(09-24-2010 03:11 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote: I dunno, are you a Texan? I think you live in the Minnesota? And yes, you should. Because when Texas does, it effects schools across the country through their texts books. As someone who has nearly an entire family in education, I can tell you that's exactly what is/will happen.
And if the other 49 states, or even just CA/NY/FL said 'to hell with that we'll buy our books elsewhere.
Quote:And did you see that I said a SMALLER more efficient DoE?
A smaller cancer is still a cancer
Quote:It's a good thing to have some standards across the country.
Why? It prevents schools from doing anything innovative, it strips power from teachers, parents, and locally elected school boards.
Watch the series "food revolution" where the chef trying to improve the school menu is told he needs another vegetable so they throw fries in. Potato a vegetable for school lunches in West Virginia? wanna bet a senator from Idaho had something to do with that?
If it screws with lunchroom imagine what it does to classrooms!!
Quote:As for Beaurocrats, why not have actual TEACHERS in charge? What about Ohio and California?
I grew up in a Union household so trust me when I say this. The minute you pull someone off the line and make them a union rep they change.
In DC Bureaucrats control everything.
Quote:So, please stop twisting everything. The Fed is good for somethings. Like standardizing.[quote]
I have no problem with optional standards being created and distributed. I do have a problem with enforcement!
[quote]But I forget that the reason Japan, and Europe have some of the best schools, is because they leave their education upto the parents, and their locals. Wait, they don't.
Rather than try to look at a different culture and ask why are they doing better why not look at charter Schools.
Why do Charter Schools do better than other Public Schools? More local control and parent involvement!
Quote:FYI, before you knock DC schools themselves, remember YOUR representatives from MINNESOTA ARE responsible for that mess. As are mine from South Carolina. [quote]
No doubt, and I could have just as easily said Detroit, Minneapolis, or Richmond. Point is that as the govt has gotten more involved in education the quality has gone down.
[quote]And the last time I saw the numbers, SC/Mississippi have the WORST state wide schools in the country.
Does not hurt my kid in Saint Paul. I could care less, in all honesty, how poorly they run their schools.
Quote:It doesn't effect Minnesota, California, Ohio or DC... or New York, Massachusetts at all. Because these United States of America aren't one, singular, nation made of up of many states, but many individual states with no bearing at all on the others.(and yes, that is what you are saying.)
Yet you desire a federal standard which, at best, would pull the top performing states down rather than force states like Mississippi to take a long look in the Mirror.
Quote:Oh, so, the Feds are good for one thing?
I said *might* and I only mean so that a state can see who is doing the best and then decide to copy and change some of the better practices. You know 'Laboratories Of Democracy'
Quote:And the Fed would STILL be taking YOUR money and relocating it to DC for the purpose of telling the school around the corner from you what, and how to teach with those standards.
No it would take far less of my money to tell my school district how its doing against the other states, not what or how to teach.