http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci...-expansion

Well if the Tulsa fans are right about the BE 10 sicking together, then Tulsa would rather join the conf. w/ Tulane and SMU over the MWC. So do we go to 14 w/ UTEP & UTSA? I'm sure Tulsa is at the top of the BE list.

UTEP isn't awful but they should be a long way down the list of expansion candidates. Obviously byu and sdsu are the first two we would want and then are that Houston and smu. I'd take Tulsa ahead of them as well. If we can't get the Texas schools and decide to go to 14 or we can't get byu and go to 16 then we should take them.

(12-31-2012 09:27 PM)szullo Wrote:  UTEP isn't awful but they should be a long way down the list of expansion candidates. Obviously byu and sdsu are the first two we would want and then are that Houston and smu. I'd take Tulsa ahead of them as well. If we can't get the Texas schools and decide to go to 14 or we can't get byu and go to 16 then we should take them.

Expansion Ranks(in my mind)
1.BYU(doubt they come, the church runs the show, not money, sports logic)
2.SDSU(seriously we'll bring them back)
3.Houston(has always seemed to want to stay east, didn't join the WAC 16)
4.SMU(will sick w/ Houston as long as they can)
5.UTSA(I think they have a nice market/Tx, lots of potential, nice stadium w/ fans going)
6.Tulsa(solid fb program, but they'd probably want to join the other privates in SMU, Tulane and try and get Rice in the BE.)
7.UTEP(they deserve to be in the MWC ever since they were screwed out of it like Fresno and Hawaii)
8.Rice(If the BE doesn't take them and we snag a CUSA school or 2 along w/ the BE taking 2 more, they'd join if asked)

(12-31-2012 09:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:27 PM)szullo Wrote:  UTEP isn't awful but they should be a long way down the list of expansion candidates. Obviously byu and sdsu are the first two we would want and then are that Houston and smu. I'd take Tulsa ahead of them as well. If we can't get the Texas schools and decide to go to 14 or we can't get byu and go to 16 then we should take them.

Expansion Ranks(in my mind)
1.BYU(doubt they come, the church runs the show, not money, sports logic)
2.SDSU(seriously we'll bring them back)
3.Houston(has always seemed to want to stay east, didn't join the WAC 16)
4.SMU(will sick w/ Houston as long as they can)
5.UTSA(I think they have a nice market/Tx, lots of potential, nice stadium w/ fans going)
6.Tulsa(solid fb program, but they'd probably want to join the other privates in SMU, Tulane and try and get Rice in the BE.)
7.UTEP(they deserve to be in the MWC ever since they were screwed out of it like Fresno and Hawaii)
8.Rice(If the BE doesn't take them and we snag a CUSA school or 2 along w/ the BE taking 2 more, they'd join if asked)

I have no problems with this list.

Mountain West might not be done; UTEP, other Texas schools discussed


Why stop at 11?

With the feeble state of the Big East and a wide-open lane to take control of the smaller conference realm, the Mountain West has room to get aggressive after Boise State decided to stay in the Mountain West and eschew the Big East.

Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said today the league has been in talks with 3-5 teams. San Diego State -- which originally planned to join the Big East in a package deal with Boise -- is one of them.

A league source says UTEP, SMU and Houston have recently shown interest in becoming members.

BYU is the biggest prize available, but the Cougars seem committed to independence -- at least for now.

Thompson sees his league having as many members as his board of directors wants, whether that's 11 or 14. ESPN first reported the Boise news.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...discussion

(12-31-2012 09:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:27 PM)szullo Wrote:  UTEP isn't awful but they should be a long way down the list of expansion candidates. Obviously byu and sdsu are the first two we would want and then are that Houston and smu. I'd take Tulsa ahead of them as well. If we can't get the Texas schools and decide to go to 14 or we can't get byu and go to 16 then we should take them.

Expansion Ranks(in my mind)
1.BYU(doubt they come, the church runs the show, not money, sports logic)
2.SDSU(seriously we'll bring them back)
3.Houston(has always seemed to want to stay east, didn't join the WAC 16)
4.SMU(will sick w/ Houston as long as they can)
5.UTSA(I think they have a nice market/Tx, lots of potential, nice stadium w/ fans going)
6.Tulsa(solid fb program, but they'd probably want to join the other privates in SMU, Tulane and try and get Rice in the BE.)
7.UTEP(they deserve to be in the MWC ever since they were screwed out of it like Fresno and Hawaii)
8.Rice(If the BE doesn't take them and we snag a CUSA school or 2 along w/ the BE taking 2 more, they'd join if asked)

SDSU, UTSA and UH for 14
id rather have UTSA with a growing fanbase and promising future then SMU
plus SMU is creepy, while the university grounds are beautiful, everyone there looks like they came out of a pre packaged "Ken and Barbie go to university" set

(01-02-2013 03:23 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:27 PM)szullo Wrote:  UTEP isn't awful but they should be a long way down the list of expansion candidates. Obviously byu and sdsu are the first two we would want and then are that Houston and smu. I'd take Tulsa ahead of them as well. If we can't get the Texas schools and decide to go to 14 or we can't get byu and go to 16 then we should take them.

Expansion Ranks(in my mind)
1.BYU(doubt they come, the church runs the show, not money, sports logic)
2.SDSU(seriously we'll bring them back)
3.Houston(has always seemed to want to stay east, didn't join the WAC 16)
4.SMU(will sick w/ Houston as long as they can)
5.UTSA(I think they have a nice market/Tx, lots of potential, nice stadium w/ fans going)
6.Tulsa(solid fb program, but they'd probably want to join the other privates in SMU, Tulane and try and get Rice in the BE.)
7.UTEP(they deserve to be in the MWC ever since they were screwed out of it like Fresno and Hawaii)
8.Rice(If the BE doesn't take them and we snag a CUSA school or 2 along w/ the BE taking 2 more, they'd join if asked)

SDSU, UTSA and UH for 14
id rather have UTSA with a growing fanbase and promising future then SMU
plus SMU is creepy, while the university grounds are beautiful, everyone there looks like they came out of a pre packaged "Ken and Barbie go to university" set

I was reading on the csi expansion board that SMU doesn't want to come even if Houston joins the MWC. Also hear that Tulsa will join the BE even w/o Houston since they want to be w/ Tulane, SMU, plus Houston out would likely mean Rice in.

I want UTSA over UTEP but understand all the ties UTEP has w/ the Old WAC.

(01-02-2013 03:23 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:27 PM)szullo Wrote:  UTEP isn't awful but they should be a long way down the list of expansion candidates. Obviously byu and sdsu are the first two we would want and then are that Houston and smu. I'd take Tulsa ahead of them as well. If we can't get the Texas schools and decide to go to 14 or we can't get byu and go to 16 then we should take them.

Expansion Ranks(in my mind)
1.BYU(doubt they come, the church runs the show, not money, sports logic)
2.SDSU(seriously we'll bring them back)
3.Houston(has always seemed to want to stay east, didn't join the WAC 16)
4.SMU(will sick w/ Houston as long as they can)
5.UTSA(I think they have a nice market/Tx, lots of potential, nice stadium w/ fans going)
6.Tulsa(solid fb program, but they'd probably want to join the other privates in SMU, Tulane and try and get Rice in the BE.)
7.UTEP(they deserve to be in the MWC ever since they were screwed out of it like Fresno and Hawaii)
8.Rice(If the BE doesn't take them and we snag a CUSA school or 2 along w/ the BE taking 2 more, they'd join if asked)

SDSU, UTSA and UH for 14
id rather have UTSA with a growing fanbase and promising future then SMU
plus SMU is creepy, while the university grounds are beautiful, everyone there looks like they came out of a pre packaged "Ken and Barbie go to university" set

I thought Houston always liked staying east. I figure they'll stay in the nBE and we'll add UTSA and UTEP. It would be cool if you came though

(12-31-2012 09:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:27 PM)szullo Wrote:  UTEP isn't awful but they should be a long way down the list of expansion candidates. Obviously byu and sdsu are the first two we would want and then are that Houston and smu. I'd take Tulsa ahead of them as well. If we can't get the Texas schools and decide to go to 14 or we can't get byu and go to 16 then we should take them.

Expansion Ranks(in my mind)
1.BYU(doubt they come, the church runs the show, not money, sports logic)
2.SDSU(seriously we'll bring them back)
3.Houston(has always seemed to want to stay east, didn't join the WAC 16)
4.SMU(will sick w/ Houston as long as they can)
5.UTSA(I think they have a nice market/Tx, lots of potential, nice stadium w/ fans going)
6.Tulsa(solid fb program, but they'd probably want to join the other privates in SMU, Tulane and try and get Rice in the BE.)
7.UTEP(they deserve to be in the MWC ever since they were screwed out of it like Fresno and Hawaii)
8.Rice(If the BE doesn't take them and we snag a CUSA school or 2 along w/ the BE taking 2 more, they'd join if asked)

Maybe you get all 8.

(12-31-2012 09:26 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Well if the Tulsa fans are right about the BE 10 sicking together, then Tulsa would rather join the conf. w/ Tulane and SMU over the MWC. So do we go to 14 w/ UTEP & UTSA? I'm sure Tulsa is at the top of the BE list.

Where were Tulsa fans saying this?

I think Tulsa's first priority is being with teams in Dallas and Houston, where we recruit heavily, and the second would be being with teams we have at least some history with and/or similar academic mission with. Houston, SMU, Rice, Tulane, UTEP, Memphis would probably be the top 6.

Realizing that we likely won't be involved with all of those, we'd want to be associated with as many as possible.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tulsa, SMU and Houston all either ended up in one conference or the other.

(01-02-2013 09:10 PM)The Eye Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:26 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Well if the Tulsa fans are right about the BE 10 sicking together, then Tulsa would rather join the conf. w/ Tulane and SMU over the MWC. So do we go to 14 w/ UTEP & UTSA? I'm sure Tulsa is at the top of the BE list.

Where were Tulsa fans saying this?

I think Tulsa's first priority is being with teams in Dallas and Houston, where we recruit heavily, and the second would be being with teams we have at least some history with and/or similar academic mission with. Houston, SMU, Rice, Tulane, UTEP, Memphis would probably be the top 6.

Realizing that we likely won't be involved with all of those, we'd want to be associated with as many as possible.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tulsa, SMU and Houston all either ended up in one conference or the other.

csn expansion board and the MWC board(w/ the annoying posters)

(01-02-2013 09:24 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 09:10 PM)The Eye Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:26 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Well if the Tulsa fans are right about the BE 10 sicking together, then Tulsa would rather join the conf. w/ Tulane and SMU over the MWC. So do we go to 14 w/ UTEP & UTSA? I'm sure Tulsa is at the top of the BE list.

Where were Tulsa fans saying this?

I think Tulsa's first priority is being with teams in Dallas and Houston, where we recruit heavily, and the second would be being with teams we have at least some history with and/or similar academic mission with. Houston, SMU, Rice, Tulane, UTEP, Memphis would probably be the top 6.

Realizing that we likely won't be involved with all of those, we'd want to be associated with as many as possible.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tulsa, SMU and Houston all either ended up in one conference or the other.

csn expansion board and the MWC board(w/ the annoying posters)

Okay. I haven't seen any Tulsa fans claiming any knowledge about what the BE 10 will do. Nobody on TU boards have made any such claims.

I feel confident in saying that IF Tulsa is offered the MWC WITH Houston and SMU, we would accept.

Likewise, If Houston and SMU stay in nBE AND we got an offer to join that conference, I feel confident in saying we would accept.

(01-02-2013 09:37 PM)The Eye Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 09:24 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 09:10 PM)The Eye Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:26 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Well if the Tulsa fans are right about the BE 10 sicking together, then Tulsa would rather join the conf. w/ Tulane and SMU over the MWC. So do we go to 14 w/ UTEP & UTSA? I'm sure Tulsa is at the top of the BE list.

Where were Tulsa fans saying this?

I think Tulsa's first priority is being with teams in Dallas and Houston, where we recruit heavily, and the second would be being with teams we have at least some history with and/or similar academic mission with. Houston, SMU, Rice, Tulane, UTEP, Memphis would probably be the top 6.

Realizing that we likely won't be involved with all of those, we'd want to be associated with as many as possible.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tulsa, SMU and Houston all either ended up in one conference or the other.

csn expansion board and the MWC board(w/ the annoying posters)

Okay. I haven't seen any Tulsa fans claiming any knowledge about what the BE 10 will do. Nobody on TU boards have made any such claims.

I feel confident in saying that IF Tulsa is offered the MWC WITH Houston and SMU, we would accept.

Likewise, If Houston and SMU stay in nBE AND we got an offer to join that conference, I feel confident in saying we would accept.

Is that you way of saying tallgrass excluded. Yes I excluded him. One of the Tulsa guys on the MWC board Tulsa Phan or something he might have been one of them. I think there are 3 Tulsa guys on there that have been talking about it.

(01-02-2013 09:49 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 09:37 PM)The Eye Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 09:24 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 09:10 PM)The Eye Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 09:26 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Well if the Tulsa fans are right about the BE 10 sicking together, then Tulsa would rather join the conf. w/ Tulane and SMU over the MWC. So do we go to 14 w/ UTEP & UTSA? I'm sure Tulsa is at the top of the BE list.

Where were Tulsa fans saying this?

I think Tulsa's first priority is being with teams in Dallas and Houston, where we recruit heavily, and the second would be being with teams we have at least some history with and/or similar academic mission with. Houston, SMU, Rice, Tulane, UTEP, Memphis would probably be the top 6.

Realizing that we likely won't be involved with all of those, we'd want to be associated with as many as possible.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tulsa, SMU and Houston all either ended up in one conference or the other.

csn expansion board and the MWC board(w/ the annoying posters)

Okay. I haven't seen any Tulsa fans claiming any knowledge about what the BE 10 will do. Nobody on TU boards have made any such claims.

I feel confident in saying that IF Tulsa is offered the MWC WITH Houston and SMU, we would accept.

Likewise, If Houston and SMU stay in nBE AND we got an offer to join that conference, I feel confident in saying we would accept.

Is that you way of saying tallgrass excluded. Yes I excluded him. One of the Tulsa guys on the MWC board Tulsa Phan or something he might have been one of them. I think there are 3 Tulsa guys on there that have been talking about it.

Tulsa phan is kosher