SEC adds TAMU and Louisville

Big 12 adds BYU

Big East does nothing.


Carry on.

(08-31-2011 12:18 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  SEC adds TAMU and Louisville

Big 12 adds BYU

Big East does nothing.


Carry on.

Don't expect Kentucky to sign off on Louisville, look elsewhere.

(08-31-2011 12:23 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Don't expect Kentucky to sign off on Louisville, look elsewhere.

Ain't no way.

(08-31-2011 12:29 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 12:23 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Don't expect Kentucky to sign off on Louisville, look elsewhere.

Ain't no way.

No how...

How does Louisville fit at all? Not a cultural fit and not a strong Southern football first school. At least not more than WVU or VT.

Yeah if Cajunnation's pick of Louisville was to pick an eastern division team to balance TAMU and avoid pulling from the ACC, West Virginia is definitely way ahead of Louisville and that's even before Kentucky slaps the veto on Louisville.

(08-31-2011 12:18 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  SEC adds TAMU and Louisville

riiiight, and North Korea is going to switch to a pure capitalist system tomorow.

(08-31-2011 12:52 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 12:18 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  SEC adds TAMU and Louisville

riiiight, and North Korea is going to switch to a pure capitalist system tomorow.

(08-31-2011 12:18 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  SEC adds TAMU and Louisville

Big 12 adds BYU

Big East does nothing.


Carry on.

Expansion predictions without merit will be met with :noisycricket:

(08-31-2011 12:39 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Yeah if Cajunnation's pick of Louisville was to pick an eastern division team to balance TAMU and avoid pulling from the ACC, West Virginia is definitely way ahead of Louisville and that's even before Kentucky slaps the veto on Louisville.

First of all, that veto is not as certain as you think.

Secondly, compare Louisville and West virgina with respect to budgets, football attendance, basketball RPI, etc.

They are virtually identical.



Lastly, I don't believe that merely adding West Virginia will increase the SEC TV contract at all simply because they are in a state not currently covered by the SEC.

If TAMU was not part of this equation, there is no way the SEC would even be entertaining the idea of expansion. The 14th school is needed simply to keep the current divisions intact.

It is my opinion that there are more people with Louisville ties who run in the same circles as SEC people than there are WVU people with similar associations.

I think it's gonna be Louisville because it's the easiest and simplest way to end this.

(08-31-2011 01:37 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  I rthink it's gonna be Louisville because it's the easiest and simplest way to end this.

Nothing about conference expansion has been about ease and simplicity. If all they want to do is balance the eastern division.

I would think Clemson, VT and WVU would all be above Louisville.

(08-31-2011 01:37 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 12:39 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Yeah if Cajunnation's pick of Louisville was to pick an eastern division team to balance TAMU and avoid pulling from the ACC, West Virginia is definitely way ahead of Louisville and that's even before Kentucky slaps the veto on Louisville.

First of all, that veto is not as certain as you think.

Secondly, compare Louisville and West virgina with respect to budgets, football attendance, basketball RPI, etc.

They are virtually identical.



Lastly, I don't believe that merely adding West Virginia will increase the SEC TV contract at all simply because they are in a state not currently covered by the SEC.

If TAMU was not part of this equation, there is no way the SEC would even be entertaining the idea of expansion. The 14th school is needed simply to keep the current divisions intact.

It is my opinion that there are more people with Louisville ties who run in the same circles as SEC people than there are WVU people with similar associations.

I think it's gonna be Louisville because it's the easiest and simplest way to end this.

Kentucky will say no. If word gets out that they're even being considered there will be such a hissy fit thrown by the Kentucky faithful, that it won't matter if the administration was even considering not vetoing the Cards, it would be a bigger headache than it would be worth.

And why double dip in states if you don't have to? And it's not as if Kentucky doesn't deliver a good bit of Louisville as is. West Virginia would deliver basically the entire state of West Virginia and a fair portion of Pittsburgh as well.

(08-31-2011 01:41 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 01:37 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  I rthink it's gonna be Louisville because it's the easiest and simplest way to end this.

Nothing about conference expansion has been about ease and simplicity. If all they want to do is balance the eastern division.

I would think Clemson, VT and WVU would all be above Louisville.

I agree with VT. They are the first choice, but like I said, geting VT will not be easy. Several political hoops to jump through there as referenced before in previous postings by Arkstfan.

I don't think they will be able to leave.

As for Clemson, where I question the "veto" of Kentucky in regards to Louisville, I don't in regards to USC using it on Clemson. That dog won't hunt.

And, as I discussed earlier, there is no difference between the Louisville and West Virginia programs that gives one the edge over the other.

(08-31-2011 01:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  And why double dip in states if you don't have to? And it's not as if Kentucky doesn't deliver a good bit of Louisville as is. West Virginia would deliver basically the entire state of West Virginia and a fair portion of Pittsburgh as well.

Again, I seriously doubt the West Virginia market will make ESPN's hearts flutter to the point they throw even more money at the SEC. THAT is what TAMU is for.


The 14th member is puting a period at the end of this sentence, not an exclamation point.

(08-31-2011 01:55 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 01:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  And why double dip in states if you don't have to? And it's not as if Kentucky doesn't deliver a good bit of Louisville as is. West Virginia would deliver basically the entire state of West Virginia and a fair portion of Pittsburgh as well.

Again, I seriously doubt the West Virginia market will make ESPN's hearts flutter to the point they throw even more money at the SEC. THAT is what TAMU is for.


The 14th member is puting a period at the end of this sentence, not an exclamation point.

The only way Louisville gets in is if state legislature applies pressure on UK to not veto.

Damn you! Damn you all to hell! You succeeded at pulling me into an expansion thread.

Ok, here you go. I the SEC takes A&M, then it needs one more and will probably go after 3. Need another in the west so I say they probably go after Missouri. Close and natural rival for Arkansas. The others will come from the east. Look for FSU, Ga Tech, and Clemson as natural targets.

FSU already plays Florida and it solidifies Florida recruiting for the SEC. Ga Tech already plays Georgia. Clemson already plays South Carolina. All three are rivalries that take place now.

Louisville really doesn't bring anything that those other schools do...better basketball maybe but nowhere near what they bring in football and football is king in the SEC.

Va Tech won't be coming as it won't leave Virginia. If it did, then it is an outlier. Some of you will say the same about Missouri but it has an easy travel partner with Arkansas and a ready rivalry..

If the SEC does go to 16 look for some traditional rivalries to go away. I don't see them scheduling more that 8 conference games and that would only leave one East-West game for the schedule. Goodby Auburn Georgia unless they really do some reconfiguring of the divisions.

(08-31-2011 01:55 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  [quote='MTPiKapp' pid='6761053' dateline='1314816572']



The 14th member is puting a period at the end of this sentence, not an exclamation point.

These guys will go for more money no matter what the cost. If they can add significantly more money by adding someone better than Louisville they will do it.

First A&M has to be invited to a conference. Nothing actually says that they are leaving. The way I look at it, they are just looking and if the right opportunity comes along then they know what their penalties are so they can leave.

Another thing that needs to be looked at is this may just end up being a A&M and Arkansas swap. Some money people in Razorback country want those old SWC days back and actually miss playing Texas and Oklahoma. A move to the Big XII would pretty much give Arkansas A&M's money (about $20M per annum).

(08-31-2011 04:22 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  First A&M has to be invited to a conference. Nothing actually says that they are leaving. The way I look at it, they are just looking and if the right opportunity comes along then they know what their penalties are so they can leave.

Another thing that needs to be looked at is this may just end up being a A&M and Arkansas swap. Some money people in Razorback country want those old SWC days back and actually miss playing Texas and Oklahoma. A move to the Big XII would pretty much give Arkansas A&M's money (about $20M per annum).

More money in the SEC.....not a reason for Arkansas to leave. Inability to win the SEC championship could be a reason.....best conference in college football right now is the SEC West. Arkansas helped kill the SWC, primarily because they were an outsider (not a Texas school).

The SEC wants access to recruiting in Texas. While they some limited success, as a whole it is dominated by the the Big XII....specifically Texas and Oklahoma. Those Texas players will now have an SEC school in the state. They will see Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and Florida coming in to play. Oh, what do all those teams have in common? They were the last 5 national champions.

Texas A&M joining the SEC scares the hell out of the Big XII!!

If TAMU actually gets the invite, the SEC will have shown that they want to expand the current footprint. Why wouldn't they try to do the same in the east? If you look at a map, the state of North Carolina seems to me to be the next logical choice. The SEC is already undisputed kings of football so why not try to boost basketball next? ESPN has serious wood over UNC basketball. I don't know if it would be possible, but I would be looking at UNC if I were them.