(03-25-2011 01:27 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Well if the BE came to UCF with a "football only" offer I think UCF would have to at least think about it. You would be at a crossroads and either road would have some risk involved.

If you take the football only invite....you have now really just pumped up your football program which is generally the money maker. You would have better schedules and better bowl choices with more money from that one sport than you get from all your CUSA sports combined right now. Yes, all your other sports would take a hit, especially basketball because really that is the only other sport that matters moneywise. You would typically have an empty basketball arena.

On the other hand, UCF could tell the BE to pound sand and then the offer would probably go to Houston or ECU so the CUSA league would automatically get weaker. You would risk being in a scenario where "This is as good as it gets". Yearly slate of CUSA opponents with 1 or 2 marquee games mixed in. You may have a chance to be a BCS buster but more than likely your best bowl destination will be the Liberty bowl to face a 6-6 SEC team. Your basketball team may do better in CUSA but if it made the tourney would typically be exposed for a CUSA team.

So I guess the question would be, would the UCF fanbase be able to stomach being in CUSA for the next few decades? Given both the benefits and the limitations that CUSA membership comes with. Again, that would be a CUSA that would be without an ECU or Houston football team that just got BCS AQ status. Would the fanbase be able to handle that?

They wouldn't have to stay in CUSA for the next few decades. They could pick up FIU as a travel partner and join the MWC. The MWC could stretch from the east coast of Florida to Hawaii then.

(03-25-2011 04:17 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I stated a fact, and then left it be. Then you came along, and that was your 26th post? That sure is another great contribution to the discussion from a UCF fan...

I'm really not offended by you. I know how hard it must be for you considering this forum and your 12 cats is the only thing keeping you from ending it all. I do think it's hilarious that you think posting on her often gives you some sort of status and merit as if you know what you're talking about. Bobby Bowden or JoPa could start an account on here and begin posting and you would feel like a big man by calling them noobs and pointing out their post count.

I hope the upstart slinky making internet business you run from your mother's basement takes off so we don't have to see you as often. All the best Jamie.

Are we sure UH wouldn't take a football only? Tom Penders made it very clear inhis book that UH's home basketball stadium is decrepit and needs renovation, leading me to believe that basketball is not a high priority there. Also keep in mind that their football stadium, while small, is really nice.

UH has a few choices in terms of where to move their other sports. Perhaps the Southland conference?

USM could go to the Southland, Sun Belt, or possibly even the Big South.

(03-25-2011 07:17 PM)uconnbaseball Wrote:  Are we sure UH wouldn't take a football only? Tom Penders made it very clear inhis book that UH's home basketball stadium is decrepit and needs renovation, leading me to believe that basketball is not a high priority there. Also keep in mind that their football stadium, while small, is really nice.

UH has a few choices in terms of where to move their other sports. Perhaps the Southland conference?

USM could go to the Southland, Sun Belt, or possibly even the Big South.

I don't know this for sure, a Houston fan would have to confirm, but I am pretty sure there football stadium isn't that nice either. There have been some renderings shown about a new one they are talking about building, but I have no idea a timetable on that.

(03-25-2011 07:17 PM)uconnbaseball Wrote:  Are we sure UH wouldn't take a football only? Tom Penders made it very clear inhis book that UH's home basketball stadium is decrepit and needs renovation, leading me to believe that basketball is not a high priority there. Also keep in mind that their football stadium, while small, is really nice.

I think you might be confusing UH's 70 year old football stadium to SMU's beautiful, 11 year old but somewhat small (32,000 seats) Ford Stadium.




UH's is now planning on raising (tearing down) their old Robertson Stadium (originally built approx 70 years ago as a city High School Stadium where UH was allowed to play their games but was finally given to UH once Corbin J. Robertson funded the renovation and additions), so that they can build a new one.

UH realizes they need both a new football stadium and a new basketball arena if they want to move up to the BCS level....which is why the school is in the middle of a $140 Million fund-raising campaign for these 2 new facilities.

Got it. Hopefully they can get that done.

FTR, I am permanently bitter towards SMU because of our 1989 game with them ("The Miracle on Mockingberry"). We were the only team they beat that year.

Last summer, after an extensive feasibility study that looked at all the options for football and basketball (including a Carrier Dome-type combination solution), Houston announced its plans to:

1. Build a new football stadium on the Robertson Stadium site for $120M
2. Completely renovate Hofheinz Pavilion, including the addition of a practice facility, for $40M

While it would be nice to do both at once, it appears football will get done first. We need to raise $80M to break ground, and the AD has raised $42M and is supposed to announce an 8 figure naming rights gift soon. IMO this stadium will be built whether Houston gets a Big East bid or not.

Raising the money to renovate Hofheinz will be easy if Houston is admitted to the Big East as naming rights become much more valuable under the Big East's TV deal compared to C-USA.

The only schools that are getting a FB only invite after Nova moves up in mid April are Army and Navy and they are remaining idependent. The only school that would take FB only invite is ECU and unfortunately for them, as strong as they are in FB and with a rabid traveling fan base and great stadium - they are not getting an invite.
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(03-27-2011 09:59 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Last summer, after an extensive feasibility study that looked at all the options for football and basketball (including a Carrier Dome-type combination solution), Houston announced its plans to:

1. Build a new football stadium on the Robertson Stadium site for $120M
2. Completely renovate Hofheinz Pavilion, including the addition of a practice facility, for $40M

While it would be nice to do both at once, it appears football will get done first. We need to raise $80M to break ground, and the AD has raised $42M and is supposed to announce an 8 figure naming rights gift soon. IMO this stadium will be built whether Houston gets a Big East bid or not.

Raising the money to renovate Hofheinz will be easy if Houston is admitted to the Big East as naming rights become much more valuable under the Big East's TV deal compared to C-USA.

Houston gets all this done and you will be attractive for expansion. According to your insiders most of this is a done deal and your President is in talks with the Big East having met with them in NYC during the Big East Tournament so it looks like UH to the Big East is basically a sure thing ?? Never would have thought about UH to the Big East but I guess with TCU joining that you guys became a viable candidate.

(03-27-2011 10:24 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 09:59 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Last summer, after an extensive feasibility study that looked at all the options for football and basketball (including a Carrier Dome-type combination solution), Houston announced its plans to:

1. Build a new football stadium on the Robertson Stadium site for $120M
2. Completely renovate Hofheinz Pavilion, including the addition of a practice facility, for $40M

While it would be nice to do both at once, it appears football will get done first. We need to raise $80M to break ground, and the AD has raised $42M and is supposed to announce an 8 figure naming rights gift soon. IMO this stadium will be built whether Houston gets a Big East bid or not.

Raising the money to renovate Hofheinz will be easy if Houston is admitted to the Big East as naming rights become much more valuable under the Big East's TV deal compared to C-USA.

Houston gets all this done and you will be attractive for expansion. According to your insiders most of this is a done deal and your President is in talks with the Big East having met with them in NYC during the Big East Tournament so it looks like UH to the Big East is basically a sure thing ?? Never would have thought about UH to the Big East but I guess with TCU joining that you guys became a viable candidate.

Two former SWC conference members in the BE - who would have thought or imagined it. Will need to go to 12 FB teams and a Championship Game though.

(03-27-2011 10:47 AM)panite Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 10:24 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 09:59 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Last summer, after an extensive feasibility study that looked at all the options for football and basketball (including a Carrier Dome-type combination solution), Houston announced its plans to:

1. Build a new football stadium on the Robertson Stadium site for $120M
2. Completely renovate Hofheinz Pavilion, including the addition of a practice facility, for $40M

While it would be nice to do both at once, it appears football will get done first. We need to raise $80M to break ground, and the AD has raised $42M and is supposed to announce an 8 figure naming rights gift soon. IMO this stadium will be built whether Houston gets a Big East bid or not.

Raising the money to renovate Hofheinz will be easy if Houston is admitted to the Big East as naming rights become much more valuable under the Big East's TV deal compared to C-USA.

Houston gets all this done and you will be attractive for expansion. According to your insiders most of this is a done deal and your President is in talks with the Big East having met with them in NYC during the Big East Tournament so it looks like UH to the Big East is basically a sure thing ?? Never would have thought about UH to the Big East but I guess with TCU joining that you guys became a viable candidate.

Two former SWC conference members in the BE - who would have thought or imagined it. Will need to go to 12 FB teams and a Championship Game though.

Makes me wonder if both TCU and UH can parlay their time in the Big East to a BCS Texas league when the expansion merry go round spins up again in future ?? UH unlike some us ie..ECU and UCF has been in the big time before and is just trying to claw their way back. The Big East would be a nice spring board to get there.