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(02-11-2011 03:42 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  
(02-11-2011 02:13 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(02-11-2011 01:37 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  
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(02-11-2011 01:13 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  Proctor visited UL, after several comments by writers, he "remained" committed to UL while visiting, only to then finally commit to FIU. Robinson is legit, but the story of they pulling the offer after Proctor visited UL because he was slated to visit FIU is not true.

Actually it's not, because I cover it. He was told that if he visited FIU, he was doing so without an offer from UL because it was the last weekend before National Signing Day. Once he told Hudspeth he was taking the visit, his offer was pulled and the Cajuns visited safety Eric Buckley that committed that weekend.

Proctor is a good athlete, but then there is the matter of his 2.4 gpa as well. How do I know this, because I covered his recruitment.

Well, the information you were furnished, and to which you erroneoulsy reported that is chronologically impossible. Proctor visited UL the weekend of January 21, when...after rumors he had committed to FIU were dismissed, perhaps by yourself as well, UL's officials dismissed the news then. The writer and everybody in UL was saying...during and after Proctor's visit to UL, that he was still and always committed to UL. Even they mentioned his facebook comment on Saturday while still visiting UL.

Of course, Buckley visited the following weekend, Jan. 28th...the last weekend of visits....
How do I know you were given false information or are wrong?....Because Proctor HAD already visited FIU the previous weekend, January 14th, and never came back to Miami afterward. The timeline you are reporting is historically and chronologically impossible. It's an excuse.

UL Head Coach Mark Hudspeth is out in the New Orleans area today visiting high school football prospects. It didn't take very long today for Coach Hudspeth to land "6-0", 195-pound safety Kenneth Proctor from West Jefferson High in New Orleans. Kenneth Proctor talks to the Cajun Redzone about his commitment to Coach Hudspeth today.

“Coach Hudspeth walked in and talked about what the ULL program has to offer,” Kenneth stated. “He told me I could come in and they would work me hard on the football field and in the classroom. Coach told me that he was going to challenge me everyday to give my best effort period. I want a coach that is willing to push me hard to perform; that is what I need, to have someone push me to give my best everyday.”

Proctor set the coaches a buzz early in the spring with his performance at the Baton Rouge Nike Football Training Camp. Kenneth showed good range and agility covering receivers in workouts at 187-pounds and flashed his speed running a 4.5 in the 40. Based upon his camp performance the NFTC staff voted him one of the top five performers at defensive back in camp.

Kenneth Proctor finished his senior season with 91 tackles, four interceptions, and five forced fumbles on his way to First Team 9-5A All-Districts honors on defense and Honorable Mention 5A All State.

Proctor couldn’t commit to Coach Hudspeth until his mother had several questions answered?

“My mother wanted to make sure that someone was going to make sure I stay on top of my academics,” said Proctor. “Coach Hudspeth assured her that academics are important in his program at ULL and promised my mom that he will make sure that I’m attending class and that I will graduate with a degree. My education is the most important thing to my mother and once he answered that question, I was ready to commit.”

With early offers from Tulsa, Memphis, Southern Miss, ULL, FIU, South Alabama and ULM, why did Proctor choose the Ragin’Cajuns?

“When it came down to it, ULL and FIU kept the offers on the table,” Kenneth stated. “ULL is close to home, so my mother can come see me play and coach was willing to take a chance on me right now. (Proctor does not have a qualifying ACT score yet.) Coach Rebowe told me I will have the chance to become a really good player at Free Safety in their system and I’ve heard good things from my friend Jared Martin about the program. ULL is the school I want to play football at the next four years.”


He didn't commit to FIU until his offer was pulled, so yes you are right that he still was committed to UL. They weren't committed to him after his offer was pulled and he only had one D1 offer left on the table, FIU.
The person that conducted the the interview has his phone number and spoke to his mother after he committed to FIU. I don't really care what you were told, because he has not spoken to you or anyone else you know personally. And he still has to qualify, thanks.

You are changing the history shamefully on all this. And for your assumption of my knowledge of anyone personally, let's just said you are....again....woefully wrong.

Let's recap with factual dates and you will, hopefully, see how your story is at the very least, erroneous in facts. Again. The story you quote above when he first committed to UL appeared in The Advertiser, by Josh Parrot, as it was printed on January 7 in the Advertiser....Note this was before he visited UL and FIU.

Now, your comments here state that Proctor visited UL on January 21 and he still had a "firm" commitment by Jan. 23, which might...or might not be...true, but let's assume it is. Here's the way you put it after it trascended Proctor switched back his commitment to FIU after his visit to UL:

Quote:"Okay, here is the story on Proctor. Proctor came in last weekend and told the staff that he was firm on his commitment. I exchanged a few text with him Sunday and he said he enjoyed it...looking forward to signing day. Monday and Tuesday FIU came in, and worked the kid over... got him to agree to a visit. He called Coach Hudspeth and told him he was going on a visit to FIU; Hudspeth told him that this was the last weekend of the recruiting period and that if he was going on the visit this late, we couldn't promise him he would have a scholarship. He told Coach he was going, so Hud pulled his scholarship and it will be offered to someone this weekend."

Now, the part in bold is just a plain lie, and unless UL has access to some sort of time machine, it is a chronological impossibility. Why? Again. Because Proctor HAD ALREADY visited FIU (Jan. 14th) the week prior to the weekend he visited UL (Jan. 21st), and this is a FACT that I'm sure UL coaches knew as well.

So, how can you say that Proctor told Huspeth he was going to visit FIU ("FIU got him to agree to a visit") the following weekend (Jan. 28th) , and UL pulled the offer PRIOR to his impending FIU visit, when that had already been to FIU 10-12 days before? You might not care what I was told, but I think you better care about credibility issues, since it's evident the information you put out was erroneous, if not a lie.

FIUfanatic, I had the visit dates wrong so I stand corrected. Having said that, you wouldn't have a freaken clue of what is correct because you have never spoken to the kid or his mother. But I'm sure its all first hand news from the local beat writter hundreds of miles away in Miami. As I've said, his offer was pulled when Buckley came in for a visit, but hey he was still committed to UL as you have stated right? Thanks

Now back to Isiah Thomas, or not!
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So stating that the kid was going to visit FIU the following week and that "FIU coaches got him to agree to a visit" for the following week, and because of that UL pulled the offer...when in fact everyone knew he had already visited FIU the previous week..... is not a distortion of the truth? Now, you are changing a bit the story, since I brought the correct dates, yet base the "pulling of the offer" on yet another thing.

So, the "new" theory is not that coaches pulled the offer when they learned he was set to go to FIU to a phantom visit the following week that never happened....or could not happen since he had already visited FIU..... but because Buckley came in for a visit several days later? Note, none of that was included in your quote as the reason back then, and does not make sense. Hmmm....
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His credibility on this one is 'Zero' Fanatic. If you hadn't caught him in this "lie", he would have continued to spew 'the fact' that Proctor's offer was being pulled because he went on a trip to FIU. Wow! That's just shameful 04-chairshot...I can see why he would want to change the subject back to IT.
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Is IT going to get suspended for the next game? You would think so, but no word from the league office yet.
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(02-11-2011 04:13 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  His credibility on this one is 'Zero' Fanatic. If you hadn't caught him in this "lie", he would have continued to spew 'the fact' that Proctor's offer was being pulled because he went on a trip to FIU. Wow! That's just shameful :chairshot:...I can see why he would want to change the subject back to IT.

Im kind of thinking the subject should have stayed on that lowlife, classless, POS anyway... we kind of got sidetracked...
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(02-11-2011 04:13 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  His credibility on this one is 'Zero' Fanatic. If you hadn't caught him in this "lie", he would have continued to spew 'the fact' that Proctor's offer was being pulled because he went on a trip to FIU. Wow! That's just shameful 04-chairshot...I can see why he would want to change the subject back to IT.

Sigh...again FIU fan, is it a lie he isn't eligible or that his mother didn't want him to play far from home? I really don't care if either of you believe his offer was pulled or not, because you had no idea who he was before he committed to your program. Now who is informed? BTW, the only one that has zero credibility is the clown Isiah "groping" Thomas.03-puke
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Cajun T....your sequence of the story is a lie, and you can't get out of it. Either you lied, or Hudspeth lied to you , or someone in UL lied to you, because you stated...again as a fact....that "Hudspeth told him that this was the last weekend of the recruiting period and that if he was going on the visit this late, we couldn't promise him he would have a scholarship. He told Coach he was going, so Hud pulled his scholarship and it will be offered to someone this weekend." Fact is that could logically, historically, and chronologically, NEVER be true or happened.

Now, the last weekend of recruiting would be the weekend of January 28th, which was in the future. Your credibility problem arises from the fact that escaped your statement of events, including what Hudspeth allegedly "told" Proctor, since it is....again....a chronological impossibility at the time you stated. All those detailed conversations that you made reference to, because Proctor allegedly was convinced by FIU staff to make a Phantom visit that never happend....and could never happened because he had already visited FIU the previous week....and Hudspeth's detailed comments on this "future" phantom visit to FIU, is a lie, an invention, and an excuse.
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(02-11-2011 05:38 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  Cajun T....your sequence of the story is a lie, and you can't get out of it. Either you lied, or Hudspeth lied to you , or someone in UL lied to you, because you stated...again as a fact....that "Hudspeth told him that this was the last weekend of the recruiting period and that if he was going on the visit this late, we couldn't promise him he would have a scholarship. He told Coach he was going, so Hud pulled his scholarship and it will be offered to someone this weekend." Fact is that could logically, historically, and chronologically, NEVER be true or happened.

Now, the last weekend of recruiting would be the weekend of January 28th, which was in the future. Your credibility problem arises from the fact that escaped your statement of events, including what Hudspeth allegedly "told" Proctor, since it is....again....a chronological impossibility at the time you stated. All those detailed conversations that you made reference to, because Proctor allegedly was convinced by FIU staff to make a Phantom visit that never happend....and could never happened because he had already visited FIU the previous week....and Hudspeth's detailed comments on this "future" phantom visit to FIU, is a lie, an invention, and an excuse.

I've already explained I've gotten the visit dates wrong, again you have no knowledge of what Proctor has told others because you have not spoken to him or his mother. I don't know what was stated in his facebook, because I frankly don't contact teenagers on such sites, its kind of creepy. So once again, you can continue your rant about the sequence of events, but I've first hand knowledge of his comments and his offer was pulled.

Now back to the "Grouper"!
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Wow. I remember when I read your story the first time how it made my chuckle the lie you were putting up with the little story of the conversation of Proctor and Hudspeth of his impending "future" visit to FIU.

Man...it's not about just the dates wrong, but about what you quoted as being said by your coach in order to explain his pulling of the offer in the context of the dates. The story, with all the details you included in it including what you state Hudspeth said to Proctor, just can not be true, simply because what you claim and state that was said, is a lie. Period. So, your story is based on a lie, since stating he was going to visit FIU next is a lie...regardless of the exact dates.

If I were you, I would accept I made a mistake and lied about the story, and was caught with the false story...or was lied by someone...and/or completely made up the story in order to make it more interesting to your target market. It makes you look better than trying to change your story as you go along, only to be proven wrong again.
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(02-11-2011 07:15 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  Wow. I remember when I read your story the first time how it made my chuckle the lie you were putting up with the little story of the conversation of Proctor and Hudspeth of his impending "future" visit to FIU.

Man...it's not about just the dates wrong, but about what you quoted as being said by your coach in order to explain his pulling of the offer in the context of the dates. The story, with all the details you included in it including what you state Hudspeth said to Proctor, just can not be true, simply because what you claim and state that was said, is a lie. Period. So, your story is based on a lie, since stating he was going to visit FIU next is a lie...regardless of the exact dates.

If I were you, I would accept I made a mistake and lied about the story, and was caught with the false story...or was lied by someone...and/or completely made up the story in order to make it more interesting to your target market. It makes you look better than trying to change your story as you go along, only to be proven wrong again.

Lie is a pretty strong term. You are looking like an ass using the term. We kid and pick pretty hard on this board. I am not here to make any friends. Some like me, some despise me, most tolerate me.....never once have I called anyone a liar. Lighten up, you guys hired a liar as your basketball coach....makes your administration look pretty bad... You defend this clown...makes you look even worse. T may have gotten dates wrong, etc... He apologized and corrected himself. A liar he is not.
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(02-11-2011 07:46 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(02-11-2011 07:15 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  Wow. I remember when I read your story the first time how it made my chuckle the lie you were putting up with the little story of the conversation of Proctor and Hudspeth of his impending "future" visit to FIU.

Man...it's not about just the dates wrong, but about what you quoted as being said by your coach in order to explain his pulling of the offer in the context of the dates. The story, with all the details you included in it including what you state Hudspeth said to Proctor, just can not be true, simply because what you claim and state that was said, is a lie. Period. So, your story is based on a lie, since stating he was going to visit FIU next is a lie...regardless of the exact dates.

If I were you, I would accept I made a mistake and lied about the story, and was caught with the false story...or was lied by someone...and/or completely made up the story in order to make it more interesting to your target market. It makes you look better than trying to change your story as you go along, only to be proven wrong again.

Lie is a pretty strong term. You are looking like an ass using the term. We kid and pick pretty hard on this board. I am not here to make any friends. Some like me, some despise me, most tolerate me.....never once have I called anyone a liar. Lighten up, you guys hired a liar as your basketball coach....makes your administration look pretty bad... You defend this clown...makes you look even worse. T may have gotten dates wrong, etc... He apologized and corrected himself. A liar he is not.

Thanks Zee, I've explained myself and it's time to move on.

Your right on Thomas, we've heard enough about his great recruiting classes, but the guy can't find his way out of a cardboard box. FIU thought they would get a huge boost in ticket sales by hiring a name but that's all they have in the long run. He is nothing more then a cheap PR stunt with a poor reputation. In the end, FIU still has an arena full of empty seats with a large student body. I remember you were one that stated from the beginning the Thomas hire was a disaster in waiting. Kudos to you for having this hire pegged from the beginning.
So much for the Hall of Fame "Groper".
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(02-11-2011 07:46 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  [quote='FIUFanatic' pid='6221174' dateline='1297469718']
Wow. I remember when I read your story the first time how it made my chuckle the lie you were putting up with the little story of the conversation of Proctor and Hudspeth of his impending "future" visit to FIU.

Man...it's not about just the dates wrong, but about what you quoted as being said by your coach in order to explain his pulling of the offer in the context of the dates. The story, with all the details you included in it including what you state Hudspeth said to Proctor, just can not be true, simply because what you claim and state that was said, is a lie. Period. So, your story is based on a lie, since stating he was going to visit FIU next is a lie...regardless of the exact dates.

If I were you, I would accept I made a mistake and lied about the story, and was caught with the false story...or was lied by someone...and/or completely made up the story in order to make it more interesting to your target market. It makes you look better than trying to change your story as you go along, only to be proven wrong again.

Lie is a pretty strong term. You are looking like an ass using the term. We kid and pick pretty hard on this board. I am not here to make any friends. Some like me, some despise me, most tolerate me.....never once have I called anyone a liar. Lighten up, you guys hired a liar as your basketball coach....makes your administration look pretty bad... You defend this clown...makes you look even worse. T may have gotten dates wrong, etc... He apologized and corrected himself. A liar he is not.
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Listen, funny you are talking about lighten up, when you are always bringing in controversial and giving it to most anybody here. If you've followed these boards over the years, you must know I'm almost always a pretty easy guy to deal with. So, please, spare me the saint-like attitude just because you feel like a cheap lawyer to defend your guy, and if it's based on name-calling, just read these thread to see how many names you call other people here (ass, clown, POS, etc). Talk about a clown attitude.

Someone lied in that story, it doesn't add up, and most objective readers would agree with it. Accept it, and move on.

When you don't have valid arguments on a matter, and when facts totally proved your statements were based on a lie (and it was a lie), you resort to deflect the obvious.
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A temperature of 86 on an early February day is a pretty good recruiter.
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I can think of a lot of cities more scary than Miami. When you're too cheap to fly to the closest airport to your destination (FLL is in a county north of Miami), then you must expect a ride and some traffic.
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(02-11-2011 11:17 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  I can think of a lot of cities more scary than Miami. When you're too cheap to fly to the closest airport to your destination (FLL is in a county north of Miami), then you must expect a ride and some traffic.

Really? LOL!

BOP said..."I chose to fly out of Ft. Lauderdale because it was cheaper, and it’s a lot closer to Boca Raton, which is the second stop on this road trip."

Just like every other corporation in America, Regent Broadcasting has a budget. BOP obviously is operating within those guidelines.. Plus if I remember correctly MIA is like a third world country....similar to LaGuardia.

I took my kids to see UL play at FIU a few years back. Definitely didnt want to get off the Interstate... The Burger King just off campus was scary enough for me.

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(02-12-2011 08:49 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(02-11-2011 11:17 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  I can think of a lot of cities more scary than Miami. When you're too cheap to fly to the closest airport to your destination (FLL is in a county north of Miami), then you must expect a ride and some traffic.

Really? LOL!

BOP said..."I chose to fly out of Ft. Lauderdale because it was cheaper, and it’s a lot closer to Boca Raton, which is the second stop on this road trip."

Just like every other corporation in America, Regent Broadcasting has a budget. BOP obviously is operating within those guidelines.. Plus if I remember correctly MIA is like a third world country....similar to LaGuardia.

I took my kids to see UL play at FIU a few years back. Definitely didnt want to get off the Interstate... The Burger King just off campus was scary enough for me.

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It really is a shame when reading comprehension gets in the way of making one's point.

When I flew into MIA, English was a second language.
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Wow but at least BOP got it right that Brandon Moore is a guard...if he got the scouting report he would know that Moore is a center.....
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(02-12-2011 09:25 AM)RomanFIU Wrote:  Wow but at least BOP got it right that Brandon Moore is a guard...if he got the scouting report he would know that Moore is a center.....

I'll pass that on to him...

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Since this has now become a bashing of Miami and South Florida from classy Zeebart and some new Cajun fan, it brings up the possibility of bashing that great resort town of Lafayette, but I will not do it. I actually liked Lafayette on my visits there, and most people... ...were nice.

Liar and/or Incompetent?

Man, Burger King....what a wimp.
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I would feel much less secure in Birmingham, New Orleans, Atlanta, New York than in Miami. I've been in parts of Louisiana and Arkansas where I wondered what language the locals were speaking. Get used to other languages, people.
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