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Georgia State and representatives from the NCAA met via teleconference on Monday to discuss the details of the school’s FBS application as the school begins year one of the two-year transition. Georgia State resigned from the Colonial Athletic Association, which plays football on the FCS level, in April to join the Sun Belt Conference, which plays football on the FBS level.

Among the topics discussed, the school must meet a two-year rolling average of using 90 percent of the 85 scholarships (76.5) allowed on the FBS level.

The university currently uses 64 football scholarships and plans to use a minimum of 68, either by awarding four more full scholarships or by a combination of partial scholarships, which can’t be done once GSU becomes a full-fledged FBS member but it is still allowed to do now because it’s in transition.

Georgia State will award 85 scholarships for the 2013-14 year to meet the rolling average of 76.5 scholarships awarded.

Pity post

What are you talking about?

Ignore him until his school becomes SBC members or if you visit his school's board.;-)

(08-13-2012 06:53 PM)ATLGSUEAGLE Wrote:  Pity post

C'mon, can't you understand SBC fans might be interested in Georgia State football?

No he's a troll and he wants all GSU threads sent to smack.

(08-13-2012 09:16 PM)panama Wrote:  No he's a troll and he wants all GSU threads sent to smack.

To be fair, you've shown a tendency to get GS threads sent to smack.

But yeah, seriously, he's making us look bad.

Here's the thing. GSU is in the SBC so I have posted items of interest to other conference members. I have defended my school against lies and dammed lies. I posted for 2 or 3 years before we got invited in fact before we had a team and did my level best to not derail any threads. Lastly, I never started this. My every thought isnt about Georgia Southern. I have never have called Southern anything approaching the likes of Gay State o Thug U. Have never taken a poster of your players and photoshopped the uniforms pink. Since we announced football it has been a constant attack from you guys because of fear. Congrats, your worse fears came true. While there have been some good Southern posters 90% accross the internet are idiots which is why there are somany jokes about how pompous you come off. So if posting information about GSU on an SBC board and then waiting for said thread to get trolled and sent to smack represents some tendency then guilty as charged.

(08-13-2012 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-state-sport...ate_sports

Quote:FBS scholarships
Georgia State and representatives from the NCAA met via teleconference on Monday to discuss the details of the school’s FBS application as the school begins year one of the two-year transition. Georgia State resigned from the Colonial Athletic Association, which plays football on the FCS level, in April to join the Sun Belt Conference, which plays football on the FBS level.

Among the topics discussed, the school must meet a two-year rolling average of using 90 percent of the 85 scholarships (76.5) allowed on the FBS level.

The university currently uses 64 football scholarships and plans to use a minimum of 68, either by awarding four more full scholarships or by a combination of partial scholarships, which can’t be done once GSU becomes a full-fledged FBS member but it is still allowed to do now because it’s in transition.

Georgia State will award 85 scholarships for the 2013-14 year to meet the rolling average of 76.5 scholarships awarded.

Back on topic. It will be interesting to see how this is managed. Loking forward to a class of 24 to 27 this coming NSD

"Looking forward to a class of 24 to 27 this coming NSD." --Panama

So far, USA has 15 commits for 2013.

(08-14-2012 08:42 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-13-2012 10:48 AM)panama Wrote:  http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-state-sport...ate_sports

Quote:FBS scholarships
Georgia State and representatives from the NCAA met via teleconference on Monday to discuss the details of the school’s FBS application as the school begins year one of the two-year transition. Georgia State resigned from the Colonial Athletic Association, which plays football on the FCS level, in April to join the Sun Belt Conference, which plays football on the FBS level.

Among the topics discussed, the school must meet a two-year rolling average of using 90 percent of the 85 scholarships (76.5) allowed on the FBS level.

The university currently uses 64 football scholarships and plans to use a minimum of 68, either by awarding four more full scholarships or by a combination of partial scholarships, which can’t be done once GSU becomes a full-fledged FBS member but it is still allowed to do now because it’s in transition.

Georgia State will award 85 scholarships for the 2013-14 year to meet the rolling average of 76.5 scholarships awarded.

Back on topic. It will be interesting to see how this is managed. Loking forward to a class of 24 to 27 this coming NSD

So in the transition process can Ga State (or any transitional team for that matter) sign more than the typically allotted 25 LOIs? Say maybe 35 instead? or are the additional scholarships considered oversigning or potential grey shirts?

No you still cant go over the max (30?) per year. So year one of the transition become especially important towards getting to 85 in year 2.

(08-14-2012 09:02 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  "Looking forward to a class of 24 to 27 this coming NSD." --Panama

So far, USA has 15 commits for 2013.

Yeahm have been watching. Youre killing it so far.

(08-14-2012 09:34 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 09:02 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  "Looking forward to a class of 24 to 27 this coming NSD." --Panama

So far, USA has 15 commits for 2013.

Yeahm have been watching. Youre killing it so far.

Joey Jones went into the complexity of managing scholarships and when to not issue the max allowable during an alumni event I attended and on various radio shows.

It boggled my mind how much you have to account for.
Meeting minimum requirements, not settling for FCS caliber players when you know next year will bring better recruits, preventing massive starter loss to graduation, etc, etc, etc.

We lucked out because he was able to have 4 years to tweak his classes, manage recruiting, focus on evening out things, etc. With FBS in mind the whole time.

Yall already have a good core for your team.
I bet the short time to add that many players and replace players lost to graduation doesn't hinder yall too much.

But it is a much bigger challenge than I ever considered before I heard coach talk about it.

(08-14-2012 10:25 AM)Dedsquirrl Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 09:34 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 09:02 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  "Looking forward to a class of 24 to 27 this coming NSD." --Panama

So far, USA has 15 commits for 2013.

Yeahm have been watching. Youre killing it so far.

Joey Jones went into the complexity of managing scholarships and when to not issue the max allowable during an alumni event I attended and on various radio shows.

It boggled my mind how much you have to account for.
Meeting minimum requirements, not settling for FCS caliber players when you know next year will bring better recruits, preventing massive starter loss to graduation, etc, etc, etc.

We lucked out because he was able to have 4 years to tweak his classes, manage recruiting, focus on evening out things, etc. With FBS in mind the whole time.

Yall already have a good core for your team.
I bet the short time to add that many players and replace players lost to graduation doesn't hinder yall too much.

But it is a much bigger challenge than I ever considered before I heard coach talk about it.

Howard Schnellenberger, AKA - The Godfather of Startups, was invaluable for Joey Jones in figuring this out. I understand Bill Curry has burned up his phone line as well.
Unfortunately for GaSt, they are forced to raise the number of their scholarships athletes so quickly to meet NCAA FBS requirements that they will not be able to play a slow hand and balance the classes.
As we have discovered, the caliber of athlete you can recruit improves dramatically once you can promise them immediate chances of titles and bowl berths. The Panthers should do all they can to convince the NCAA to allow them to recruit fewer players this year. Otherwise they could be put in the bad position of either weeding out less-talented players for better ones (never popular) or honoring scholarships for lesser players and riding a wave of less wins but more integrity (slightly more popular but leads to more unemployment).

I am thinking that is why we only have commits. I think we're being more selective and not offering every zero and one star in AL, FL and GA. What USA, GSU, Texas State, ODU, Chalotte and UTSA have to manage in the next three years is unprecedented as we're going from zero to FBS faster than any group of startups before us.

Howard did a great job at moving FAU from FCS into FBS. He had us competative almost from the get go and we set many records on moving up.

After 2007 I think he coasted a bit and thought it would just keep rolling, which lead to the downward spiral the last 3 years.

I hope they let him into the CFB Hall of Fame. He doesnt have the winning percentage but NOBODY has impacted college football in general more than Howard Schnellenberger. He deserves to be in there.

I think the Schnellenbergers and Currys get in because of their impact on the sport.

(08-14-2012 10:35 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  Unfortunately for GaSt, they are forced to raise the number of their scholarships athletes so quickly to meet NCAA FBS requirements that they will not be able to play a slow hand and balance the classes.
As we have discovered, the caliber of athlete you can recruit improves dramatically once you can promise them immediate chances of titles and bowl berths. The Panthers should do all they can to convince the NCAA to allow them to recruit fewer players this year. Otherwise they could be put in the bad position of either weeding out less-talented players for better ones (never popular) or honoring scholarships for lesser players and riding a wave of less wins but more integrity (slightly more popular but leads to more unemployment).

We have 40 Juniors on our current roster. Not all are on scholarship, but we need to take as many as we can this year in order to help balance the classes as much as possible. Besides, as the quote above indicates, we have to have 85 on scholarship next year to meet the 76.5 2-year average.

(08-14-2012 11:55 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 10:35 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  Unfortunately for GaSt, they are forced to raise the number of their scholarships athletes so quickly to meet NCAA FBS requirements that they will not be able to play a slow hand and balance the classes.
As we have discovered, the caliber of athlete you can recruit improves dramatically once you can promise them immediate chances of titles and bowl berths. The Panthers should do all they can to convince the NCAA to allow them to recruit fewer players this year. Otherwise they could be put in the bad position of either weeding out less-talented players for better ones (never popular) or honoring scholarships for lesser players and riding a wave of less wins but more integrity (slightly more popular but leads to more unemployment).

We have 40 Juniors on our current roster. Not all are on scholarship, but we need to take as many as we can this year in order to help balance the classes as much as possible. Besides, as the quote above indicates, we have to have 85 on scholarship next year to meet the 76.5 2-year average.

Wow, that's a big number of juniors. You're going to have the price for that large of a class at some point. If given the option, I'd start right now by having the next couple of classes be more like 20 each and then go the max 25 after that to balance them. But, as you said, that may not be possible unless the NCAA let's you slide on the 76.5 rule. I assume they'll be a good handful of JC guys in this class. That will be helpful in terms of putting too much weight in one age group .