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Lame Duck Congress plans $1 TRILLION Appropriations Bill
Seriously, if they try this BS, its time to go to DC and let some Congressmen get an earfull.

Budget battle brewing over trillion dollar lame-duck omnibus appropriations bill

By Russell Berman and Kevin Bogardus - 10/16/10 06:00 AM ET

While Republicans and Democrats fight for control of Congress, a behind-the-scenes budget fight is brewing over an omnibus appropriations bill that lawmakers may need to consider quickly upon their return after the midterm election.

Lobbyists and congressional aides say Democratic appropriators are mulling a 12-bill omnibus to fund the government in 2011 after the current stopgap measure expires in early December.

Republicans complain that they are being shut out of negotiations and are sounding warnings that Democrats will try to jam a $1 trillion bill through Congress immediately following the midterm elections.

“We have not been told a single thing,” a House GOP aide said. “There has not been one phone call from the majority to us.”

Several lobbyists said Republicans haven’t been involved in discussions and are predicting a partisan battle in the lame-duck session over the omnibus.

Election-year politics and concerns over spending prevented Democrats from passing any of the 12 annual appropriations bills before lawmakers left Washington at the end of September. Congress passed a short-term continuing resolution to keep the federal government running only through Dec. 3, meaning lawmakers will have to act quickly in the post-election lame-duck session, which begins Nov. 15.

While Republicans have pushed for appropriations bills to be considered individually, the two most likely scenarios are some kind of catch-all spending bill or another continuing resolution that would fund the government into the 112th Congress. An omnibus comprising all the bills, however, could be politically difficult, since it would push the top-line spending amount past $1 trillion.

The GOP is already hammering Democrats for pushing tax cut votes until after the election, and alarm about a looming $1 trillion spending bill could wreak havoc for lawmakers on the campaign trail.

The politics of the debate will also be affected by whichever party wins control of the House in November.

Democratic aides say that discussions thus far have only occurred on the staff level and that a range of options remain on the table, including an omnibus. “No decisions have been made,” said Ellis Brachman, a spokesman for the House Appropriations Committee. “The Republicans have been invited to any discussions we’ve had. They can choose whether to come or not.”

The two biggest points of contention are likely to be the overall spending level and whether earmarks are included. The House GOP leader, Rep. John Boehner (Ohio), joined more than four dozen Republicans in signing a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) earlier this month calling for no earmarks to be included in the omnibus legislation.

“Taxpayers deserve to have appropriations legislation considered in an open and transparent process,” the lawmakers wrote in the letter, which was drafted by Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), a prominent earmark foe. “At a minimum, taxpayers should be protected from thousands of unvetted earmarks, produced by a process driven by a spoils system, being stuffed into any end-of-year appropriations measure and shielded from review.”

Democrats may balk at that request, particularly if they lose control of the House. The omnibus would be the last opportunity to fund pet projects while the party has full control of the budget process.

"Democrats are hell-bent on getting their earmarks," said one appropriations lobbyist.


The ranking Republican on the House Appropriations Committee, Rep. Jerry Lewis (Calif.), and other GOP lawmakers have also called for overall spending to return to 2008 levels.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/124505...nibus-bill
10-18-2010 09:19 PM
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Democrats in power are mentally deranged.
10-19-2010 09:41 AM
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(10-19-2010 09:41 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Democrats in power are mentally deranged.

Not so much to disagree but at a more basic level, people who put Democrats in power are the deranged ones.
10-19-2010 12:27 PM
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(10-19-2010 12:27 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(10-19-2010 09:41 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Democrats in power are mentally deranged.

Not so much to disagree but at a more basic level, people who put Democrats in power are the deranged ones.

Anyone that thinks ANY person put in a position of power won't abuse it.. is deranged.
10-19-2010 08:18 PM
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(10-19-2010 09:41 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Democrats in power are mentally deranged.

ALL of them are f'ng deranged on BOTH sides of the isle. They ALL are a bunch of GD lairs and thieves that do not give 2 sh!ts about you and I. F them ALL!!03-puke
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I hope you guys buy ALOT of gold and silver.
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Hold on to your 401K's folks. It's their last chance.
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(10-19-2010 08:21 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-19-2010 09:41 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Democrats in power are mentally deranged.

ALL of them are f'ng deranged on BOTH sides of the isle. They ALL are a bunch of GD lairs and thieves that do not give 2 sh!ts about you and I. F them ALL!!03-puke

Couldn't agree more but we are not in a vacuum. As I survey the landscape I see a Democrat in the White House and I see 59 Democrat Senators and 255 Democrat Congressmen. That is way too much power in the hands of one group which is not good for us. So for this election cycle I am foursquare behind the idea of balancing the power. Or in other words, gridlock is our friend or at least as close to a friend as we will get.
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(10-19-2010 08:21 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-19-2010 09:41 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Democrats in power are mentally deranged.

ALL of them are f'ng deranged on BOTH sides of the isle. They ALL are a bunch of GD lairs and thieves that do not give 2 sh!ts about you and I. F them ALL!!03-puke

Too true.
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(10-20-2010 09:40 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(10-19-2010 08:21 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-19-2010 09:41 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Democrats in power are mentally deranged.

ALL of them are f'ng deranged on BOTH sides of the isle. They ALL are a bunch of GD lairs and thieves that do not give 2 sh!ts about you and I. F them ALL!!03-puke

Couldn't agree more but we are not in a vacuum. As I survey the landscape I see a Democrat in the White House and I see 59 Democrat Senators and 255 Democrat Congressmen. That is way too much power in the hands of one group which is not good for us. So for this election cycle I am foursquare behind the idea of balancing the power. Or in other words, gridlock is our friend or at least as close to a friend as we will get.

Absolutely....If Washington happened to grind to a halt...the nation would be better off. Every action these morons take seems to have the opposite effect and unintended consequences. I say send the damn lot of them home on a permanent vacation. Ill even be willing to pay their sorry asses to do NOTHING!!!04-cheers
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(10-20-2010 05:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-20-2010 09:40 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(10-19-2010 08:21 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-19-2010 09:41 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Democrats in power are mentally deranged.

ALL of them are f'ng deranged on BOTH sides of the isle. They ALL are a bunch of GD lairs and thieves that do not give 2 sh!ts about you and I. F them ALL!!03-puke

Couldn't agree more but we are not in a vacuum. As I survey the landscape I see a Democrat in the White House and I see 59 Democrat Senators and 255 Democrat Congressmen. That is way too much power in the hands of one group which is not good for us. So for this election cycle I am foursquare behind the idea of balancing the power. Or in other words, gridlock is our friend or at least as close to a friend as we will get.

Absolutely....If Washington happened to grind to a halt...the nation would be better off. Every action these morons take seems to have the opposite effect and unintended consequences. I say send the damn lot of them home on a permanent vacation. Ill even be willing to pay their sorry asses to do NOTHING!!!04-cheers

that's the sad part. at this point you'd literally be willing to continue paying taxes if it meant those in power were to be sent home and not allowed to pass bills, enact laws, etc. most people i talk to don't seem to realize that a market based economy is perfectly capable of fixing itself
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As a self professed Anarcho-capitalist I would love to see the entire system evolve to one that is market driven and voluntary. I know that is not going to happen. If the clowns in power would simply just do 3 things...I would be happy. 1) Provide for the security of OUR soil. 2) Have a good judicial system that punishes those that harm others using theft,fraud or violence.
3) Take care of the national infrastructure...roads..bridges..ect. That is really all I want from them...PERIOD.
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(10-20-2010 06:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  As a self professed Anarcho-capitalist I would love to see the entire system evolve to one that is market driven and voluntary. I know that is not going to happen. If the clowns in power would simply just do 3 things...I would be happy. 1) Provide for the security of OUR soil. 2) Have a good judicial system that punishes those that harm others using theft,fraud or violence.
3) Take care of the national infrastructure...roads..bridges..ect. That is really all I want from them...PERIOD.

And to those who make the idiotic comment that you should therefore move to Somalia, note particularly that those three things are NOT done by any government in Somalia. I would add a fourth: Provide the framework for a market system where business transactions can be conducted reasonably.
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(10-20-2010 06:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  As a self professed Anarcho-capitalist

It'll never work, spiders don't have pockets for their money. Duh.
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