A playoff would be the death of bowls and the death of big money payouts. No matter how much we may want a playoff to determine the champion on the field, there is way too much money at stake.

I was watching Mike and Mike this morning before I came to work and they were talking about a playoff and using the bowls. They are so far out of touch with reality (Golic) it is sad. The average ticket price for the BCS championship (as reported) was $1800. I guarantee you that there were tickets going for way more than that. I know of an Alabam Alumni who paid $1000 face value from the school. The sponsors of the big 4 are making money hand over fist. You could not sniff a hotel room within 5 miles of the Superdome for under $350 a night. A playoff using the bowls would do one of two things: 1) kill attendance or 2) kill the money that the bowls/cities make because they had to drastically reduce prices to keep attendance up. You are now asking students/alumni/fans to travel to one city one weekend to then travel to another city on another weekend.

If you do a playoff, the bowl system would have to be scrapped completely and you would need a playoff of a certain amount of teams with higher seeds hosting until a championship game. Then you are back to the same arguement we are having here. Why was Team X left out? How come 3 teams for the SEC are in? Why did the Big Ten get 2? The smaller conferences will get screwed just like now and we would get even less money. Are we going to have a football NIT?

How is travelling to different cities in a playoff any different than travelling to different cities during the regular season? In any case you're going to need some locals. And you wouldn't need to scrap all the bowls. You could just turn the BCS bowls into the first round of the playoffs and go from there. Rest of the bowls don't need to change. If you have only 8 teams that's only 3 rounds. At least then more than 2 teams would have a real chance of being the national champion.

(01-11-2012 05:26 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  How is travelling to different cities in a playoff any different than travelling to different cities during the regular season? In any case you're going to need some locals. And you wouldn't need to scrap all the bowls. You could just turn the BCS bowls into the first round of the playoffs and go from there. Rest of the bowls don't need to change. If you have only 8 teams that's only 3 rounds. At least then more than 2 teams would have a real chance of being the national champion.

have you ever priced the tickets at these events? Like I said in my earlier post, an Alabama alum had to pay $1000 per ticket. This was aroundthe 25 yard line in the 300 hundred level of the Dome. And these were tickets he got through the school because he was a season ticket holder. Hotel rooms were $500 and up at most places. These cities and bowls are banking on those crowds and the money they bring in. Haven't even covered the amount of time you have to take off work to travel if you go to the second round.

In contrast, I attended the ULM TCU game this year. Ticket: I believe $40. Hotel near DFW: $85-$90

(01-11-2012 06:20 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  Hotel rooms were $500 and up at most places.

Dang, I would have slept on the couch for $300. AND cooked them a nice breakfast.

(01-11-2012 05:09 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  A playoff would be the death of bowls and the death of big money payouts. No matter how much we may want a playoff to determine the champion on the field, there is way too much money at stake.

I was watching Mike and Mike this morning before I came to work and they were talking about a playoff and using the bowls. They are so far out of touch with reality (Golic) it is sad. The average ticket price for the BCS championship (as reported) was $1800. I guarantee you that there were tickets going for way more than that. I know of an Alabam Alumni who paid $1000 face value from the school. The sponsors of the big 4 are making money hand over fist. You could not sniff a hotel room within 5 miles of the Superdome for under $350 a night. A playoff using the bowls would do one of two things: 1) kill attendance or 2) kill the money that the bowls/cities make because they had to drastically reduce prices to keep attendance up. You are now asking students/alumni/fans to travel to one city one weekend to then travel to another city on another weekend.

If you do a playoff, the bowl system would have to be scrapped completely and you would need a playoff of a certain amount of teams with higher seeds hosting until a championship game. Then you are back to the same arguement we are having here. Why was Team X left out? How come 3 teams for the SEC are in? Why did the Big Ten get 2? The smaller conferences will get screwed just like now and we would get even less money. Are we going to have a football NIT?

You are correct. I can tell you that people were having to stay in Gulfport and as far north as Baton Rouge for the NC game. Hotel prices and availability was ridiculous. If you do a playoff using bowls or neutral sites, the cost of attendance will be too much to bear. A diehard fan would have to takeoff from work for around a week and spend around $5,000.00 in hotels, flights, tickets and food to attend a football playoff should his team go all the way. That is cost prohibitive.m

(01-11-2012 09:16 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 05:09 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  A playoff would be the death of bowls and the death of big money payouts. No matter how much we may want a playoff to determine the champion on the field, there is way too much money at stake.

I was watching Mike and Mike this morning before I came to work and they were talking about a playoff and using the bowls. They are so far out of touch with reality (Golic) it is sad. The average ticket price for the BCS championship (as reported) was $1800. I guarantee you that there were tickets going for way more than that. I know of an Alabam Alumni who paid $1000 face value from the school. The sponsors of the big 4 are making money hand over fist. You could not sniff a hotel room within 5 miles of the Superdome for under $350 a night. A playoff using the bowls would do one of two things: 1) kill attendance or 2) kill the money that the bowls/cities make because they had to drastically reduce prices to keep attendance up. You are now asking students/alumni/fans to travel to one city one weekend to then travel to another city on another weekend.

If you do a playoff, the bowl system would have to be scrapped completely and you would need a playoff of a certain amount of teams with higher seeds hosting until a championship game. Then you are back to the same arguement we are having here. Why was Team X left out? How come 3 teams for the SEC are in? Why did the Big Ten get 2? The smaller conferences will get screwed just like now and we would get even less money. Are we going to have a football NIT?

You are correct. I can tell you that people were having to stay in Gulfport and as far north as Baton Rouge for the NC game. Hotel prices and availability was ridiculous. If you do a playoff using bowls or neutral sites, the cost of attendance will be too much to bear. A diehard fan would have to takeoff from work for around a week and spend around $5,000.00 in hotels, flights, tickets and food to attend a football playoff should his team go all the way. That is cost prohibitive.m

Right now you have 12 games and you used to have 11. Then you have championship games which you didn't used to have. At most you'd be adding 1 game to that. Not everyone is going to go to every playoff game. In any sport. If they can't afford every game, watch one on TV.

I still like using the bowl games as an elimination round then a 16 game playoff right after that. Could play college football until February. Of course no coach or school would go along with that, but as a fan that's what I would like.

The best scenario would be to play the intial games at the home stadium of the highest seeded team. Then, play semis at one of the current bowl venues. Then, play the championship game at one of the bowl venues. This would be the most economical, considering fans of the teams that go to the championship will conceivably have to travel to three neutral locations within one month and pay consider ticket and travel cost throughout. The three trips are (1) conference title game, (2) semi-final game, and (3) championship game.

So, for an LSU this year under the system I mentioned (considering a 16 multi-team playoff) they would have played the SEC title game in Atlanta, GA. Then hosted a first round playoff game in Baton Rouge, followed by a second round game in Baton Rouge. Next, they would have played a Semi-final game in the likes of Arizona (Fiesta Bowl). If they won that, they would have played the title game in the likes of Pasaena, CA (Rose Bowl). That's a lot of football for one, and a lot of traveling. Moreover, their fans would have been forced to shell out a crap load of money to travel to Atlanta, Arizona and California.

(01-12-2012 11:57 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  The best scenario would be to play the intial games at the home stadium of the highest seeded team. Then, play semis at one of the current bowl venues. Then, play the championship game at one of the bowl venues. This would be the most economical, considering fans of the teams that go to the championship will conceivably have to travel to three neutral locations within one month and pay consider ticket and travel cost throughout. The three trips are (1) conference title game, (2) semi-final game, and (3) championship game.

So, for an LSU this year under the system I mentioned (considering a 16 multi-team playoff) they would have played the SEC title game in Atlanta, GA. Then hosted a first round playoff game in Baton Rouge, followed by a second round game in Baton Rouge. Next, they would have played a Semi-final game in the likes of Arizona (Fiesta Bowl). If they won that, they would have played the title game in the likes of Pasaena, CA (Rose Bowl). That's a lot of football for one, and a lot of traveling. Moreover, their fans would have been forced to shell out a crap load of money to travel to Atlanta, Arizona and California.

Who's forcing the fans to do anything?