUTTHURT with MTSU that it wasn't funny. They ate your lunch son. Ate your lunch. All you did was whine about how MT was selected for the CUSA and your school wasn't.

(01-09-2013 09:21 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  WKU - Nashville market

WKU-UL outdraws MT-Vandy @ Bridgestone Arena
WKU-UK @ LP Field
Bobby Petrino & UT Coach are keynote speakers at Nashville SportsFest

WKU will talk of Nashville sports media opening up with UK in Nashville and then playing the Vols the following week....

Stay classy John David....

so that's a yes? awesome.

(01-09-2013 10:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  But come Sept and the day of the uk vs WKU game you will see as much or more Nashville TV and print coverage than the muts will see in a month or two. BANK ON IT.

You are truly gifted in the art of hyperbole.

Wait and see if it's not the leadoff story on channel 5 and front page of the sports section and maybe even front page of the Tennessean. Here's why...

it's going to be a hot story with somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000 Kentuckians coming into Nashville for the game. It's almost like the perfect storm for WKU to get noticed in the Nashville market.

Ky is the bottom of the barrel in the SEC but they are SEC and when we beat them (hopefully really bad) we have UT waiting...that will get a ton of press in Nashville.

I know 50,000 sounds like a dream and most likely wouldn't be close to that if uk hadn't hired a new coach. But with both school having new coaches and coming off the WKU win over uk this past year sets up the perfect storm for fans...it's also the first game of the season and on a Saturday.

So 50,000 isn't that much of a dream at all. When we beat uk in Nashville we have another part of the perfect storm (for the Nashville media) waiting in UT. A win over uk and then UT sets up WKU to take advantage of the Nashville market for the rest of the season....

Perfect storm is setting up for WKU...

New hot coach
1ST game is in Nashville with 50,000 fans
UT waiting after uk
Navy and Army as the other OOC games

Of course losing kills any hope of that but even a muts fan should be able to see it as a very good possibility of WKU getting a ton of press in Nashville this coming season.

(01-09-2013 10:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:41 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:16 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Not trying to be a jerk, but WKU is just not going to capture a lot of the Nashville market. It's just never going to happen. You can capture your own alumni that live there but that's all. You can have a game there and get Kentuckians to cross the border and attend...but why would Tennessee natives give a flying squat about WKU?

It's the exact same situation with Arkansas State in the Memphis market. We can capture our own alumni base who live and work in the city and we can capture the West Memphis area....but we are not going to get much traction in a Tennessee town itself with Tennessee natives.

WKU can make runs at sports fans in all of western Kentucky. Arkansas State can make a run at sports fans in the State of Arkansas. But to think that we can really make a dent outside of our own States is really just wishful thinking.

One huge difference WKU use to be the lead story on channel 5 sports most night when WKU had a basketball game. It's been a while but so has the winning at a level that gets that attention.

Also a large section of southern Ky is in the Nashville TV market with the main TV station coming out of Nashville. Unless that's changed over the last 10 years or so.


One factor that's changed over the last 10 to 20 years...PRO SPORTS entered Nashville and with that a change in the viewers. Now Nashville is mostly a pro sports town.

Both the muts and WKU are looking at scrapes when it comes to Nashville and that's not going to change over night. If a hot story comes up at either of the schools...Nashville will cover it but once it dies down it's back to scrapes.

Only one thing will change that WINNING and winning big. That's goes for the MUTS or WKU and not just one season but a run. If either WKU or the muts can fill the void of the Nashville area needing a winner. Either school can fill it but to keep it it will take consistent winning at a national level.

Right now both schools are just getting the hot stories or a feel good story. Nothing from either school to brag about...at this point.

But come Sept and the day of the uk vs WKU game you will see as much or more Nashville TV and print coverage than the muts will see in a month or two. BANK ON IT.

As long as we're clear that no actual Tennesseans are going to care squat about WKU unless they are alums then I'm good with your comment.

I wouldn't say no actual Tennesseans because winning will bring in some of those if there's a void that needs filling just like the Titans filling a void in southern Ky. It won't be overnight but winning at a national level will cross borders especially when you're only 45 minutes away.

You need to concentrate on Western Kentucky and your alumni base wherever they are.

But it is a fool's errand to go for casual out-of-state fans even if you are winning at a high level. It really doesn't work that way.

(01-09-2013 11:31 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  You need to concentrate on Western Kentucky and your alumni base wherever they are.

But it is a fool's errand to go for casual out-of-state fans even if you are winning at a high level. It really doesn't work that way.

I agree it's not very likely for WKU to get tons of new lifetime fans from Nashville and that wasn't really what I was talking about. That time is long gone.

I'm talking more of a "name" that fans recognizes as a "common name" type because today with no borders (internet) and 100s of games on each month it's hard to even build a local fanbase much less from another state.

(01-09-2013 11:03 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:59 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:48 PM)johndavidblue Wrote:  Are you the idiot "Evan from WKU" that called into 3hl today, not once but twice showing so much BUTTHURT with MTSU that it wasn't funny. They ate your lunch son. Ate your lunch. All you did was whine about how MT was selected for the CUSA and your school wasn't.

(01-09-2013 09:21 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  WKU - Nashville market

WKU-UL outdraws MT-Vandy @ Bridgestone Arena
WKU-UK @ LP Field
Bobby Petrino & UT Coach are keynote speakers at Nashville SportsFest

WKU will talk of Nashville sports media opening up with UK in Nashville and then playing the Vols the following week....

Stay classy John David....

so that's a yes? awesome.

Not sure but it was definitely a message board guy because he mentioned "100 miles of hate" which only exists on the boards. WKU will get coverage when they play UT but so did Troy. It's just funny that WKU thinks that they are anything other than an extra milling around in the background. We covered this pretty thoroughly here:

(01-09-2013 11:29 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  But come Sept and the day of the uk vs WKU game you will see as much or more Nashville TV and print coverage than the muts will see in a month or two. BANK ON IT.

You are truly gifted in the art of hyperbole.

Wait and see if it's not the leadoff story on channel 5 and front page of the sports section and maybe even front page of the Tennessean. Here's why...

it's going to be a hot story with somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000 Kentuckians coming into Nashville for the game. It's almost like the perfect storm for WKU to get noticed in the Nashville market.

Ky is the bottom of the barrel in the SEC but they are SEC and when we beat them (hopefully really bad) we have UT waiting...that will get a ton of press in Nashville.

I know 50,000 sounds like a dream and most likely wouldn't be close to that if uk hadn't hired a new coach. But with both school having new coaches and coming off the WKU win over uk this past year sets up the perfect storm for fans...it's also the first game of the season and on a Saturday.

So 50,000 isn't that much of a dream at all. When we beat uk in Nashville we have another part of the perfect storm (for the Nashville media) waiting in UT. A win over uk and then UT sets up WKU to take advantage of the Nashville market for the rest of the season....

Perfect storm is setting up for WKU...

New hot coach
1ST game is in Nashville with 50,000 fans
UT waiting after uk
Navy and Army as the other OOC games

Of course losing kills any hope of that but even a muts fan should be able to see it as a very good possibility of WKU getting a ton of press in Nashville this coming season.

So the game that drew a hair under 25k in 2011 is going to draw 50k two years later because Kentucky hired Bob Stoop's brother?

Give me a break. If the game draws 40k I'll be mildly impressed. Army and Navy have zero to do with this game and UT fans aren't going to give a crap about this game, they may be playing Austin Peay the same week, but it's their season opener. They aren't going to scout WKU based off of this game.

I won't deny that you guys may get more coverage for this game than we will for any individual game, but more than we'll get "in a month or two"...this is the definition of myopia. You'll get at best a decent print preview, a short television preview, a decent print recap and a short television recap. If you think we can't get two print stories and two television stories in eight weeks...I don't know what to tell you.

(01-10-2013 12:19 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 11:29 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  But come Sept and the day of the uk vs WKU game you will see as much or more Nashville TV and print coverage than the muts will see in a month or two. BANK ON IT.

You are truly gifted in the art of hyperbole.

Wait and see if it's not the leadoff story on channel 5 and front page of the sports section and maybe even front page of the Tennessean. Here's why...

it's going to be a hot story with somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000 Kentuckians coming into Nashville for the game. It's almost like the perfect storm for WKU to get noticed in the Nashville market.

Ky is the bottom of the barrel in the SEC but they are SEC and when we beat them (hopefully really bad) we have UT waiting...that will get a ton of press in Nashville.

I know 50,000 sounds like a dream and most likely wouldn't be close to that if uk hadn't hired a new coach. But with both school having new coaches and coming off the WKU win over uk this past year sets up the perfect storm for fans...it's also the first game of the season and on a Saturday.

So 50,000 isn't that much of a dream at all. When we beat uk in Nashville we have another part of the perfect storm (for the Nashville media) waiting in UT. A win over uk and then UT sets up WKU to take advantage of the Nashville market for the rest of the season....

Perfect storm is setting up for WKU...

New hot coach
1ST game is in Nashville with 50,000 fans
UT waiting after uk
Navy and Army as the other OOC games

Of course losing kills any hope of that but even a muts fan should be able to see it as a very good possibility of WKU getting a ton of press in Nashville this coming season.

So the game that drew a hair under 25k in 2011 is going to draw 50k two years later because Kentucky hired Bob Stoop's brother?

Give me a break. If the game draws 40k I'll be mildly impressed. Army and Navy have zero to do with this game and UT fans aren't going to give a crap about this game, they may be playing Austin Peay the same week, but it's their season opener. They aren't going to scout WKU based off of this game.

I won't deny that you guys may get more coverage for this game than we will for any individual game, but more than we'll get "in a month or two"...this is the definition of myopia. You'll get at best a decent print preview, a short television preview, a decent print recap and a short television recap. If you think we can't get two print stories and two television stories in eight weeks...I don't know what to tell you.

Nowhere did I say anything about the number of "stories" the muts will get...front page coverage is worth a lot more than a generic paragraph on page 3 of the sports section by a beat writer.

You really don't know much do you? A Thursday night game that starts at 8:30 that draws 24,500 could easily be doubled with it being on a Saturday and the fact we beat them this past season and both schools having new coaches....

Most of the time "new" equals excitement and renewed hope for a fanbase add in the fact WKU won on uk's home field and the revenge factor to the game being on a day when fans can travel and not miss work...adds up to a lot more uk fans.

BP's first game at WKU and coming off a bowl season WKU will bring more than half of the 50k on a Saturday evening.

Army and Navy have a lot to do with WKU's season...both winnable games and winning means press and a fighting chance to enter SBC play with a 4-0 record and the zoo of BP means even more press. UT fans don't have ANYTHING to do with this other than we play their team. This is about things setting up perfect for WKU (if we win) to get tons of press in Nashville and even national.

Like I said even a muts fan should be able to get that but maybe I'm giving you too much credit for having common sense?

(01-09-2013 10:15 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  meh, we're both similar distances away. You think a state line is supposed to stop the casual fan's interest at this level? Don't pretend your influence is MORE than MT's, but recognize that it is growing (for whatever reason, on or off the field/court). Also recognize that MT and WKU (more so WKU) are fighting for scraps in that market.

To clarify Doug's comment. They aren't asking about WKU, they're asking about Petrino. When you hire a story, you're going to get people interested in the story. They aren't interested in WKU, but maybe they will be.

I'm also interested in what you're hearing about WKU in Nashville, while you're in Dallas.

Well spoken ...kinda. After the people asked about the new WKU hire, we continued to talk football and hoops. It's silly to say that WKU has the same level of following that mt does in the Nashville area, but WKU is trying to get there're share.

(01-10-2013 12:48 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 12:19 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 11:29 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 10:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  But come Sept and the day of the uk vs WKU game you will see as much or more Nashville TV and print coverage than the muts will see in a month or two. BANK ON IT.

You are truly gifted in the art of hyperbole.

Wait and see if it's not the leadoff story on channel 5 and front page of the sports section and maybe even front page of the Tennessean. Here's why...

it's going to be a hot story with somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000 Kentuckians coming into Nashville for the game. It's almost like the perfect storm for WKU to get noticed in the Nashville market.

Ky is the bottom of the barrel in the SEC but they are SEC and when we beat them (hopefully really bad) we have UT waiting...that will get a ton of press in Nashville.

I know 50,000 sounds like a dream and most likely wouldn't be close to that if uk hadn't hired a new coach. But with both school having new coaches and coming off the WKU win over uk this past year sets up the perfect storm for fans...it's also the first game of the season and on a Saturday.

So 50,000 isn't that much of a dream at all. When we beat uk in Nashville we have another part of the perfect storm (for the Nashville media) waiting in UT. A win over uk and then UT sets up WKU to take advantage of the Nashville market for the rest of the season....

Perfect storm is setting up for WKU...

New hot coach
1ST game is in Nashville with 50,000 fans
UT waiting after uk
Navy and Army as the other OOC games

Of course losing kills any hope of that but even a muts fan should be able to see it as a very good possibility of WKU getting a ton of press in Nashville this coming season.

So the game that drew a hair under 25k in 2011 is going to draw 50k two years later because Kentucky hired Bob Stoop's brother?

Give me a break. If the game draws 40k I'll be mildly impressed. Army and Navy have zero to do with this game and UT fans aren't going to give a crap about this game, they may be playing Austin Peay the same week, but it's their season opener. They aren't going to scout WKU based off of this game.

I won't deny that you guys may get more coverage for this game than we will for any individual game, but more than we'll get "in a month or two"...this is the definition of myopia. You'll get at best a decent print preview, a short television preview, a decent print recap and a short television recap. If you think we can't get two print stories and two television stories in eight weeks...I don't know what to tell you.

Nowhere did I say anything about the number of "stories" the muts will get...front page coverage is worth a lot more than a generic paragraph on page 3 of the sports section by a beat writer.

You really don't know much do you? A Thursday night game that starts at 8:30 that draws 24,500 could easily be doubled with it being on a Saturday and the fact we beat them this past season and both schools having new coaches....

Most of the time "new" equals excitement and renewed hope for a fanbase add in the fact WKU won on uk's home field and the revenge factor to the game being on a day when fans can travel and not miss work...adds up to a lot more uk fans.

BP's first game at WKU and coming off a bowl season WKU will bring more than half of the 50k on a Saturday evening.

Army and Navy have a lot to do with WKU's season...both winnable games and winning means press and a fighting chance to enter SBC play with a 4-0 record and the zoo of BP means even more press. UT fans don't have ANYTHING to do with this other than we play their team. This is about things setting up perfect for WKU (if we win) to get tons of press in Nashville and even national.

Like I said even a muts fan should be able to get that but maybe I'm giving you too much credit for having common sense?

Army and Navy have nothing to do with this game. Good OOC schedule, but what does that have to do with this game?

You're right, I don't know too much and you're giving me too much credit.

Let's revisit this thread when the attendance for this game is closer to 40k than it is 50k, shall we?

I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

(01-10-2013 01:16 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

Great. Spend all kinds of money here. We can use the tax revenue :)

(01-10-2013 01:16 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

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What kind of yacht does the admiral of the wky navy command?

(01-10-2013 07:43 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 01:16 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

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What kind of yacht does the admiral of the wky navy command?

40 ft two bedroom that can entertain 18-22 .....anymore questions smarta$$

(01-10-2013 08:37 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 07:43 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 01:16 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

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What kind of yacht does the admiral of the wky navy command?

40 ft two bedroom that can entertain 18-22 .....anymore questions smarta$$

What is her name?

(01-10-2013 08:40 AM)Blueraidersig Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 08:37 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 07:43 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 01:16 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

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What kind of yacht does the admiral of the wky navy command?

40 ft two bedroom that can entertain 18-22 .....anymore questions smarta$$

What is her name?

I just got this one and have not put a name yet....thinking about relatively sound

(01-10-2013 07:43 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 01:16 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

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What kind of yacht does the admiral of the wky navy command?

WKU Yacht




MTSU Yacht

(01-10-2013 07:43 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 01:16 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

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What kind of yacht does the admiral of the wky navy command?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=n5it6SYrs...5it6SYrsU8

This is like mine, just because its called a yacht does not mean its a 100 million dollar boat like tiger woods has, but its not considered a regular run about boat neither

(01-10-2013 06:05 AM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 01:16 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I'm bringing my family in from the western tip of Ky and we are cruising my yacht down the Cumberland River and parking outside of the stadium.

Great. Spend all kinds of money here. We can use the tax revenue :)

I do just about every weekend , it stays in TN.......your welcome

The Nashville Metropolitan Area and media market is clearly defined. WKU is no more relevant in Nashville than UAB. Wishful thinking aside, WKU's core market will always be north of Bowling Green. WKUs target markets have to be Lexington and Louisville to build relevance, just as MT has to target Nashville because we are the state university of Middle Tennessee and Murfreesboro is a commuter suburb of the Nashville job market.
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Anchor City: Nashville

Principal cities in the Nashville metro area include:
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