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RE: USU and L.V. paper Reporting it's...USU/SJSU
(01-24-2011 04:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:50 PM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:15 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  The news is starting to leak. UTEP has turned down the MWC; so to get to 12 the MWC turns to San Jose.

WAC is down to 3 football schools plus the Texas Twins and Denver.

Idaho - Big Sky
NMSU - Sun Belt?
La Tech - Indy

or...drum roll please...NMSU and La Tech to the Sun Belt. We'd also need to welcome back Denver until...???

Ahhh, just one big happy family again. 03-lmfao

Hell no to Loser Tech . . . what a disgusting thought . . . 03-puke

Go SBC !!!

I think the Tech administration should be in lobbying mode for a SBC invite. It's apparent now that there will be no cusa movement and the wac is dead.

T-Won, got news for you, the Tech Administration has been in a lobbying mode, most on the bulldog barfs & whimps haven't a clue!03-lmfao
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RE: USU and L.V. paper Reporting it's...USU/SJSU
(01-24-2011 05:41 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 05:36 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 05:02 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:56 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  I think the Tech administration should be in lobbying mode for a SBC invite. It's apparent now that there will be no cusa movement and the wac is dead.

Should? Yes.

Will? No.

Pride goeth before the fall.

I don't think Independent is an option. It would be a nightmare for scheduling games. They aren't that proud. It has to be humbling to have San Jose State and Utah State chosen over you. It may take them another year to sit back and see if there is any more movement, but it seems inevitable that our home will be the SBC, if you will have us.

We know your pres has been burning up the phone lines to Lafayette the last few weeks.....
I'll take you guys back in a heartbeat, just to see some of those pompous asses on your board choke on it...(not necessarily you)

Z

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If true, then I am sure he has also been burning up the phone lines of his good friend Pres. Bruno at ULM as well...

Yes they have, Bruno, Savioe and Reneau are all good friends. They really don't have a clue!03-lmfao
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Other than the fact that Cal State-Bakersfield would get in a conference, I'm not sure why they'd even accept at this point, because they'd be a terrible outler.

Cal State-Bakersfield
Seattle
Idaho (FBS)
Utah Valley
Denver
New Mexico State (FBS)
Texas State (FBS)
Texas-San Antonio (FBS)
Louisiana Tech (FBS)

Throw three more Southland or Big Sky schools (or even a football-only member from the CAA) onto the pile and CSUB is on the fast track to follow New Orleans to Division II.
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(01-24-2011 06:30 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:50 PM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:15 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  The news is starting to leak. UTEP has turned down the MWC; so to get to 12 the MWC turns to San Jose.

WAC is down to 3 football schools plus the Texas Twins and Denver.

Idaho - Big Sky
NMSU - Sun Belt?
La Tech - Indy

or...drum roll please...NMSU and La Tech to the Sun Belt. We'd also need to welcome back Denver until...???

Ahhh, just one big happy family again. 03-lmfao

Hell no to Loser Tech . . . what a disgusting thought . . . 03-puke

Go SBC !!!

I think the Tech administration should be in lobbying mode for a SBC invite. It's apparent now that there will be no cusa movement and the wac is dead.

T-Won, got news for you, the Tech Administration has been in a lobbying mode, most on the bulldog barfs & whimps haven't a clue!03-lmfao

Do you know how bad that would piss off 99% of Tech's supporters? The biggest complaint about this whole situation is that Dan Reneau has been sitting on his hands watching it all play out. If we knew he was out there lobbying the Sun Belt as the MWC was adding WAC teams.... wooeeeyyy. The $h!t would hit the fan! But those guys know a lot more about what's going on than the fans do, and I think it's a good thing that they are not letting their pride get in the way of common sense. Of course no one wants to be in the Sun Belt... everybody in the South prefers CUSA, but you have to play with the hand you've been dealt. I hope they have sense enough to understand that... and I'm sure they do.
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RE: USU and L.V. paper Reporting it's...USU/SJSU
(01-24-2011 07:34 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 06:30 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:50 PM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:15 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  The news is starting to leak. UTEP has turned down the MWC; so to get to 12 the MWC turns to San Jose.

WAC is down to 3 football schools plus the Texas Twins and Denver.

Idaho - Big Sky
NMSU - Sun Belt?
La Tech - Indy

or...drum roll please...NMSU and La Tech to the Sun Belt. We'd also need to welcome back Denver until...???

Ahhh, just one big happy family again. 03-lmfao

Hell no to Loser Tech . . . what a disgusting thought . . . 03-puke

Go SBC !!!

I think the Tech administration should be in lobbying mode for a SBC invite. It's apparent now that there will be no cusa movement and the wac is dead.

T-Won, got news for you, the Tech Administration has been in a lobbying mode, most on the bulldog barfs & whimps haven't a clue!03-lmfao

Do you know how bad that would piss off 99% of Tech's supporters? The biggest complaint about this whole situation is that Dan Reneau has been sitting on his hands watching it all play out. If we knew he was out there lobbying the Sun Belt as the MWC was adding WAC teams.... wooeeeyyy. The $h!t would hit the fan! But those guys know a lot more about what's going on than the fans do, and I think it's a good thing that they are not letting their pride get in the way of common sense. Of course no one wants to be in the Sun Belt... everybody in the South prefers CUSA, but you have to play with the hand you've been dealt. I hope they have sense enough to understand that... and I'm sure they do.

I would much rather be driving a Cadillac CTS, but I don't! The reality is with the exception of Dwayne and a few others, the lack of knowledge or ignorance of the actual ongoings of the Tech Administration amongst the fan base on the Bulldawg barf & whimps board is overwhelming.
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(01-24-2011 08:50 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 07:34 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 06:30 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 04:50 PM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  Hell no to Loser Tech . . . what a disgusting thought . . . 03-puke

Go SBC !!!

I think the Tech administration should be in lobbying mode for a SBC invite. It's apparent now that there will be no cusa movement and the wac is dead.

T-Won, got news for you, the Tech Administration has been in a lobbying mode, most on the bulldog barfs & whimps haven't a clue!03-lmfao

Do you know how bad that would piss off 99% of Tech's supporters? The biggest complaint about this whole situation is that Dan Reneau has been sitting on his hands watching it all play out. If we knew he was out there lobbying the Sun Belt as the MWC was adding WAC teams.... wooeeeyyy. The $h!t would hit the fan! But those guys know a lot more about what's going on than the fans do, and I think it's a good thing that they are not letting their pride get in the way of common sense. Of course no one wants to be in the Sun Belt... everybody in the South prefers CUSA, but you have to play with the hand you've been dealt. I hope they have sense enough to understand that... and I'm sure they do.

I would much rather be driving a Cadillac CTS, but I don't! The reality is with the exception of Dwayne and a few others, the lack of knowledge or ignorance of the actual ongoings of the Tech Administration amongst the fan base on the Bulldawg barf & whimps board is overwhelming.

It is a case of living in a world as you wish it to be versus living in the world as it is . . time to face reality I would say.
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(01-24-2011 08:50 PM)CajunT Wrote:  The reality is with the exception of Dwayne and a few others, the lack of knowledge or ignorance of the actual ongoings of the Tech Administration amongst the fan base on the Bulldawg barf & whimps board is overwhelming.

I think you've got selective reading disorder. Of course you focus on the outlandish and those most opposed to your school. Our board, on the whole is far more logical than y'all give it credit for. Do we have some guys that are out there? Sure, we all do.

You'll see just how logical they are in the event that the rumors are true.

And, smack talk is great and all, but when the votes are cast, the Presidents will vote for Tech because we add value to the league. It makes dollars and sense (yes, that was a pun, but I am a horrible speller).
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I guess as a North Texas fan I don't hold the same animosity towards Louisiana Tech that many of you do. La Tech, as an institution, has done nothing amoral. La Tech's president made the right move when they left for the WAC, and given the same circumstances, any of the western Sun Belt schools would have done the same. La Tech saw something that appeared to be an outstanding opportunity and they accepted it. Now, as for the Tech fans, several on their message board are quite abrasive, but that's just message board fodder. Their fans were gracious hosts when we've played in Ruston, and wonderful guests when they came to Denton.

New Mexico State left the Sun Belt for the WAC with exceptional class and the good graces of all Sun Belt presidents, and because of this they should be welcome to return at their discretion. NMSU is traditionally very good at basketball, and the football program, although down right now, always had a fairly strong road following. You MTSU fans probably remember the 2001 game when a lot of NMSU fans traveled quite far to support their team.

And as for Texas State and UTSA, those schools with their 30K+ enrollments not only have incredible individual potential, they also have large athletic budgets and excellent markets which could greatly benefit the Sun Belt. Like North Texas, UTSA is striving to become a national Tier 1 Research Institution. Texas State has also made enormous academic gains in the last decade and it won't be long before they too strive to become a national research institution.

Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Having 7 schools per division greatly reduces travel costs, allows 3 home and 3 away division games. Two divisions gets the Sun Belt a championship game; play that at the regular season's home and it should be well attended and make for great television presentation.

Why ULM in the eastern division? The Mississippi River was roughly the divider, but though Monroe is just west of the river, the school is too close in proximity to La Tech for comfort. If the schools want to play each other yearly as cross-divisional rivals, then that's their business.

This conference is ideally made for traveling fans and tailgating parties. Is it perfect? No, we'd all rater be in higher profile auto-bid conferences. But here we are, let's make the most of the situation while not dragging every single 1AA school with a pulse up to the NCAA Bowl Subdivision.
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(01-24-2011 09:06 PM)Adler Wrote:  I guess as a North Texas fan I don't hold the same animosity towards Louisiana Tech that many of you do. La Tech, as an institution, has done nothing amoral. La Tech's president made the right move when they left for the WAC, and given the same circumstances, any of the western Sun Belt schools would have done the same. La Tech saw something that appeared to be an outstanding opportunity and they accepted it. Now, as for the Tech fans, several on their message board are quite abrasive, but that's just message board fodder. Their fans were gracious hosts when we've played in Ruston, and wonderful guests when they came to Denton.

New Mexico State left the Sun Belt for the WAC with exceptional class and the good graces of all Sun Belt presidents, and because of this they should be welcome to return at their discretion. NMSU is traditionally very good at basketball, and the football program, although down right now, always had a fairly strong road following. You MTSU fans probably remember the 2001 game when a lot of NMSU fans traveled quite far to support their team.

And as for Texas State and UTSA, those schools with their 30K+ enrollments not only have incredible individual potential, they also have large athletic budgets and excellent markets which could greatly benefit the Sun Belt. Like North Texas, UTSA is striving to become a national Tier 1 Research Institution. Texas State has also made enormous academic gains in the last decade and it won't be long before they too strive to become a national research institution.

Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Having 7 schools per division greatly reduces travel costs, allows 3 home and 3 away division games. Two divisions gets the Sun Belt a championship game; play that at the regular season's home and it should be well attended and make for great television presentation.

Why ULM in the eastern division? The Mississippi River was roughly the divider, but though Monroe is just west of the river, the school is too close in proximity to La Tech for comfort. If the schools want to play each other yearly as cross-divisional rivals, then that's their business.

This conference is ideally made for traveling fans and tailgating parties. Is it perfect? No, we'd all rater be in higher profile auto-bid conferences. But here we are, let's make the most of the situation while not dragging every single 1AA school with a pulse up to the NCAA Bowl Subdivision.

Just say NO to Loser Tech . . they bring nothing to the SBC of any real value.
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(01-24-2011 09:06 PM)Adler Wrote:  I guess as a North Texas fan I don't hold the same animosity towards Louisiana Tech that many of you do. La Tech, as an institution, has done nothing amoral. La Tech's president made the right move when they left for the WAC, and given the same circumstances, any of the western Sun Belt schools would have done the same. La Tech saw something that appeared to be an outstanding opportunity and they accepted it. Now, as for the Tech fans, several on their message board are quite abrasive, but that's just message board fodder. Their fans were gracious hosts when we've played in Ruston, and wonderful guests when they came to Denton.

New Mexico State left the Sun Belt for the WAC with exceptional class and the good graces of all Sun Belt presidents, and because of this they should be welcome to return at their discretion. NMSU is traditionally very good at basketball, and the football program, although down right now, always had a fairly strong road following. You MTSU fans probably remember the 2001 game when a lot of NMSU fans traveled quite far to support their team.

And as for Texas State and UTSA, those schools with their 30K+ enrollments not only have incredible individual potential, they also have large athletic budgets and excellent markets which could greatly benefit the Sun Belt. Like North Texas, UTSA is striving to become a national Tier 1 Research Institution. Texas State has also made enormous academic gains in the last decade and it won't be long before they too strive to become a national research institution.

Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Having 7 schools per division greatly reduces travel costs, allows 3 home and 3 away division games. Two divisions gets the Sun Belt a championship game; play that at the regular season's home and it should be well attended and make for great television presentation.

Why ULM in the eastern division? The Mississippi River was roughly the divider, but though Monroe is just west of the river, the school is too close in proximity to La Tech for comfort. If the schools want to play each other yearly as cross-divisional rivals, then that's their business.

This conference is ideally made for traveling fans and tailgating parties. Is it perfect? No, we'd all rater be in higher profile auto-bid conferences. But here we are, let's make the most of the situation while not dragging every single 1AA school with a pulse up to the NCAA Bowl Subdivision.

We may need to start preparing as a league to offer UTSA as well. They havent actually started football yet, but they have a gigantic market in San Antonio, and it would give South Alabama a partner.

Dont necessarily have to, but the San Antonio market would be a big get for us as a league.

Tech is only allowed in if they beg really well. And then we make sure their first ever conference game is in Monroe LA
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(01-24-2011 09:06 PM)Adler Wrote:  Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Having 7 schools per division greatly reduces travel costs, allows 3 home and 3 away division games. Two divisions gets the Sun Belt a championship game; play that at the regular season's home and it should be well attended and make for great television presentation.

Why ULM in the eastern division? The Mississippi River was roughly the divider, but though Monroe is just west of the river, the school is too close in proximity to La Tech for comfort. If the schools want to play each other yearly as cross-divisional rivals, then that's their business.

This conference is ideally made for traveling fans and tailgating parties. Is it perfect? No, we'd all rater be in higher profile auto-bid conferences. But here we are, let's make the most of the situation while not dragging every single 1AA school with a pulse up to the NCAA Bowl Subdivision.

ULM in the east makes no sense. There is no rational explanation as to why a lower tier conference would separate a school in this instance so as to cause that school to incur such extreme travel costs. If it is going to be done (a 7 team division), then it will have to be done fair and even, with equitable travel opportuities for all. If anything, ULL is closer to USA, so why no place them in the east under your scenario...your logic would be akin to saying since UNC and DUKE are close to one another let's place them in separate divisions.
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(01-24-2011 09:14 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 09:06 PM)Adler Wrote:  Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Tech is only allowed in if they beg really well.

Tech is in when their enormously large entrance fee check clears. 03-lmfao (just kidding Tech fans)

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(01-24-2011 09:14 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 09:06 PM)Adler Wrote:  I guess as a North Texas fan I don't hold the same animosity towards Louisiana Tech that many of you do. La Tech, as an institution, has done nothing amoral. La Tech's president made the right move when they left for the WAC, and given the same circumstances, any of the western Sun Belt schools would have done the same. La Tech saw something that appeared to be an outstanding opportunity and they accepted it. Now, as for the Tech fans, several on their message board are quite abrasive, but that's just message board fodder. Their fans were gracious hosts when we've played in Ruston, and wonderful guests when they came to Denton.

New Mexico State left the Sun Belt for the WAC with exceptional class and the good graces of all Sun Belt presidents, and because of this they should be welcome to return at their discretion. NMSU is traditionally very good at basketball, and the football program, although down right now, always had a fairly strong road following. You MTSU fans probably remember the 2001 game when a lot of NMSU fans traveled quite far to support their team.

And as for Texas State and UTSA, those schools with their 30K+ enrollments not only have incredible individual potential, they also have large athletic budgets and excellent markets which could greatly benefit the Sun Belt. Like North Texas, UTSA is striving to become a national Tier 1 Research Institution. Texas State has also made enormous academic gains in the last decade and it won't be long before they too strive to become a national research institution.

Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Having 7 schools per division greatly reduces travel costs, allows 3 home and 3 away division games. Two divisions gets the Sun Belt a championship game; play that at the regular season's home and it should be well attended and make for great television presentation.

Why ULM in the eastern division? The Mississippi River was roughly the divider, but though Monroe is just west of the river, the school is too close in proximity to La Tech for comfort. If the schools want to play each other yearly as cross-divisional rivals, then that's their business.

This conference is ideally made for traveling fans and tailgating parties. Is it perfect? No, we'd all rater be in higher profile auto-bid conferences. But here we are, let's make the most of the situation while not dragging every single 1AA school with a pulse up to the NCAA Bowl Subdivision.

We may need to start preparing as a league to offer UTSA as well. They havent actually started football yet, but they have a gigantic market in San Antonio, and it would give South Alabama a partner.

Dont necessarily have to, but the San Antonio market would be a big get for us as a league.

Tech is only allowed in if they beg really well. And then we make sure their first ever conference game is in Monroe LA

Hell no to that part. When is the last time ULM beat a rival in ANYTHING?
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we could always pay off the officials. Done it to MTSU without them knowing for years...how would Tech ever find out
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(01-24-2011 09:06 PM)Adler Wrote:  I guess as a North Texas fan I don't hold the same animosity towards Louisiana Tech that many of you do. La Tech, as an institution, has done nothing amoral. La Tech's president made the right move when they left for the WAC, and given the same circumstances, any of the western Sun Belt schools would have done the same. La Tech saw something that appeared to be an outstanding opportunity and they accepted it. Now, as for the Tech fans, several on their message board are quite abrasive, but that's just message board fodder. Their fans were gracious hosts when we've played in Ruston, and wonderful guests when they came to Denton.

New Mexico State left the Sun Belt for the WAC with exceptional class and the good graces of all Sun Belt presidents, and because of this they should be welcome to return at their discretion. NMSU is traditionally very good at basketball, and the football program, although down right now, always had a fairly strong road following. You MTSU fans probably remember the 2001 game when a lot of NMSU fans traveled quite far to support their team.

And as for Texas State and UTSA, those schools with their 30K+ enrollments not only have incredible individual potential, they also have large athletic budgets and excellent markets which could greatly benefit the Sun Belt. Like North Texas, UTSA is striving to become a national Tier 1 Research Institution. Texas State has also made enormous academic gains in the last decade and it won't be long before they too strive to become a national research institution.

Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Having 7 schools per division greatly reduces travel costs, allows 3 home and 3 away division games. Two divisions gets the Sun Belt a championship game; play that at the regular season's home and it should be well attended and make for great television presentation.

Why ULM in the eastern division? The Mississippi River was roughly the divider, but though Monroe is just west of the river, the school is too close in proximity to La Tech for comfort. If the schools want to play each other yearly as cross-divisional rivals, then that's their business.

This conference is ideally made for traveling fans and tailgating parties. Is it perfect? No, we'd all rater be in higher profile auto-bid conferences. But here we are, let's make the most of the situation while not dragging every single 1AA school with a pulse up to the NCAA Bowl Subdivision.

I don't have a problem with Tech taking the WAC invite - that was a smart move back in 2001. They joined a league with SMU, Rice, and Tulsa. What I do have a problem with is Tech threatening to pull out the of Independence Bowl rather than play the game that the bowl organizers wanted to put together - all to avoid playing UL in a bowl game. It would have been a sell out and the Indy Bowl had an MOU with the Belt at the time. Tech forced the Indy Bowl to find a loophole so that they could play a 6-6 MAC team that brought less than 100 fans rather than a 6-6 Belt (In State) team that would have brought 15,000+ fans. That is fairly new history and the type of bad blood that will hurt Tech.
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(01-24-2011 09:05 PM)johnnylightnin Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 08:50 PM)CajunT Wrote:  The reality is with the exception of Dwayne and a few others, the lack of knowledge or ignorance of the actual ongoings of the Tech Administration amongst the fan base on the Bulldawg barf & whimps board is overwhelming.

I think you've got selective reading disorder. Of course you focus on the outlandish and those most opposed to your school. Our board, on the whole is far more logical than y'all give it credit for. Do we have some guys that are out there? Sure, we all do.

You'll see just how logical they are in the event that the rumors are true.

And, smack talk is great and all, but when the votes are cast, the Presidents will vote for Tech because we add value to the league. It makes dollars and sense (yes, that was a pun, but I am a horrible speller).
Johnny, there are very few that know or believe Tech has been on the phone with SBC programs behind the scenes. Hell, everytime it was stated on this board that your AD Rip Van Winkle called Scott Farmer about scheduling the Cajuns, you were in denial. I'm not talking about some of the goofy or ignorant comments coming from the Tech board like the idea of going independent, I'm talking about the actual knowledge of the ongoings inside the Tech administration. That has nothing to do with selective memory, that my friend is your problem.
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When it comes to Tech all I can say is that if the SBC has not learned from history with regard to Tech then the conference may be doomed to repeat its missteps with Tech.
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(01-24-2011 09:26 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 09:06 PM)Adler Wrote:  Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Having 7 schools per division greatly reduces travel costs, allows 3 home and 3 away division games. Two divisions gets the Sun Belt a championship game; play that at the regular season's home and it should be well attended and make for great television presentation.

Why ULM in the eastern division? The Mississippi River was roughly the divider, but though Monroe is just west of the river, the school is too close in proximity to La Tech for comfort. If the schools want to play each other yearly as cross-divisional rivals, then that's their business.

This conference is ideally made for traveling fans and tailgating parties. Is it perfect? No, we'd all rater be in higher profile auto-bid conferences. But here we are, let's make the most of the situation while not dragging every single 1AA school with a pulse up to the NCAA Bowl Subdivision.

ULM in the east makes no sense. There is no rational explanation as to why a lower tier conference would separate a school in this instance so as to cause that school to incur such extreme travel costs. If it is going to be done (a 7 team division), then it will have to be done fair and even, with equitable travel opportuities for all. If anything, ULL is closer to USA, so why no place them in the east under your scenario...your logic would be akin to saying since UNC and DUKE are close to one another let's place them in separate divisions.

Conversely, it lessens your travel expenses compared to what they are currently. ULM is already playing every eastern school, and another close school USA is entering the league. Make your permanent cross divisional rival Louisiana and your travel costs drop further. Make La Tech your permanent cross divisional rival and you have essentially another home game every other year (for ULM that would be 5 conference games played in Monroe-Ruston every other year, and that's saving quite a bit on travel).
So, it will drop your travel expenses, just maybe not as much as you'd like.
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(01-24-2011 09:06 PM)Adler Wrote:  I guess as a North Texas fan I don't hold the same animosity towards Louisiana Tech that many of you do. La Tech, as an institution, has done nothing amoral. La Tech's president made the right move when they left for the WAC, and given the same circumstances, any of the western Sun Belt schools would have done the same. La Tech saw something that appeared to be an outstanding opportunity and they accepted it. Now, as for the Tech fans, several on their message board are quite abrasive, but that's just message board fodder. Their fans were gracious hosts when we've played in Ruston, and wonderful guests when they came to Denton.

New Mexico State left the Sun Belt for the WAC with exceptional class and the good graces of all Sun Belt presidents, and because of this they should be welcome to return at their discretion. NMSU is traditionally very good at basketball, and the football program, although down right now, always had a fairly strong road following. You MTSU fans probably remember the 2001 game when a lot of NMSU fans traveled quite far to support their team.

And as for Texas State and UTSA, those schools with their 30K+ enrollments not only have incredible individual potential, they also have large athletic budgets and excellent markets which could greatly benefit the Sun Belt. Like North Texas, UTSA is striving to become a national Tier 1 Research Institution. Texas State has also made enormous academic gains in the last decade and it won't be long before they too strive to become a national research institution.

Sun Belt Division

Florida Atlantic
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Troy
Western Kentucky

Western Division

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
North Texas
Texas San Antonio
Texas State
New Mexico State

Having 7 schools per division greatly reduces travel costs, allows 3 home and 3 away division games. Two divisions gets the Sun Belt a championship game; play that at the regular season's home and it should be well attended and make for great television presentation.

Why ULM in the eastern division? The Mississippi River was roughly the divider, but though Monroe is just west of the river, the school is too close in proximity to La Tech for comfort. If the schools want to play each other yearly as cross-divisional rivals, then that's their business.

This conference is ideally made for traveling fans and tailgating parties. Is it perfect? No, we'd all rater be in higher profile auto-bid conferences. But here we are, let's make the most of the situation while not dragging every single 1AA school with a pulse up to the NCAA Bowl Subdivision.

I asked this question before, and I can't remember anyone having the answer. If the WAC dies this winter, can the Texas twins still move up? They got an invitation to a conference as per NCAA rules, but doesn't the conference have to exist when they get their?
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