Yeah Ole Miss is rumored to be the other OOC game i know their schedule has one slot open from what i've heard source wise it's either gonna be Ole Miss or Oklahoma and possibly playing Grambling as the 4th game. I know UCONN,Purdue,and a handful of others have called about playing and i think even Wisconsin had called. I'll just let all the action on the field speak for ULM itself this next upcoming season it'll be better than 2010

(01-13-2011 08:53 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  ASU is "stagnant"? After finally getting an explosive offense and a new coach after 9 seasons we are anything but stagnant.

Arkansas State has been to one bowl game in its entire Division 1 FBS history. Arkansas State has been Division 1-A/FBS since 1992, correct? If I'm wrong, then let me know. Since moving up from the former Division 1-AA, Arkansas State has only posted one winning season (1995).

You have to understand how the outsider looks at Arkansas State's program. Through 19 seasons at the Division 1-A/FBS level, Arkansas State has gone through four head coaches (Perkins, Bobo, Hollis, and Roberts), it has only posted one winning season (1995), and fell below .500 on the season 15 times in that stretch.

Until Arkansas State can break out of the norm that everyone has come to expect, I don't think it's wrong to expect the school to hover around 4-6 wins in 2011 which I believe classifies the program as "stagnant" in my eyes. Am I wrong for thinking this?

(01-13-2011 08:54 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  You've got wrong information on the schedule for next year. FIU is NOT playing Texas A&M next year, but rather @Akron. The TAMU game is slated for 2013. This is the first time I've heard that TAMU wants to get out of our future home game against them, but it wouldn't surprise me given how we were leading for the entire game until the last 5-6 minutes of the game.

Thank you. I have made the change accordingly.

(01-13-2011 03:18 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 02:59 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Once again, I like our chances.
stAte has FIU, Troy and UNT at home this year. We could do well, or be the spoiler to many.

Me too. We bring back a LOT of players and nobody beat us convincingly except for national champs Auburn. Remove the restriction of our conservative head coach and consider that Freeze hasn't even had one full year to install his offense or sign players for it and there is GREAT potential. Troy was the only offense that was as potent as ASU this year and I believe they lost more skil players.

stAte is energized with the addition of Coach Freeze at the top; we will be in the hunt for the football title easily.

Go stAte . . . Go SBC !!!

(01-13-2011 08:53 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 06:04 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Troy and Florida International will likely vie for the league's title. The conference will receive only two bowl bids next year because Detroit won't see the Sun Belt anymore.

Teams on the rise: North Texas and Western Kentucky. I can see both of these schools finishing in the realm of bowl eligibility next year. Lance Dunbar of North Texas and Bobby Rainey of Western Kentucky should have really good years in 2011.

Stagnant teams: Arkansas State, Louisiana-Lafayette, and ULM. These teams will see similar seasons have they've seen in the past.

Teams on the decline: Florida Atlantic and Middle Tennessee State. MTSU's Logan Kilgore just won't be ready to lead that team to a better season. The coaching turnover situation needs to be addressed by MTSU. Their inability to hold on to a coordinator is putting that program on shaky ground. I have a hunch that Howard Schnellenberger will announce his retirement at the end of of the 2011 season.

ASU is "stagnant"? After finally getting an explosive offense and a new coach after 9 seasons we are anything but stagnant.

stAte was stagnant with Coach Roberts at the helm; stAte will not be stagnant with Coach Freeze at the helm. This is going to be a fun ride . . . Go stAte . . . Go SBC !!!

(01-13-2011 04:50 PM)rocketincbus Wrote:  Troy: Clemson & Arkansas would be some signature wins. You should hang with Navy def.

Is ASU like OU to Ohio State, where OSU looks down on them? Who us UCA? like Cal-Berkeley?
Memphis will be a good game.

UCA is Central Arkansas. They are FCS. They beat WKU 2 years ago.

(01-13-2011 09:19 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 08:53 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  ASU is "stagnant"? After finally getting an explosive offense and a new coach after 9 seasons we are anything but stagnant.

Arkansas State has been to one bowl game in its entire Division 1 FBS history. Arkansas State has been Division 1-A/FBS since 1992, correct? If I'm wrong, then let me know. Since moving up from the former Division 1-AA, Arkansas State has only posted one winning season (1995).You have to understand how the outsider looks at Arkansas State's program. Through 19 seasons at the Division 1-A/FBS level, Arkansas State has gone through four head coaches (Perkins, Bobo, Hollis, and Roberts), it has only posted one winning season (1995), and fell below .500 on the season 15 times in that stretch.

Until Arkansas State can break out of the norm that everyone has come to expect, I don't think it's wrong to expect the school to hover around 4-6 wins in 2011 which I believe classifies the program as "stagnant" in my eyes. Am I wrong for thinking this?

You are wrong. THe first 6 years of D1 saw several coaching changes and we didn't even come close to funding 85 scholarships. Hollis came after that and we still didn't dunf the scholarships and struggled to win more than 2 or 3 games a year despite playing 2 FCS schools a year.

2002 was Roberts first year and he brought stability and competitiveness despite the move away from playing two FCS opponents and playing no FCS opponents some years. By his 4th year ASU was in a bowl and soon after defeated Memphis twice, SMU and Texas A & M while putting a serious scare in a top 10 Texas team.

Towrds the end, Roberts had multiple seasons where ASU was bowl eligible with the same record as some Sun Belt bowl teams but the spots weren't open. His teams just found a way to blow leads that kept the program from getting over that 6 win hump.

Last season, Freeze was more or less mandated as the new OC and he turned things around on offense faster than anyone could have expected. Still, ASU found a way to blow games against Troy and FIU on the road with a lead in the final minute and lost to WKU on a botched punt.

Now, Freeze takes over what could have been characterized LAST year as a stagnant program. He returns almost every skill player including every RB, 10 of 11 top receivers and both QBs.

So, no, ASU cannot be characterized as "stagnant" while you call UNT and WKU "on the rise". By your rationalization, every school but Troy is "stagant". ASU's move to hire Freeze to build on the multiple bowl eligible teams under Roberts is actually the opposite of "stagnant".

MT has never came in below fourth that I remember.

(01-13-2011 11:28 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 09:19 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 08:53 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  ASU is "stagnant"? After finally getting an explosive offense and a new coach after 9 seasons we are anything but stagnant.

Arkansas State has been to one bowl game in its entire Division 1 FBS history. Arkansas State has been Division 1-A/FBS since 1992, correct? If I'm wrong, then let me know. Since moving up from the former Division 1-AA, Arkansas State has only posted one winning season (1995).You have to understand how the outsider looks at Arkansas State's program. Through 19 seasons at the Division 1-A/FBS level, Arkansas State has gone through four head coaches (Perkins, Bobo, Hollis, and Roberts), it has only posted one winning season (1995), and fell below .500 on the season 15 times in that stretch.

Until Arkansas State can break out of the norm that everyone has come to expect, I don't think it's wrong to expect the school to hover around 4-6 wins in 2011 which I believe classifies the program as "stagnant" in my eyes. Am I wrong for thinking this?

You are wrong. THe first 6 years of D1 saw several coaching changes and we didn't even come close to funding 85 scholarships. Hollis came after that and we still didn't dunf the scholarships and struggled to win more than 2 or 3 games a year despite playing 2 FCS schools a year.

2002 was Roberts first year and he brought stability and competitiveness despite the move away from playing two FCS opponents and playing no FCS opponents some years. By his 4th year ASU was in a bowl and soon after defeated Memphis twice, SMU and Texas A & M while putting a serious scare in a top 10 Texas team.

Towrds the end, Roberts had multiple seasons where ASU was bowl eligible with the same record as some Sun Belt bowl teams but the spots weren't open. His teams just found a way to blow leads that kept the program from getting over that 6 win hump.

Last season, Freeze was more or less mandated as the new OC and he turned things around on offense faster than anyone could have expected. Still, ASU found a way to blow games against Troy and FIU on the road with a lead in the final minute and lost to WKU on a botched punt.

Now, Freeze takes over what could have been characterized LAST year as a stagnant program. He returns almost every skill player including every RB, 10 of 11 top receivers and both QBs.

So, no, ASU cannot be characterized as "stagnant" while you call UNT and WKU "on the rise". By your rationalization, every school but Troy is "stagant". ASU's move to hire Freeze to build on the multiple bowl eligible teams under Roberts is actually the opposite of "stagnant".

Now what you're saying is that nothing I posted about Arkansas State's football program is true. The information I gathered was predominately from College Football Datawarehouse, and their information is false? Arkansas State did not have four coaches in the last 19 years? Arkansas State DID produce more than one winning season in 19 years at the FBS level?

I do understand why you believe what you believe. It would not be fair of me to expect anything less from a fan of the same program I'm objectively critiquing and extending a differing point-of-view. I would happily concede your beliefs IF Arkansas State can start winning more than six games a season.

I would hope that you could see how a non-Arkansas State fan or non-Sun Belt fan would see the situation. Maybe "stagnant" is not the right word since this leads you to believe that there is no room for progress. Perhaps "stale" would be a better term. You said so yourself that Arkansas State produced "multiple" bowl eligible teams under Roberts (4 to be exact; 2002 ended with a losing record because of the bowl loss to Southern Miss). This doesn't explain going back down to 4-win teams in 2009 and 2010.

I cannot see Arkansas State winning more than six games in 2011. Six is the absolute maximum I can see. In my eyes this means that Arkansas State is holding to the traditional 4- to 6-win team. In the last nine years under Roberts, Arkansas State only won fewer than 4 games one time. The other 8 times were 4- to 6-win teams. There is simply not enough evidence to suggest that 2011's Arkansas State team will be any different. I understand you have Ryan Aplin and several others coming back. I understand you have a new coach. Arkansas State has had many talented athletes come through the school and a few coaches and STILL has not managed to win more than six games. In fact the school has NEVER won more than six games at the FBS level (1995 ended with a 6-5 record, Arkansas State's only winning record as an FBS member).

I am just going to have to disagree with you, and until Arkansas State can show me it can win more than six games, then six wins is all I can expect from the school at best.

Why do I feel that North Texas and Western Kentucky are on the rise? Look at where they were! North Texas saw 1-, 2-, and 3-win seasons under Todd Dodge and they were not even remotely competitive in their conference. A couple of big eye-openers for me was the win at Middle Tennessee State (a place Arkansas State has never won) snapping a 4-year losing streak to MTSU. Another reality check was the play of Lance Dunbar. The guy had 270 yards rushing against bowl-bound Kansas State in the post-Dodge era. These are turn-around signs for me. The team showed that it can easily adapt to a new coach and it showed on the field in the latter part of the 2010 season.

Western Kentucky is another team that I believe can improve. WKU has a record of 2-22 as a Division 1 FBS member. That team came within 7 points or less in games against Middle Tennessee State, Florida International, Florida Atlantic, and Louisiana-Monroe. Do you realize that WKU would've been 6-6 on the season had they won these other swing games? Most teams with WKU's talent can do better than zero or two wins in a season. That is why I feel they are on the rise.

I'm not suggesting that North Texas and Western Kentucky are going to have 10-win seasons. That's not what I'm trying to say. I believe both could finish with 6 wins this year which is vast improvement for both teams compared to where they've been in recent memory.

6 wins is improvement for WKU and UNT. That's why I feel like those teams could be "on the rise" from where they were. 6 wins is not as big an improvement for Arkansas State because of the multiple bowl eligible seasons ASU saw under Steve Roberts. That is why I feel like ASU is more "stagnant" or I guess "stale" because it has become the norm to see four to six wins from Arkansas State and it has rarely detracted from that norm.

(01-13-2011 08:07 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Here's your Sun Belt Conference 2011 Non-Conference Breakdown:

Arkansas State
@ Illinois
vs Memphis
@ Virginia Tech
vs Central Arkansas

Florida Atlantic
@ Florida
@ Michigan State
@ Auburn
vs UAB

Florida International
vs Central Florida
@ Louisville
vs Duke
@ Akron

Louisiana-Lafayette
@ Oklahoma State
@ Arizona
@ Kent State
vs Nicholl's State

Louisiana-Monroe
@ Florida State
@ Iowa
*Opponent #3 N/A
*Opponent #4 N/A

Middle Tennessee State
@ Purdue
vs Georgia Tech
@ Tennessee
vs Memphis

North Texas
@ Alabama
vs Indiana
@ Tulsa
*Opponent #4 N/A

Troy
@ Clemson
@ Arkansas
vs UAB
@ Navy

Western Kentucky
vs Kentucky
vs Navy
vs Indiana State
@ LSU



Key:
BOLD GREEN = "Should win game"
BOLD RED = "Should lose game"
Black (non-bolded) = "Toss-up game"
*Unlisted opponent; will update once opponents are scheduled

I'm going to disagree with you on Troy....Clemson is not a pickem game and they will not be favored at Navy. I don't see either a win right now. I could change my mind about Navy, but not right now.

FIU at Louisville, not getting that one either...Louisville will be more experienced in 2011.

WKU vs Kentucky and Navy at home will still not be favorites...not getting those either.

How did WKU get Kentucky to come to their house? That's like Alabama coming to Troy.

(01-14-2011 01:39 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  How did WKU get Kentucky to come to their house? That's like Alabama coming to Troy.

This game will be played in Nashville at the Titans stadium, not in Bowling Green.

(01-13-2011 05:02 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  If ASU doesnt distroy Memphis I would disown ASU from the SBC.....

Our games with Memphis St are always close....but I expect a solid win regardless. They are our oldest/longest rivalry.

(01-14-2011 12:48 AM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 11:28 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 09:19 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 08:53 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  ASU is "stagnant"? After finally getting an explosive offense and a new coach after 9 seasons we are anything but stagnant.

Arkansas State has been to one bowl game in its entire Division 1 FBS history. Arkansas State has been Division 1-A/FBS since 1992, correct? If I'm wrong, then let me know. Since moving up from the former Division 1-AA, Arkansas State has only posted one winning season (1995).You have to understand how the outsider looks at Arkansas State's program. Through 19 seasons at the Division 1-A/FBS level, Arkansas State has gone through four head coaches (Perkins, Bobo, Hollis, and Roberts), it has only posted one winning season (1995), and fell below .500 on the season 15 times in that stretch.

Until Arkansas State can break out of the norm that everyone has come to expect, I don't think it's wrong to expect the school to hover around 4-6 wins in 2011 which I believe classifies the program as "stagnant" in my eyes. Am I wrong for thinking this?

You are wrong. THe first 6 years of D1 saw several coaching changes and we didn't even come close to funding 85 scholarships. Hollis came after that and we still didn't dunf the scholarships and struggled to win more than 2 or 3 games a year despite playing 2 FCS schools a year.

2002 was Roberts first year and he brought stability and competitiveness despite the move away from playing two FCS opponents and playing no FCS opponents some years. By his 4th year ASU was in a bowl and soon after defeated Memphis twice, SMU and Texas A & M while putting a serious scare in a top 10 Texas team.

Towrds the end, Roberts had multiple seasons where ASU was bowl eligible with the same record as some Sun Belt bowl teams but the spots weren't open. His teams just found a way to blow leads that kept the program from getting over that 6 win hump.

Last season, Freeze was more or less mandated as the new OC and he turned things around on offense faster than anyone could have expected. Still, ASU found a way to blow games against Troy and FIU on the road with a lead in the final minute and lost to WKU on a botched punt.

Now, Freeze takes over what could have been characterized LAST year as a stagnant program. He returns almost every skill player including every RB, 10 of 11 top receivers and both QBs.

So, no, ASU cannot be characterized as "stagnant" while you call UNT and WKU "on the rise". By your rationalization, every school but Troy is "stagant". ASU's move to hire Freeze to build on the multiple bowl eligible teams under Roberts is actually the opposite of "stagnant".

Now what you're saying is that nothing I posted about Arkansas State's football program is true. The information I gathered was predominately from College Football Datawarehouse, and their information is false? Arkansas State did not have four coaches in the last 19 years? Arkansas State DID produce more than one winning season in 19 years at the FBS level?

I do understand why you believe what you believe. It would not be fair of me to expect anything less from a fan of the same program I'm objectively critiquing and extending a differing point-of-view. I would happily concede your beliefs IF Arkansas State can start winning more than six games a season.

I would hope that you could see how a non-Arkansas State fan or non-Sun Belt fan would see the situation. Maybe "stagnant" is not the right word since this leads you to believe that there is no room for progress. Perhaps "stale" would be a better term. You said so yourself that Arkansas State produced "multiple" bowl eligible teams under Roberts (4 to be exact; 2002 ended with a losing record because of the bowl loss to Southern Miss). This doesn't explain going back down to 4-win teams in 2009 and 2010.

I cannot see Arkansas State winning more than six games in 2011. Six is the absolute maximum I can see. In my eyes this means that Arkansas State is holding to the traditional 4- to 6-win team. In the last nine years under Roberts, Arkansas State only won fewer than 4 games one time. The other 8 times were 4- to 6-win teams. There is simply not enough evidence to suggest that 2011's Arkansas State team will be any different. I understand you have Ryan Aplin and several others coming back. I understand you have a new coach. Arkansas State has had many talented athletes come through the school and a few coaches and STILL has not managed to win more than six games. In fact the school has NEVER won more than six games at the FBS level (1995 ended with a 6-5 record, Arkansas State's only winning record as an FBS member).

I am just going to have to disagree with you, and until Arkansas State can show me it can win more than six games, then six wins is all I can expect from the school at best.

Why do I feel that North Texas and Western Kentucky are on the rise? Look at where they were! North Texas saw 1-, 2-, and 3-win seasons under Todd Dodge and they were not even remotely competitive in their conference. A couple of big eye-openers for me was the win at Middle Tennessee State (a place Arkansas State has never won) snapping a 4-year losing streak to MTSU. Another reality check was the play of Lance Dunbar. The guy had 270 yards rushing against bowl-bound Kansas State in the post-Dodge era. These are turn-around signs for me. The team showed that it can easily adapt to a new coach and it showed on the field in the latter part of the 2010 season.

Western Kentucky is another team that I believe can improve. WKU has a record of 2-22 as a Division 1 FBS member. That team came within 7 points or less in games against Middle Tennessee State, Florida International, Florida Atlantic, and Louisiana-Monroe. Do you realize that WKU would've been 6-6 on the season had they won these other swing games? Most teams with WKU's talent can do better than zero or two wins in a season. That is why I feel they are on the rise.

I'm not suggesting that North Texas and Western Kentucky are going to have 10-win seasons. That's not what I'm trying to say. I believe both could finish with 6 wins this year which is vast improvement for both teams compared to where they've been in recent memory.

6 wins is improvement for WKU and UNT. That's why I feel like those teams could be "on the rise" from where they were. 6 wins is not as big an improvement for Arkansas State because of the multiple bowl eligible seasons ASU saw under Steve Roberts. That is why I feel like ASU is more "stagnant" or I guess "stale" because it has become the norm to see four to six wins from Arkansas State and it has rarely detracted from that norm.

It's ridiculous to suggest aht 6 is the maximum ASU could win in 2011. Based on your logic there was no way to expect more than 4 wins from Steve Roberts in his first year as coach.

Replace Louisville and Indiana with Memphis and UCA and there is not a single game on the conference schedule that isn't winnable. ASU also gets Troy, FIU and UNT in Jonesboro. Also, It's not Aplin and a "few" others. It's everyone that contributed as an offensive skill player except one average WR plus all of the redshirts and signees.

If ASU is "stale" or "stagnant" then everyone in the conference is stale.

(01-13-2011 05:04 PM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  Playing @Akron, vs. UCF, @Louisville, vs. Duke

We already had the rubber game this year at the LCPB, FIU 2 - Toledo 1

Good luck to the Rockets!

True story. Well we'll just continue the series then.

(01-13-2011 04:51 PM)rocketincbus Wrote:  What teams are FIU playing.

Im excited to play a rubber game in MOBILE!

lol.

Nice to see WKU getting Kentucky and Navy at home in their early existence! thats awesome. Kentucky isnt the lightweight they used to be, but totally not a heavy hitter either.

(01-14-2011 09:39 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  It's ridiculous to suggest that 6 is the maximum ASU could win in 2011. Based on your logic there was no way to expect more than 4 wins from Steve Roberts in his first year as coach.

Replace Louisville and Indiana with Memphis and UCA and there is not a single game on the conference schedule that isn't winnable. ASU also gets Troy, FIU and UNT in Jonesboro. Also, It's not Aplin and a "few" others. It's everyone that contributed as an offensive skill player except one average WR plus all of the redshirts and signees.

If ASU is "stale" or "stagnant" then everyone in the conference is stale.

Arkansas State has four straight losses to Troy and has never won at Middle Tennessee State. 24-7 is the closest ASU has ever gotten to MTSU on the road. ASU's last outting against Memphis was a loss and is 9-12 all-time against Central Arkansas. I believe Arkansas State SHOULD beat Central Arkansas, but it would not suprirse me if that school beat ASU. Arkansas State hasn't played an FCS school with this much of a pulse since Jacksonville State in 2001, and we all know how that one turned out.

Crump, I will just have to disagree with you. Like I said, I would happily concede I was wrong IF Arkansas State can pull off more than six wins in 2011. They haven't done that in 19 seasons of 1-A/FBS football. Not since Gene Harlow (11 head coaches ago) in 1955 has a first year head coach of Arkansas State ever pulled out a winning record in the first year as head coach. That's what a non-Arkansas State fan sees. That is what a college football fan sees.

I hope Arkansas State does make history in 2011 and changes the long history. That is what you are suggesting. However, a betting man of today would never predict Arkansas State to win the Sun Belt, win more than six games, or go to a bowl under a first year head coach unless they were willing to lose their house.

My understanding is also that ULM will be playing Grambling at home. I also don't think that a good ULM team from this past year returning 20 of 22 starters can be overlooked for the top 3. We also return the most players in Div. 1 that have played in a game. This is a balanced conference though and anybody can beat anybody any give week.

(01-14-2011 05:49 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:39 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  It's ridiculous to suggest that 6 is the maximum ASU could win in 2011. Based on your logic there was no way to expect more than 4 wins from Steve Roberts in his first year as coach.

Replace Louisville and Indiana with Memphis and UCA and there is not a single game on the conference schedule that isn't winnable. ASU also gets Troy, FIU and UNT in Jonesboro. Also, It's not Aplin and a "few" others. It's everyone that contributed as an offensive skill player except one average WR plus all of the redshirts and signees.

If ASU is "stale" or "stagnant" then everyone in the conference is stale.

Arkansas State has four straight losses to Troy and has never won at Middle Tennessee State. 24-7 is the closest ASU has ever gotten to MTSU on the road. ASU's last outting against Memphis was a loss and is 9-12 all-time against Central Arkansas. I believe Arkansas State SHOULD beat Central Arkansas, but it would not suprirse me if that school beat ASU. Arkansas State hasn't played an FCS school with this much of a pulse since Jacksonville State in 2001, and we all know how that one turned out.

Crump, I will just have to disagree with you. Like I said, I would happily concede I was wrong IF Arkansas State can pull off more than six wins in 2011. They haven't done that in 19 seasons of 1-A/FBS football. Not since Gene Harlow (11 head coaches ago) in 1955 has a first year head coach of Arkansas State ever pulled out a winning record in the first year as head coach. That's what a non-Arkansas State fan sees. That is what a college football fan sees.

I hope Arkansas State does make history in 2011 and changes the long history. That is what you are suggesting. However, a betting man of today would never predict Arkansas State to win the Sun Belt, win more than six games, or go to a bowl under a first year head coach unless they were willing to lose their house.

add to the OOC schedule TCU for ULM

(01-13-2011 05:02 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 04:50 PM)rocketincbus Wrote:  Troy: Clemson & Arkansas would be some signature wins. You should hang with Navy def.

Is ASU like OU to Ohio State, where OSU looks down on them? Who us UCA? like Cal-Berkeley?
Memphis will be a good game.

If ASU doesnt distroy Memphis I would disown ASU from the SBC.....

Why? The series history show you can throw the records out when they play and expect a close game.

Even UCA, a bad FCS team, is not a sure win for ASU. Many of the same players that took the field against WKU are still there. If you can lose to WKU at your place you can lose to anyone, anytime, anyplace.