RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
(10-21-2010 08:14 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:
(10-21-2010 12:22 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I can see a new show with him as the voice of leftward balance on Fox.
But if I were in charge of balancing the federal budget, public broadcasting, National Endowment for the Arts, and especially National Endowment for the Humanities, would be my first targets. It's not much money relative to the whole budget, but it's money we don't need to be spending.
Today Fox News Channel signed Juan to a 3 year, $2 million deal.
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
You know for all the handwringing about how 'the right' acts without thinking it seems to me the left goes off halk cocked far more often.
First that African American woman that Obama fired because of the NAACP video (without her side) and now NPR firing Juan, who was *clearly* not endorsing bigotry, just confessing to it (making him the most honest person on NPR)
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
Personally, I think the "right" taking up alms and arms for Juan Willliams is premature.
This guy is a liberal. He is not a conservative, so it'll be interesting to see how he works with Fox News and his new audience.
BTW I heard a bit on the radio last night that was pretty interesting. I played portions of a talk where Nina Totenberg (resident NPR talking head) was talking about Jessie Helms and his opposition to some funding for AIDS research.
Totenberg then made several comments about how "karma" or something will get Helms somehow, preferably when he OR A GRANDCHILD contracts AIDS through a blood transfusion.
This wasn't a transcript. This wasn't a recollection of someone who heard it - it was Nina Totenberg of NPR saying it outloud on the radio.
Nina Totenberg is still gainfully employed by NPR, and indeed is probably richer than any of us because of that continued employement.
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
Juan's been a paid contributor to Fox for years, Stanley. Him being on Fox is nothing new. He's hosted for O'Reilly as well as served on the All-Stars many times with his former NPR colleague Mara Laisson (also soon to be canned). As for the right taking up for him, I STILL disagree with him on almost everything. That won't change now that he's on a station I hardly ever watch. ...but I'm not a progressive and neither is he. He has a non-caustic delivery and one that can be reasoned with.
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
I don't like to see a liberal get mugged over expressing himself any more than I do a conservative. With individule rights we rise and sink together.
(10-22-2010 08:05 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: Personally, I think the "right" taking up alms and arms for Juan Willliams is premature.
This guy is a liberal. He is not a conservative, so it'll be interesting to see how he works with Fox News and his new audience.
BTW I heard a bit on the radio last night that was pretty interesting. I played portions of a talk where Nina Totenberg (resident NPR talking head) was talking about Jessie Helms and his opposition to some funding for AIDS research.
Totenberg then made several comments about how "karma" or something will get Helms somehow, preferably when he OR A GRANDCHILD contracts AIDS through a blood transfusion.
This wasn't a transcript. This wasn't a recollection of someone who heard it - it was Nina Totenberg of NPR saying it outloud on the radio.
Nina Totenberg is still gainfully employed by NPR, and indeed is probably richer than any of us because of that continued employement.
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
I know this is nit-picking, but saying you get worried when seeing overt Muslims on an airplane is quite different than wishing slow death on the grandchildren of a political rival.
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
(10-22-2010 08:39 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: I don't like to see a liberal get mugged over expressing himself any more than I do a conservative. With individule rights we rise and sink together.
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
(10-22-2010 08:05 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: Personally, I think the "right" taking up alms and arms for Juan Willliams is premature.
This guy is a liberal. He is not a conservative, so it'll be interesting to see how he works with Fox News and his new audience.
BTW I heard a bit on the radio last night that was pretty interesting. I played portions of a talk where Nina Totenberg (resident NPR talking head) was talking about Jessie Helms and his opposition to some funding for AIDS research.
Totenberg then made several comments about how "karma" or something will get Helms somehow, preferably when he OR A GRANDCHILD contracts AIDS through a blood transfusion.
This wasn't a transcript. This wasn't a recollection of someone who heard it - it was Nina Totenberg of NPR saying it outloud on the radio.
Nina Totenberg is still gainfully employed by NPR, and indeed is probably richer than any of us because of that continued employement.
From Inside Washington, 1995 (according to the captions):
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
So NPR is now trying to claim that they terminated his contract for a pattern of mixing opinion with reporting. If that's the case these people have an awful lot of house cleaning to do. Of course we all know that isn't actually going to happen.
Bunch of hypocrites.
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2010 12:28 PM by moe24.)
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
(10-22-2010 12:27 PM)moe24 Wrote: So NPR is now trying to claim that they terminated his contract for a pattern of mixing opinion with reporting. If that's the case these people have an awful lot of house cleaning to do. Of course we all know that isn't actually going to happen.
Bunch of hypocrites.
This, I think, is grounds for a lawsuit should Williams wish to pursue it. They are accusing him of a practice which could throttle his career.
It would be the equivelant of a coach getting fired then the AD saying "we fired him because he does not know how to run an offense" rather than "we fired him because his style ws not successful at this university"
Quote:Reading between the lines of Juan's statement and those of NPR officials, it's apparent that NPR was moved to fire Juan because he irritates so many people in its audience.
An interesting contrast: many NPR listeners apparently could not stomach that Williams also appeared on Fox News. But it doesn't seem that any perceptible number of Fox News viewers had any complaints that Williams also worked for NPR.
The Fox audience seems to be more tolerant of diversity than the NPR audience.
RE: NPR Fires Juan Williams After O'Reilly Appearance
(10-22-2010 08:05 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: Personally, I think the "right" taking up alms and arms for Juan Willliams is premature.
This guy is a liberal. He is not a conservative, so it'll be interesting to see how he works with Fox News and his new audience.
BTW I heard a bit on the radio last night that was pretty interesting. I played portions of a talk where Nina Totenberg (resident NPR talking head) was talking about Jessie Helms and his opposition to some funding for AIDS research.
Totenberg then made several comments about how "karma" or something will get Helms somehow, preferably when he OR A GRANDCHILD contracts AIDS through a blood transfusion.
This wasn't a transcript. This wasn't a recollection of someone who heard it - it was Nina Totenberg of NPR saying it outloud on the radio.
Nina Totenberg is still gainfully employed by NPR, and indeed is probably richer than any of us because of that continued employement.
Dang, Helms was a H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E racist (a good reason why black people no longer vote republican) but I wouldn't pass his sins down to the next generation.