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Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
I think the answer to this question is Yes. NMSU is too far away from the eastern Belt to recieve enough votes, plus, as WW says "“We’re not afraid to expand if there’s someone out there who will add value to the league, but we’re not going to expand just to reach some arbitrary number,” Sun Belt commissioner Wright Waters said. “I think we’ve got to find people who bring value to the conference.”

NMSU was a marriage of convenience when the Sun Belt was first getting started. Now, they are a mountain school that brings very little football value, in fact, they'd be a liability at this time.

As far as Tulane is concerned, they have no reason to leave C-USA. As others have stated, C-USA is putting money in their pockets. If they can't make it with C-USA's pay-out, they sure as heck will have trouble making it with the Sun Belt's.

What about Texas St.? Where are they again? San Marcos? Where's that? But seriously, the Texas twins may be quite viable in the future but for the next five years or so, they will NOT bring any value to this conference. So if we take WW at his word (and why shouldn't we as his words have been repeated over and over again by other SBC reps.), there really is no FCS who would 'bring immediate value' to the SBC memebers.

That leaves one and only one school that would bring immediate value to the members. If they've seen the writing on the wall regarding Big East/C-USA expansion and come to the realization that C-USA aint happening; then what? That's right, start plainning for the next 10 years outside of C-USA.

Given the performance of the Sun Belt over the last 10 years, plus possbile ESPN coverage, more bowls and a greater profile. The choice between a far-flung conference of start-ups v. the trending stronger Sun Belt appears to be a no-brainer.

So it's La Tech or bust as far as Sun Belt 'enhancement' is concerned.
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I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:
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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:

And I think we should be looking for a replacement for FAU. But hey, that's just my opinion. 02-13-banana
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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:


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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
(04-08-2011 11:17 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:

And I think we should be looking for a replacement for FAU. But hey, that's just my opinion. 02-13-banana

But your opinion, like all others, has a value of one03-melodramatic
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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
(04-08-2011 11:21 AM)MG61 Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:17 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:
And I think we should be looking for a replacement for FAU. But hey, that's just my opinion. 02-13-banana
But your opinion, like all others, has a value of one03-melodramatic

Another brilliant piece of analysis from mg61. You mind if I use that quote of yours? it's so profound. 04-cheers
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(04-08-2011 11:20 AM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:


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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
(04-08-2011 11:20 AM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:


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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
Tech isnt coming. They would rather rot then join the SBC. we just want to help them on their way to that.
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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
(04-08-2011 11:17 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:

And I think we should be looking for a replacement for FAU. But hey, that's just my opinion. 02-13-banana

That would be a plus for the kitties since we have been beating you at everything lately!04-rock05-stirthepot04-cheers
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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
(04-08-2011 11:37 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:21 AM)MG61 Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:17 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:
And I think we should be looking for a replacement for FAU. But hey, that's just my opinion. 02-13-banana
But your opinion, like all others, has a value of one03-melodramatic

Another brilliant piece of analysis from mg61. You mind if I use that quote of yours? it's so profound. 04-cheers

Thanks for the compliment. I thought the analysis was appropriately fitting for the comment. Please Feel free to use it at any time03-melodramatic
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RE: Can we Eliminate NMSU and Tulane from Expansion talk
(04-08-2011 11:09 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  What about Texas St.? Where are they again? San Marcos? Where's that? But seriously, the Texas twins may be quite viable in the future but for the next five years or so, they will NOT bring any value to this conference.

As a Texas State fan, I don't see us being the school that is being mentioned. But to answer your question San Marcos is located half way between San Antonio and Austin. So we do get coverage in both media markets.

Alot depends on what is meant by "value". If value is determined by the size of the media market that a school brings, then either Texas State or UTSA would bring more value to the table than La Tech especially.
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(04-08-2011 12:45 PM)SM_Bobcat Wrote:  If value is determined by the size of the media market that a school brings, then either Texas State or UTSA would bring more value to the table than La Tech especially.

As would Slippery Rock.
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(04-08-2011 12:45 PM)SM_Bobcat Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:09 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  What about Texas St.? Where are they again? San Marcos? Where's that? But seriously, the Texas twins may be quite viable in the future but for the next five years or so, they will NOT bring any value to this conference.

As a Texas State fan, I don't see us being the school that is being mentioned. But to answer your question San Marcos is located half way between San Antonio and Austin. So we do get coverage in both media markets.

Alot depends on what is meant by "value". If value is determined by the size of the media market that a school brings, then either Texas State or UTSA would bring more value to the table than La Tech especially.

Sorry you can't use the media market argument. It is strictly reserved for use by Middle Tennessee State University.
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Except Championships.

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(04-08-2011 11:53 AM)NCowl Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:17 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:

And I think we should be looking for a replacement for FAU. But hey, that's just my opinion. 02-13-banana

That would be a plus for the kitties since we have been beating you at everything lately!04-rock05-stirthepot04-cheers
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(04-08-2011 12:45 PM)SM_Bobcat Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:09 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  What about Texas St.? Where are they again? San Marcos? Where's that? But seriously, the Texas twins may be quite viable in the future but for the next five years or so, they will NOT bring any value to this conference.

As a Texas State fan, I don't see us being the school that is being mentioned. But to answer your question San Marcos is located half way between San Antonio and Austin. So we do get coverage in both media markets.

Alot depends on what is meant by "value". If value is determined by the size of the media market that a school brings, then either Texas State or UTSA would bring more value to the table than La Tech especially.

Just being in a media market doesn't bring it.
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(04-08-2011 01:09 PM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  Except Championships.

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(04-08-2011 11:53 AM)NCowl Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:17 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 11:12 AM)NCowl Wrote:  I think Wisconsin would be a good value to add to the SBC! :badger:

And I think we should be looking for a replacement for FAU. But hey, that's just my opinion. 02-13-banana

That would be a plus for the kitties since we have been beating you at everything lately!04-rock05-stirthepot04-cheers

you might of been football champions... but we still beat you!05-mafia

So like I said, of course you want FAU to replaced, all we are is a thorn in your side!
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I wouldn't trade a win vs fau for our Conference and Bowl championships.
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(04-08-2011 01:48 PM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  I wouldn't trade a win vs fau for our Conference and Bowl championships.

Yep. They won the battle but lost the wars.
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(04-08-2011 01:48 PM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  I wouldn't trade a win vs fau for our Conference and Bowl championships.

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