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Football and basketball splitting?
Some are talking about it throughout the media. Some have suggested that football and basketball alignments should be separate. And some feel it's the next big change to come in college athletics. I say within the next 5 years it happens. The football dollar is destroying long time rivals and the college basketball game in general. Now there's talk of North Carolina being courted by the Big Ten. That's all it will take to split Duke and UNC up to force a separation among the conferences. One for football and for basketball and Olympic sports. If this happens, there could be as many as 6 major basketball conferences from the west coast to the east and none of this western school in an eastern-based conference anymore. Texas schools with each other and the midwestern schools. 6 major 14-team conferences of basketball-driven schools. You could soon see an alignment in basketball that features Duke, UNC, Indiana and Kentucky all in one super conference. Or a Pac-14 western conference that features UCLA, UNLV, Gonzaga, and San Diego State. Or, a midwestern conference that features Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, Kansas, Texas, and Oklahoma among others. And a northern conference led by Notre Dame that features Marquette, DePaul, Dayton, Saint Louis and others. The Big East then keeps it's name and tradition as a northeastern Conference and retains Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Temple, Georgetown, St. Johns, and Villanova.

Or, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati could get together then and recreate the old once powerful Metro Conference and add in all metro based schools.

However, mid-major schools who are lower tier in basketball like ECU or Marshall, or don't have driving name power or large markets, like football, would get left out. Those schools could then form a new mid-major super conference to still get an at-large bid into the NCAA tournament.
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11-21-2012 01:32 PM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
Title IX might be an issue. I have LONG been a proponent of splitting alignments up based on sport but you cannot treat male sports differently than female. For instance Syracuse basketball warrants a national travel schedule while womans basketball could be axed tomorrow and nobody would care. If not for Title IX you could have football conferences, mens basketball conferences, and then more regionally appropriate non-revenue conferences. This could save huge money for athletic departments.
11-21-2012 03:57 PM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
Basketball isn't splitting.
11-21-2012 03:58 PM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
(11-21-2012 03:58 PM)TUVideoGuy Wrote:  Basketball isn't splitting.

We're not talking about Big East non football schools splitting from football schools. We're talking about the entire landscape of both sports going into two separate conference directions. And some media sources believe it's coming. Strangely, they were the same ones who predicted what is happening now, the creation of a playoff system that separate the haves from the have nots.
11-21-2012 04:12 PM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
Of course, everyone could go independent and negotiate their own deals, too.
11-21-2012 04:13 PM
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(11-21-2012 04:13 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Of course, everyone could go independent and negotiate their own deals, too.

Memphis had looked into going independent in football to gain access to the Big East for basketball only just prior to getting the invite. But it would not have generated enough revenue to make it happen.
11-21-2012 04:20 PM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
(11-21-2012 01:32 PM)TennTiger Wrote:  Some are talking about it throughout the media. Some have suggested that football and basketball alignments should be separate. And some feel it's the next big change to come in college athletics....
(11-21-2012 04:12 PM)TennTiger Wrote:  [quote='TUVideoGuy' pid='8557130' dateline='1353531535']
Basketball isn't splitting.

We're not talking about Big East non football schools splitting from football schools. We're talking about the entire landscape of both sports going into two separate conference directions. And some media sources believe it's coming. Strangely, they were the same ones who predicted what is happening now, the creation of a playoff system that separate the haves from the have nots.

I think the only "media sources" seriously talking about this have been message boards and personal blogs/twitters 07-coffee3
11-21-2012 05:14 PM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
(11-21-2012 01:32 PM)TennTiger Wrote:  Some are talking about it throughout the media. Some have suggested that football and basketball alignments should be separate. And some feel it's the next big change to come in college athletics. I say within the next 5 years it happens. The football dollar is destroying long time rivals and the college basketball game in general. Now there's talk of North Carolina being courted by the Big Ten. That's all it will take to split Duke and UNC up to force a separation among the conferences. One for football and for basketball and Olympic sports. If this happens, there could be as many as 6 major basketball conferences from the west coast to the east and none of this western school in an eastern-based conference anymore. Texas schools with each other and the midwestern schools. 6 major 14-team conferences of basketball-driven schools. You could soon see an alignment in basketball that features Duke, UNC, Indiana and Kentucky all in one super conference. Or a Pac-14 western conference that features UCLA, UNLV, Gonzaga, and San Diego State. Or, a midwestern conference that features Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, Kansas, Texas, and Oklahoma among others. And a northern conference led by Notre Dame that features Marquette, DePaul, Dayton, Saint Louis and others. The Big East then keeps it's name and tradition as a northeastern Conference and retains Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Temple, Georgetown, St. Johns, and Villanova.

Or, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati could get together then and recreate the old once powerful Metro Conference and add in all metro based schools.

However, mid-major schools who are lower tier in basketball like ECU or Marshall, or don't have driving name power or large markets, like football, would get left out. Those schools could then form a new mid-major super conference to still get an at-large bid into the NCAA tournament.
Are you sure that you're a Tiger fan ... 05-mafia? Why are YOU posting this garbage ... 03-pissed? Right the only long term contract that the Big East has is the MSG contract ... !!!
11-22-2012 11:51 PM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
BB with football = multiple millions per school. BB without football = <1mil per school. No else needs to be considered.
11-23-2012 06:47 AM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
FBS football cannot split away -- what would be the Title IX equivalent for women? There isn't one... Title IX requires equal access and opportunity (# of scholarships and competitive access), which I think will rightly stand in the way of some of the college sports greed! Plus, I think it will eventually kill the idea of paying college football players stipends too! No way do schools want to pay folks of every sport men and WOMEN from track to golf or even tennis to be end up stay fair and equal.
11-23-2012 01:56 PM
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RE: Football and basketball splitting?
The Metro was a great conference and at one time included Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech. Obviously, a basketball only conference.
11-23-2012 04:02 PM
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