(06-15-2011 09:20 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: [quote='Burn the Horse' pid='6580088' dateline='1308065798']
does anyone on here consider themselves to be more Libertarian than Republican/Democrat?
I have an unfounded theory that most Americans not on welfare are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Libertarian best fits that - but guess what - the stupid Zionist controlled media splits Americans around stupid unsolvable issues like abortion so that we don't all gang up with common sense and kick all the Republicans and Democrats out of office. Divide and conquer.
THIS!!!
You had me with your opening statement but your finish is paranoid insanity.
Issues like abortion have have been raging for a long time because of two groups with committed, opposite ideals. Their actions that have led to furious political debate and that has led to media coverage.
The media and the Jewish community don't have an in-depth plan to control the country and the world beyond. As a matter of fact, the free media of America has been the most important factor in keeping our leaders as honest as possible for more than two centuries. Over those two-plus centuries there have been plenty of people with agendas but the media as a whole has been invaluable to the American way of life.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me . . .
I shouldn't have used the term Zionist because I am out of my depth and can't prove whether anyone is a Zionist or not - but the mainstream media in America is controlled and it controls the thoughts of Americans.
Freedom Fries? I mean France was right about Iraq and WMD and yet some Americans actually used that phrase Freedom Fries. That is straight up media mind control.
What about this video do you think is incorrect?
You can get almost any slant you want from a major media outlet today. How can they all be following some Zionist-Loving, World Dominating Overlord if that is the case?
Bashing the media is a great pastime that many Americans now enjoy. It is just based very little on facts.
You know who hates the media the most? Those that are exposed by it. I'm sure Jim Tressel or Anthony Weiner have few good things to say about the media today.
(06-15-2011 09:20 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: [quote='Burn the Horse' pid='6580088' dateline='1308065798']
does anyone on here consider themselves to be more Libertarian than Republican/Democrat?
I have an unfounded theory that most Americans not on welfare are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Libertarian best fits that - but guess what - the stupid Zionist controlled media splits Americans around stupid unsolvable issues like abortion so that we don't all gang up with common sense and kick all the Republicans and Democrats out of office. Divide and conquer.
THIS!!!
You had me with your opening statement but your finish is paranoid insanity.
Issues like abortion have have been raging for a long time because of two groups with committed, opposite ideals. Their actions that have led to furious political debate and that has led to media coverage.
The media and the Jewish community don't have an in-depth plan to control the country and the world beyond. As a matter of fact, the free media of America has been the most important factor in keeping our leaders as honest as possible for more than two centuries. Over those two-plus centuries there have been plenty of people with agendas but the media as a whole has been invaluable to the American way of life.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me . . .
I shouldn't have used the term Zionist because I am out of my depth and can't prove whether anyone is a Zionist or not - but the mainstream media in America is controlled and it controls the thoughts of Americans.
Freedom Fries? I mean France was right about Iraq and WMD and yet some Americans actually used that phrase Freedom Fries. That is straight up media mind control.
What about this video do you think is incorrect?
You can get almost any slant you want from a major media outlet today. How can they all be following some Zionist-Loving, World Dominating Overlord if that is the case?
Bashing the media is a great pastime that many Americans now enjoy. It is just based very little on facts.
You know who hates the media the most? Those that are exposed by it. I'm sure Jim Tressel or Anthony Weiner have few good things to say about the media today.
Anthony Weiner is an interesting case - why was he pounded by the media repeatedly and incessantly for more than a week, while the U.S. media straight up ignored the Bilderberg meetings?
Why is it that the major mainstream media is covering the Casey Anthony trial and not the Nebraska Nuclear Plant at risk of flooding?
A Google news search of Nebraska Nuclear Plant has no ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, FOX NEWS or Major Newspapers in the results as of the morning of 6/17/11.
Not one of these outlets wants to scoop the other for competitive advantage?
None of these media sources believe that Americans are interested in a potential nuclear melt down?
General Electric makes nuclear reactors and buys advertising?
Instead of hearing about it on TV news, I read about it in a blog.
(06-17-2011 06:34 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: One last point about controlled mass media:
Why is it that the major mainstream media is covering the Casey Anthony trial and not the Nebraska Nuclear Plant at risk of flooding?
A Google news search of Nebraska Nuclear Plant has no ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, FOX NEWS or Major Newspapers in the results as of the morning of 6/17/11.
Not one of these outlets wants to scoop the other for competitive advantage?
None of these media sources believe that Americans are interested in a potential nuclear melt down?
General Electric makes nuclear reactors and buys advertising?
Instead of hearing about it on TV news, I read about it in a blog.
Why is that?
That is more of a sad commentary on what the American people will watch in numbers that will generate the most revenue.
The same reason that Jerry Springer became famous.
(06-17-2011 06:34 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: One last point about controlled mass media:
Why is it that the major mainstream media is covering the Casey Anthony trial and not the Nebraska Nuclear Plant at risk of flooding?
A Google news search of Nebraska Nuclear Plant has no ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, FOX NEWS or Major Newspapers in the results as of the morning of 6/17/11.
Not one of these outlets wants to scoop the other for competitive advantage?
None of these media sources believe that Americans are interested in a potential nuclear melt down?
General Electric makes nuclear reactors and buys advertising?
Instead of hearing about it on TV news, I read about it in a blog.
Why is that?
That is more of a sad commentary on what the American people will watch in numbers that will generate the most revenue.
The same reason that Jerry Springer became famous.
Respectfully disagree that your mostly true statement fully explains the failure of mainstream media to cover important news. We saw flood coverage galore until a Nuclear Plant was in the flood.
Two quotes:
Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. John F. Kennedy
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
(06-17-2011 06:34 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: One last point about controlled mass media:
Why is it that the major mainstream media is covering the Casey Anthony trial and not the Nebraska Nuclear Plant at risk of flooding?
A Google news search of Nebraska Nuclear Plant has no ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, FOX NEWS or Major Newspapers in the results as of the morning of 6/17/11.
Not one of these outlets wants to scoop the other for competitive advantage?
None of these media sources believe that Americans are interested in a potential nuclear melt down?
General Electric makes nuclear reactors and buys advertising?
Instead of hearing about it on TV news, I read about it in a blog.
Why is that?
That is more of a sad commentary on what the American people will watch in numbers that will generate the most revenue.
The same reason that Jerry Springer became famous.
Respectfully disagree that your mostly true statement fully explains the failure of mainstream media to cover important news. We saw flood coverage galore until a Nuclear Plant was in the flood.
Two quotes:
Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. John F. Kennedy
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
So, I gather your theory is that certain "interests" want any indication of nuclear power being unsafe to be scrubbed from the mainstream media.
A quick Google search this morning showed me 326 articles about the Nebraska situation alone - USA Today, Business Weekly and host of television stations and local papers. Many of them have to do with officials having to refute unfounded internet rumors claiming the cover-up of a disaster and a large number of the rest are "articles" supposedly recounting what "really happened." (BTW, I also found a few articles from respectable news organizations reporting the concerns of Georgians about nuclear plants near where I live.)
Many theories, some wild, are presented as fact on the internet, making it possible for one to find something written to back up just about any belief.
The scientific principle of parsimony states that the simplest explanation that explains the greatest number of observations is most likely to be correct.
The simplest explanation here is that a small fire in a Nebraska nuclear plant that was easily contained and is not expected to cause any danger to the nearby community during the flooding is not as riveting to the American masses than a trial about a mother who may have killed her own child. Very sad, but true.
I also don't believe that a Jewish Cabal is pulling the strings for all the American media so as to further their nefarious agenda. The simpler, and therefore much more likely correct, explanation is that CNN, Fox News and all the other media have learned what drives eyeballs to their product and have tailored it to match. I am just thankful that in addition to the stories that pull in the viewers there are still elements of the major news organizations that fulfill their responsibilities by reporting on truly important topics.
(This post was last modified: 06-18-2011 07:25 AM by AtlantaJag.)
(06-17-2011 06:34 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: One last point about controlled mass media:
Why is it that the major mainstream media is covering the Casey Anthony trial and not the Nebraska Nuclear Plant at risk of flooding?
A Google news search of Nebraska Nuclear Plant has no ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, FOX NEWS or Major Newspapers in the results as of the morning of 6/17/11.
Not one of these outlets wants to scoop the other for competitive advantage?
None of these media sources believe that Americans are interested in a potential nuclear melt down?
General Electric makes nuclear reactors and buys advertising?
Instead of hearing about it on TV news, I read about it in a blog.
Why is that?
That is more of a sad commentary on what the American people will watch in numbers that will generate the most revenue.
The same reason that Jerry Springer became famous.
Respectfully disagree that your mostly true statement fully explains the failure of mainstream media to cover important news. We saw flood coverage galore until a Nuclear Plant was in the flood.
Two quotes:
Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. John F. Kennedy
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
So, I gather your theory is that certain "interests" want any indication of nuclear power being unsafe to be scrubbed from the mainstream media.
A quick Google search this morning showed me 326 articles about the Nebraska situation alone - USA Today, Business Weekly and host of television stations and local papers. Many of them have to do with officials having to refute unfounded internet rumors claiming the cover-up of a disaster and a large number of the rest are "articles" supposedly recounting what "really happened." (BTW, I also found a few articles from respectable news organizations reporting the concerns of Georgians about nuclear plants near where I live.)
Many theories, some wild, are presented as fact on the internet, making it possible for one to find something written to back up just about any belief.
The scientific principle of parsimony states that the simplest explanation that explains the greatest number of observations is most likely to be correct.
The simplest explanation here is that a small fire in a Nebraska nuclear plant that was easily contained and is not expected to cause any danger to the nearby community during the flooding is not as riveting to the American masses than a trial about a mother who may have killed her own child. Very sad, but true.
I also don't believe that a Jewish Cabal is pulling the strings for all the American media so as to further their nefarious agenda. The simpler, and therefore much more likely correct, explanation is that CNN, Fox News and all the other media have learned what drives eyeballs to their product and have tailored it to match. I am just thankful that in addition to the stories that pull in the viewers there are still elements of the major news organizations that fulfill their responsibilities by reporting on truly important topics.
Compare to an Anthony Weiner google news search:
Quote:About 27,500 results (0.14 seconds)
CBS News - Andrew Miga - Beth Fouhy - 54 minutes ago
Anthony Weiner speaks to the media during a news conference in New York, Thursday, June 16, 2011. Weiner resigned from Congress, saying he cannot continue ...
Video: What Will Weiner Do Now? The Associated PressWeiner's Last Words - msnbc.com
Rep. Anthony Weiner resigns, but will wife Huma Abedin stand by him? - Washington Post
SodaHead News - New York Post
all 4913 news articles »
AP, Washington Post, CBS and msnbc are normally all present at the top of news stories. These are major players.
Over 10x the results.
Something is wrong here. A potentially flooded nuclear plant in the midwest is BIG news - especially after what has happened in Japan.
Even if you think they are not controlled or working in concert somehow - surely you'd agree that the free press is not working like it supposed to work. Otherwise - there would be mainstream reporting on it.
ProPublica appears to be a good news source with journalistic integrity - and I just looked and they have the story.
I cant prove there is a cabal - or that it is zionist - but it is obvious that something is bad wrong. These are the same media outlets that promoted the lies that got us into Iraq. Great journalism. Don't use the government as a source - investigate the government by actually doing your jobs.
I cant prove there is a cabal - or that it is zionist - but it is obvious that something is bad wrong. These are the same media outlets that promoted the lies that got us into Iraq. Great journalism. Don't use the government as a source - investigate the government by actually doing your jobs.
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I don't think that you can blame the media for Iraq. Several governments and the CIA got it wrong. IMO Colin Powell would not have went before the UN and said Iraq had WMDs if he did not believe it.
(06-17-2011 06:34 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: One last point about controlled mass media:
Why is it that the major mainstream media is covering the Casey Anthony trial and not the Nebraska Nuclear Plant at risk of flooding?
A Google news search of Nebraska Nuclear Plant has no ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, FOX NEWS or Major Newspapers in the results as of the morning of 6/17/11.
Not one of these outlets wants to scoop the other for competitive advantage?
None of these media sources believe that Americans are interested in a potential nuclear melt down?
General Electric makes nuclear reactors and buys advertising?
Instead of hearing about it on TV news, I read about it in a blog.
Why is that?
That is more of a sad commentary on what the American people will watch in numbers that will generate the most revenue.
The same reason that Jerry Springer became famous.
Respectfully disagree that your mostly true statement fully explains the failure of mainstream media to cover important news. We saw flood coverage galore until a Nuclear Plant was in the flood.
Two quotes:
Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. John F. Kennedy
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
So, I gather your theory is that certain "interests" want any indication of nuclear power being unsafe to be scrubbed from the mainstream media.
A quick Google search this morning showed me 326 articles about the Nebraska situation alone - USA Today, Business Weekly and host of television stations and local papers. Many of them have to do with officials having to refute unfounded internet rumors claiming the cover-up of a disaster and a large number of the rest are "articles" supposedly recounting what "really happened." (BTW, I also found a few articles from respectable news organizations reporting the concerns of Georgians about nuclear plants near where I live.)
Many theories, some wild, are presented as fact on the internet, making it possible for one to find something written to back up just about any belief.
The scientific principle of parsimony states that the simplest explanation that explains the greatest number of observations is most likely to be correct.
The simplest explanation here is that a small fire in a Nebraska nuclear plant that was easily contained and is not expected to cause any danger to the nearby community during the flooding is not as riveting to the American masses than a trial about a mother who may have killed her own child. Very sad, but true.
I also don't believe that a Jewish Cabal is pulling the strings for all the American media so as to further their nefarious agenda. The simpler, and therefore much more likely correct, explanation is that CNN, Fox News and all the other media have learned what drives eyeballs to their product and have tailored it to match. I am just thankful that in addition to the stories that pull in the viewers there are still elements of the major news organizations that fulfill their responsibilities by reporting on truly important topics.
Compare to an Anthony Weiner google news search:
Quote:About 27,500 results (0.14 seconds)
CBS News - Andrew Miga - Beth Fouhy - 54 minutes ago
Anthony Weiner speaks to the media during a news conference in New York, Thursday, June 16, 2011. Weiner resigned from Congress, saying he cannot continue ...
Video: What Will Weiner Do Now? The Associated PressWeiner's Last Words - msnbc.com
Rep. Anthony Weiner resigns, but will wife Huma Abedin stand by him? - Washington Post
SodaHead News - New York Post
all 4913 news articles »
AP, Washington Post, CBS and msnbc are normally all present at the top of news stories. These are major players.
Over 10x the results.
Something is wrong here. A potentially flooded nuclear plant in the midwest is BIG news - especially after what has happened in Japan.
Even if you think they are not controlled or working in concert somehow - surely you'd agree that the free press is not working like it supposed to work. Otherwise - there would be mainstream reporting on it.
ProPublica appears to be a good news source with journalistic integrity - and I just looked and they have the story.
I cant prove there is a cabal - or that it is zionist - but it is obvious that something is bad wrong. These are the same media outlets that promoted the lies that got us into Iraq. Great journalism. Don't use the government as a source - investigate the government by actually doing your jobs.
USA Today is a player as well.
We will simply have to agree to disagree.
(06-18-2011 11:02 AM)mts305 Wrote: I cant prove there is a cabal - or that it is zionist - but it is obvious that something is bad wrong. These are the same media outlets that promoted the lies that got us into Iraq. Great journalism. Don't use the government as a source - investigate the government by actually doing your jobs.
I don't think that you can blame the media for Iraq. Several governments and the CIA got it wrong. IMO Colin Powell would not have went before the UN and said Iraq had WMDs if he did not believe it.
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Yeah it is a confusing mess. But the bottom line is that not only did mainstream media not catch the BS, but instead they broadcast it.
If we believe that the free press helps us keep government in check - as we should - then we were seriously let down by the WMD episode.
(06-15-2011 09:20 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: [quote='Burn the Horse' pid='6580088' dateline='1308065798']
does anyone on here consider themselves to be more Libertarian than Republican/Democrat?
I have an unfounded theory that most Americans not on welfare are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Libertarian best fits that - but guess what - the stupid Zionist controlled media splits Americans around stupid unsolvable issues like abortion so that we don't all gang up with common sense and kick all the Republicans and Democrats out of office. Divide and conquer.
THIS!!!
And yet 43% of Americans describe themselves as conservative. I would probably say your demographic would fall into the category inwhich you speak.
I got a little over zealous in agreeing to the post. I was agreeing before I read the entire post. "Zionist controlled media" is taking it a little too far. However, I do think that the Libertarian party fits me best. I do not belong to any party, and "go with my gut" on election day. That being said I almost always vote Republican. This is because I am a young adult with a job that pays very well, and I want to keep it. Republicans support the industry that I work in, and Democrats put moratoriums on it.
Amen. Alot of us on this buard are in that same industry.
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