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RE: Obama's Wars
Is "it" starting to invert yet?



CRH might be right about you. Closet boy.
09-24-2010 05:23 PM
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Ohhh btw. I never answered you about the dinosaurs. Most of the oil and coal we use today was formed in the Paleozoic. The Mississippian and Pennsylvanian mainly. These Era's taken together are known as the Carboniferous. About 100 Million years before the Mesozoic. "The Age of Reptiles" When you said we run our cars on dinosaurs. Most educated people would chuckle at that thought. Mostly plants that lived in shallow swamps. That's what we burn in our vehicles.

Now stop worrying about my inverted "one" and understand we need to get off oil. The quicker it goes to 10 dollars a gallon. The better off we all will be in the long run.
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(09-24-2010 05:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhh btw. I never answered you about the dinosaurs. Most of the oil and coal we use today was formed in the Paleozoic. The Mississippian and Pennsylvanian mainly. These Era's taken together are known as the Carboniferous. About 100 Million years before the Mesozoic. "The Age of Reptiles" When you said we run our cars on dinosaurs. Most educated people would chuckle at that thought. Mostly plants that lived in shallow swamps. That's what we burn in our vehicles.

Now stop worrying about my inverted "one" and understand we need to get off oil. The quicker it goes to 10 dollars a gallon. The better off we all will be in the long run.

The people that would be the most significantly impacted by $10 a gallon, would be the poor and middle class. Which by the way are the ones that are going to get creamed when the Bush Tax Cuts sunset. I thought the Dems claimed to be for the working man?
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(09-24-2010 06:36 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(09-24-2010 05:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhh btw. I never answered you about the dinosaurs. Most of the oil and coal we use today was formed in the Paleozoic. The Mississippian and Pennsylvanian mainly. These Era's taken together are known as the Carboniferous. About 100 Million years before the Mesozoic. "The Age of Reptiles" When you said we run our cars on dinosaurs. Most educated people would chuckle at that thought. Mostly plants that lived in shallow swamps. That's what we burn in our vehicles.
Now stop worrying about my inverted "one" and understand we need to get off oil. The quicker it goes to 10 dollars a gallon. The better off we all will be in the long run.
The people that would be the most significantly impacted by $10 a gallon, would be the poor and middle class. Which by the way are the ones that are going to get creamed when the Bush Tax Cuts sunset. I thought the Dems claimed to be for the working man?

They claim to be. They are not. Nobody holds them to account for it.
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(09-24-2010 06:36 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(09-24-2010 05:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhh btw. I never answered you about the dinosaurs. Most of the oil and coal we use today was formed in the Paleozoic. The Mississippian and Pennsylvanian mainly. These Era's taken together are known as the Carboniferous. About 100 Million years before the Mesozoic. "The Age of Reptiles" When you said we run our cars on dinosaurs. Most educated people would chuckle at that thought. Mostly plants that lived in shallow swamps. That's what we burn in our vehicles.

Now stop worrying about my inverted "one" and understand we need to get off oil. The quicker it goes to 10 dollars a gallon. The better off we all will be in the long run.

The people that would be the most significantly impacted by $10 a gallon, would be the poor and middle class. Which by the way are the ones that are going to get creamed when the Bush Tax Cuts sunset. I thought the Dems claimed to be for the working man?

People in the Middle and Western States do a lot more driving because things are more spread out.
09-24-2010 09:16 PM
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(09-24-2010 05:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhh btw. I never answered you about the dinosaurs. Most of the oil and coal we use today was formed in the Paleozoic. The Mississippian and Pennsylvanian mainly. These Era's taken together are known as the Carboniferous. About 100 Million years before the Mesozoic. "The Age of Reptiles" When you said we run our cars on dinosaurs. Most educated people would chuckle at that thought. Mostly plants that lived in shallow swamps. That's what we burn in our vehicles.

Now stop worrying about my inverted "one" and understand we need to get off oil. The quicker it goes to 10 dollars a gallon. The better off we all will be in the long run.

Read again Nancy. I said "Partly". Open your f'n eyes. It's partly comprised from all sorts of decomposed lifeforms, plant, animal, etc.
09-25-2010 11:43 AM
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(09-24-2010 06:36 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(09-24-2010 05:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhh btw. I never answered you about the dinosaurs. Most of the oil and coal we use today was formed in the Paleozoic. The Mississippian and Pennsylvanian mainly. These Era's taken together are known as the Carboniferous. About 100 Million years before the Mesozoic. "The Age of Reptiles" When you said we run our cars on dinosaurs. Most educated people would chuckle at that thought. Mostly plants that lived in shallow swamps. That's what we burn in our vehicles.

Now stop worrying about my inverted "one" and understand we need to get off oil. The quicker it goes to 10 dollars a gallon. The better off we all will be in the long run.

The people that would be the most significantly impacted by $10 a gallon, would be the poor and middle class. Which by the way are the ones that are going to get creamed when the Bush Tax Cuts sunset. I thought the Dems claimed to be for the working man?

Nobody is for the working man.....not even the working man.
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(09-24-2010 03:53 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I'm saying Saddam's regime was treated differently than other regimes for the same type of transgressions. Why the difference? We all know the answer. There is blood on our SUV's.

The entire argument started with... If you don't plan on winning... don't go in. You're arguing we never should have gone in... fine... but we did... and once it's done, you can't blame Bush 43 for asking the world to respect a cease-fire treaty.

FTR, I'm not aware of other situations where one country invaded another where we weren't involved.... but I admit I could be wrong

We didn't invade when he killed his own people.
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(09-24-2010 11:35 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Hambone-

Thanks for the response. A couple of points that I would like to contend.

Giving a particularly good answer would require a history lesson...

I always liked Winston Churchill's quote. “History will be kind to me for I intend to write it”.

Are you aware that Iraqi's always considered parts of Kuwait to be disputed territory. Countless examples of this phenomena is documented throughout history. Nations dispute territory. Heck Michigan and Ohio both sent militias over Toledo. Just sayin' it happens and why do you think the US was so concerned about these particular territory disputes. The real war was waged in the "media" and the court of public opinion. Saddam was no where near as media savvy as Kuwait and it's media consultants. It has been proven that some of the most disturbing video images before the US commited to the first Gulf War were fabricated. There were tensions over the rights of underground oil resources along the border, Iraq claimed that Kuwait was depleting resources that territorially were on Iraqi side of the border using angled drilling techniques. Iraq at the time was facing immense fiscal difficulties. They felt Kuwait was artificially keeping oil prices low by flooding the market with IRAQI OIL. Add these together and you get an invasion. From interviews with Saddam it is clear that Iraq expected to claim Kuwait as its territory, and that they initially never expected an allied force to fight back. According to reports they sent word of the invasion through back channels to Washington. They never expected an Allied response and their calculus was flawed.

Continuing Hambone's analogy, what you're saying is that the Child molester makes the argument that (1) the child deserved to be raped because it wore skimpy closed, (2) he was pretty sure he could get away with it before he raped the child because he thought the parents didn't care, (3) he should have got his hands on nuclear weapons before he raped the child, and (4) he did everything he could to make people think he still had WMD after he was let go on probation all the while deliberately creating a great deal of ambiguity and saying FU to the man. (Ok, I suck at analogies).
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(09-24-2010 03:53 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I'm saying Saddam's regime was treated differently than other regimes for the same type of transgressions. Why the difference? We all know the answer. There is blood on our SUV's.

Missed this one, and it's a doozy. (5) We like to use the blood of raped children in our cookies and sweets to celebrate the 4th of July.
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LOL at I-45




(09-24-2010 09:16 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  People in the Middle and Western States do a lot more driving because things are more spread out.

I know we were talking about gas and not oil, but certainly taxes on gas impact the price of oil. People in the northern and eastern states burn a lot more heating oil. Tax gas, you reduce the demand which makes their heating oil (potentially) cheaper.
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