http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...ach_1.html

KB and Dunn might be in a world of hurt...

Article seems to suggest we never contacted him. He's "baffled" as to where the rumors came from.


This raises a problem for wmu and the rest of the Mac. Normally a guy like Spack would've taken a job in our conference in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, I think these guys are looking at their current pay vs Mac pay vs sun belt pay....and concluding that they might be better off waiting until the latter comes calling. The gap between fcs and Mac programs isn't wide enough right now.

(12-13-2012 09:05 PM)jubbasubba Wrote:  http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...ach_1.html

KB and Dunn might be in a world of hurt...

We'll be right there with em

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/kent-state/ken...e-1.355484

Saying you haven't accepted a job is VERY different than saying you aren't interested in a job.

Saying you're not interested in a job you're planning on taking makes zero sense.

Granted I haven't read all the posts on the board. But somewhere in another thread, it was mentioned that there was an ugly legal battle between the administration and Cubit over his buy-out clause, and the news made waves around the coaching community (evidently turning Chuck Martin off).

Is there any media source - even a blog or coaching search site - that offers any details about this? If I'm a sports reporter, it'd seem like a pretty juicy scoop to jump on. And WMU is a publicly funded university, obviously, so asking journalistic questions about financial wrangling and salary disputes is certainly not off-limits. If other coaches at different schools have gotten a whiff about this, then the story is "out there."

It's pretty bad when FCS coaches are publicly shunning the chance to coach at the FBS level. Is this job that bad? Even coordinators at BCS schools are turning down the opportunity. Hell, La.Tech got Holtz!!! WKU got Petrino!!!! Are we not on par with these universities? WTF happened to Bronco football? Embarrassing is an understatement.

(12-13-2012 10:51 PM)thegeneral Wrote:  Saying you haven't accepted a job is VERY different than saying you aren't interested in a job.

Saying you're not interested in a job you're planning on taking makes zero sense.

Not trying to

BUT, I don't see anywhere in there where it says Spack is "not interested in WMU."

We've been hearing conflicting reports lately about that.

What have others heard?

I wonder if that Bill Cubit guy could be talked into taking the job. He had a pretty good run in the MAC for a few years. I understand he runs a clean program, has an open style offense (which I like), has put several kids in the NFL, and has good connections in Florida (a hotbed for talent). I don't know if we could afford him, but if he is still available, he sounds perfect.

other then the title of the article.....

and there is this....

"I don't see that happening," Spack told the Pantagraph. "I don't know where that's coming from. It seems to be a very popular thing out there right now. I've been on the road recruiting for ISU and I'm very happy here. I'm committed to this program right now. I haven't been in on any other jobs. I'm not going to do that."

So when he says he is "not going to do that" is he setting himself up as a blatant liar? Not saying it has never happened before. Just seems like an extreme negative response for a potential hire. Uually they are a little more vague.

(12-14-2012 08:36 AM)brovol Wrote:  I wonder if that Bill Cubit guy could be talked into taking the job. He had a pretty good run in the MAC for a few years. I understand he runs a clean program, has an open style offense (which I like), has put several kids in the NFL, and has good connections in Florida (a hotbed for talent). I don't know if we could afford him, but if he is still available, he sounds perfect.

No. On second thought, a guy with a resume like that would never take the job. Just a pipe dream.

Persky- that also confused me about the mlive article. The only spot it said he wasnt interested was the title. And that was even a direct quote.

This is the proverbial monkey effing the football right now. Never seen an administration soil a bed so badly. Count me in as one who thought Cubit needed to go, but I had no idea we would run a search with people who were so blatantly underqualified. They need to hire a firm. Are the finances at WMU so bad that we cant get a hire comensurate with our standing in college football? Believe me, when I say that, I am not talking about some super star here, but a top D-1aa coach jumping at the opportunity should at least be realistic.

(12-14-2012 08:36 AM)Windycitybronco Wrote:  other then the title of the article.....

I get what you're saying but I guess the point that I was trying to make is that the title of the article maybe jumps to a conclusion?

(nothing against David - we have privately chatted about this already and we have our own opinions).

Just trying to play devil's advocate for a second here. And like you said, it wouldn't be the first time a coach has denied rumors and turned back on his word days later. Not saying he's WMU's guy, but I'm not ready to eliminate his name from the search quite yet.

(12-14-2012 08:36 AM)brovol Wrote:  I wonder if that Bill Cubit guy could be talked into taking the job. He had a pretty good run in the MAC for a few years. I understand he runs a clean program, has an open style offense (which I like), has put several kids in the NFL, and has good connections in Florida (a hotbed for talent). I don't know if we could afford him, but if he is still available, he sounds perfect.

Yes and the '50s were all Ozzie and Harriet, Ward, June and the Beav too.

No need to rehash why Cubit's termination was justified. A new coach is called for.

Rear view mirror - move on brovol.

Some coaches say they're not interested just in case they don't end up getting the job (to protect relationships with current players and potential recruits), and others say it and mean it. Which group Spack is in is anyone's guess.

(12-14-2012 08:46 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 08:36 AM)brovol Wrote:  I wonder if that Bill Cubit guy could be talked into taking the job. He had a pretty good run in the MAC for a few years. I understand he runs a clean program, has an open style offense (which I like), has put several kids in the NFL, and has good connections in Florida (a hotbed for talent). I don't know if we could afford him, but if he is still available, he sounds perfect.

Yes and the '50s were all Ozzie and Harriet, Ward, June and the Beav too.

No need to rehash why Cubit's termination was justified. A new coach is called for.

Rear view mirror - move on brovol.

Actually, after our last game I would have joined the Cubit lynch mob myself; so I'm not truly being critical of the decision to fire him. I am just kind of poking fun at the situation, and of our collective "grass is always greener" attitude. I just cant control myself sometimes.

It is a strange line of business to be in though. So many factors beyond your own talents and work ethic can dictate your future. On year you get the breaks, the next year you don't. Sure, the errors you make have a huge impact on those breaks; but at a mid-major, and particularly the MAC, the margin of error is far less than some other places.

If I were an AD from another school, I would certainly consider hiring Cubit.

I can tell you that Spack is indeed interested in the job. However, it's my understanding that he was expecting to talked to after his season ended, and that it didn't occur. Shortly there after the Shafer situation took place. It's quite possible he has decided to just avoid the situation all together.

(12-14-2012 07:50 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Granted I haven't read all the posts on the board. But somewhere in another thread, it was mentioned that there was an ugly legal battle between the administration and Cubit over his buy-out clause, and the news made waves around the coaching community (evidently turning Chuck Martin off).

Is there any media source - even a blog or coaching search site - that offers any details about this? If I'm a sports reporter, it'd seem like a pretty juicy scoop to jump on. And WMU is a publicly funded university, obviously, so asking journalistic questions about financial wrangling and salary disputes is certainly not off-limits. If other coaches at different schools have gotten a whiff about this, then the story is "out there."

No source whatsoever...besides DB bringing it up 2-3 times in the last 4 weeks.

For those in the know has Vegas offered any odds as to when WMU will name a head football coach????? HA HA not sure I would want to bet on that one about now.