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Anger over Ariz. immigration law drives US rallies
Anger over Ariz. immigration law drives US rallies

By SOPHIA TAREEN Associated Press Writer 2010 The Associated Press

CHICAGO — Angered by a controversial Arizona immigration law, tens of thousands of protesters — including 50,000 alone in Los Angeles — rallied in cities nationwide demanding President Barack Obama tackle immigration reform immediately.

"I want to thank the governor of Arizona because she's awakened a sleeping giant," said labor organizer John Delgado who attended a rally in New York where authorities estimated 6,500 gathered.

From Los Angeles to Washington D.C., activists, families, students and even politicians marched, practiced civil disobedience and "came out" about their citizenship status in the name of rights for immigrants, including the estimated 12 million living illegally in the U.S.

Police said 50,000 rallied in Los Angeles where singer Gloria Estefan kicked off a massive downtown march. Estefan spoke in Spanish and English, proclaiming the United States is a nation of immigrants.

"We're good people," the Cuban-born singer said atop a flatbed truck. "We've given a lot to this country. This country has given a lot to us."
Public outcry, particularly among immigrant rights activists, has been building since last week when Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed the legislation last week. Supporters say the law is necessary because of the federal government's failure to secure the border, but critics contend it encourages racial profiling and is unconstitutional.

"It's racist," said Donna Sanchez, a 22-year-old U.S. citizen living in Chicago whose parents illegally crossed the Mexican border. "I have papers, but I want to help those who don't."

Organizers estimated about 20,000 gathered at a park on Chicago's West Side and marched, but police said about 8,000 turned out.

The event resembled something between a family festival — with food vendors pushing carts through the grass — and a political demonstration with protesters chanting "Si se puede," Spanish for "Yes we can." A group of undocumented students stood on a stage at the Chicago park and "came out" regarding their immigration status.

Juan Baca was among those students. Baca, 19, whose parents brought him from Mexico illegally when he was 4 months old, said he has had to drop out of college and work several times already because he can't qualify for financial aid.

"It's been a struggle," he said. "I missed the mark by four months. A lot of times you feel like you're not good enough."

Obama once promised to tackle immigration reform in his first 100 days, but has pushed back that timetable several times. He said this week that Congress may lack the "appetite" to take on immigration after going through a tough legislative year. However, Obama and Congress could address related issues, like boosting personnel and resources for border security, in spending bills this year.

"Obama promised legalization in the first 100 days," said Jesus Garzas, a 43-year-old Chicagoan with legal status who wore an Obama mask with a Pinocchio-like nose. "He lied."

Juan Haro, 80, was born and raised in Denver, where about 3,000 people rallied. He said his family is originally from Mexico and thinks Arizona's new law is targeting Mexicans specifically.

"This country doesn't seem to be anti-immigrant," he said. "It seems to be anti-Mexican."

At the White House, U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, an Illinois Democrat, was arrested with several others in a demonstration of civil disobedience against the Arizona law.

In Dallas, police estimated at least 20,000 attended a Saturday rally.
Among them was Juan Hernandez, the Hispanic outreach coordinator for Sen. John McCain's unsuccessful presidential run. He said Arizona was once considered by those south of the border to be a model state with particularly close ties to Mexico.

"It went beyond what most states do," he said. "Now they are a state that goes beyond what the Constitution says you should do."
About a dozen people at the Dallas event carried signs depicting Brewer as a Nazi and Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, known for his tough illegal immigration stance, as a Klansman. Organizers were asking sign holders to discard the placards.

In Ann Arbor, Mich., more than 500 people held a mock graduation ceremony for undocumented immigrant students near the site of Obama's University of Michigan commencement speech.

A smattering of counterprotesters showed up at rallies. In Tucson, Ariz., a few dozen people from the group Arizonans For Immigration Control showed up in support of the new law and Brewer.

May 1, also International Workers Day, is a traditional date for political demonstrations. Immigration advocates latched onto that tradition in 2006, when more than 1 million people across the country — half a million alone in Chicago — protested federal legislation that would have made being an illegal immigrant a felony. That legislation ultimately failed.
At Saturday's rallies, activists from organizations supporting other groups — including Muslims, gays and youth advocacy — marched in support of immigrant rights.

"It affects everyone," said Paulie Sabol, 38, who traveled from Indiana to march in Chicago. His partner is a Mexican immigrant who is a legal resident but doesn't have U.S. citizenship. "I can't sponsor him because same sex marriage isn't recognized in Indiana."
05-01-2010 05:23 PM
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(05-01-2010 05:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Police said 50,000 rallied in Los Angeles

Yesterday organizers of the rally said they were going to have over half a million protesters. Fail.
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I actually have to give the AP SOME credit here. I'm surprised that they actually had the guts to admit that there were those Hitler signs. I've watched a few of the YouTube videos on today's protests. I was watching for the idiots that invariably wear the oh so popular Che T-shirts. What I did see were lots of commercially produced signs. Some SEIU signs were visible, as well. Some signs and banners looked very similar to communist signs, complete with the good old red star.

Why does this movement hold their protests on May 1? Check out A.N.S.W.E.R, one of the groups that helps to organize it. They are using the useful idiots. The communists and socialists of the world always protest on May 1.

One Q. I would ask any of the protestors - "So, you believe this law is racist? If so, then I assume that you believe that ANY COUNTRY with immigration laws and policies that they enforce is also racist because if you entered their country without following their procedures, you would be either jailed or escorted out. Or, is it just America that is racist because you can't be bothered to think about other countries?"

What bugs me the most is schools using their kids for a political message. Not so much today, but last year many schools around here let their kids go to the march to protest. I understand the kids' motivation - self interest.

Denver Public Schools Superintendent announced that DPS would boycott Arizona and not allow any business related travel there. On every board I've been on that commented on that story, DPS is getting hammered by public comments - they really ought to focus on educating their kids and butt out of the politics of another state.

But we truly have raised the dumbest generation. It's not the kids fault. It was made this way by design and by commandeering the school curriculum to favor the absurd notion of "social justice" instead of equal justice.
05-01-2010 09:34 PM
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(05-01-2010 09:34 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I actually have to give the AP SOME credit here. I'm surprised that they actually had the guts to admit that there were those Hitler signs. I've watched a few of the YouTube videos on today's protests. I was watching for the idiots that invariably wear the oh so popular Che T-shirts. What I did see were lots of commercially produced signs. Some SEIU signs were visible, as well. Some signs and banners looked very similar to communist signs, complete with the good old red star.

Why does this movement hold their protests on May 1? Check out A.N.S.W.E.R, one of the groups that helps to organize it. They are using the useful idiots. The communists and socialists of the world always protest on May 1.

One Q. I would ask any of the protestors - "So, you believe this law is racist? If so, then I assume that you believe that ANY COUNTRY with immigration laws and policies that they enforce is also racist because if you entered their country without following their procedures, you would be either jailed or escorted out. Or, is it just America that is racist because you can't be bothered to think about other countries?"

What bugs me the most is schools using their kids for a political message. Not so much today, but last year many schools around here let their kids go to the march to protest. I understand the kids' motivation - self interest.

Denver Public Schools Superintendent announced that DPS would boycott Arizona and not allow any business related travel there. On every board I've been on that commented on that story, DPS is getting hammered by public comments - they really ought to focus on educating their kids and butt out of the politics of another state.

But we truly have raised the dumbest generation. It's not the kids fault. It was made this way by design and by commandeering the school curriculum to favor the absurd notion of "social justice" instead of equal justice.
03-lmfao So you have a problem with groups "sponsoring" this but have no problems with the groups "sponsoring" the tea parties.

Btw, if you guys want to say "fail" for the turnout, how about that 3500 in Washington on tax day. Talk about a big "fail".
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(05-01-2010 09:48 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(05-01-2010 09:34 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I actually have to give the AP SOME credit here. I'm surprised that they actually had the guts to admit that there were those Hitler signs. I've watched a few of the YouTube videos on today's protests. I was watching for the idiots that invariably wear the oh so popular Che T-shirts. What I did see were lots of commercially produced signs. Some SEIU signs were visible, as well. Some signs and banners looked very similar to communist signs, complete with the good old red star.

Why does this movement hold their protests on May 1? Check out A.N.S.W.E.R, one of the groups that helps to organize it. They are using the useful idiots. The communists and socialists of the world always protest on May 1.

One Q. I would ask any of the protestors - "So, you believe this law is racist? If so, then I assume that you believe that ANY COUNTRY with immigration laws and policies that they enforce is also racist because if you entered their country without following their procedures, you would be either jailed or escorted out. Or, is it just America that is racist because you can't be bothered to think about other countries?"

What bugs me the most is schools using their kids for a political message. Not so much today, but last year many schools around here let their kids go to the march to protest. I understand the kids' motivation - self interest.

Denver Public Schools Superintendent announced that DPS would boycott Arizona and not allow any business related travel there. On every board I've been on that commented on that story, DPS is getting hammered by public comments - they really ought to focus on educating their kids and butt out of the politics of another state.

But we truly have raised the dumbest generation. It's not the kids fault. It was made this way by design and by commandeering the school curriculum to favor the absurd notion of "social justice" instead of equal justice.
03-lmfao So you have a problem with groups "sponsoring" this but have no problems with the groups "sponsoring" the tea parties.

Btw, if you guys want to say "fail" for the turnout, how about that 3500 in Washington on tax day. Talk about a big "fail".

He never said he was against the sponsors; re-read what he wrote. He's against using kids as political weaponss and people who represent schools spouting off on something that doesn't affect them.
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Robert, all you have is assertions about "sponsorship" of the Tea Parties. No evidence of some grand conspiracy that your talking points tells you is there. Until you actually go and witness a Tea Party, why not STFU? You know nothing and you demonstrate it here each and every day.

As for A.N.S.W.E.R. - you obviously didn't check them out. Well, maybe you did because you don't want to comment. It is a coalition of the usual communist, socialist and "progressive" groups. Marxists and such. They believe that all immigration should be legal.

I detest anybody who uses wiki as a source for research, as it is not reliable but in the interest of time, check out this wiki entry on A.N.S.W.E.R.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.
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(05-01-2010 10:05 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Robert, all you have is assertions about "sponsorship" of the Tea Parties. No evidence of some grand conspiracy that your talking points tells you is there. Until you actually go and witness a Tea Party, why not STFU? You know nothing and you demonstrate it here each and every day.

As for A.N.S.W.E.R. - you obviously didn't check them out. Well, maybe you did because you don't want to comment. It is a coalition of the usual communist, socialist and "progressive" groups. Marxists and such. They believe that all immigration should be legal.

I detest anybody who uses wiki as a source for research, as it is not reliable but in the interest of time, check out this wiki entry on A.N.S.W.E.R.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.
I should have known that you would deny it.
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Deny what? Your absurd notion that somebody is sponsoring the Tea Parties?

You can't seem to get it in your pointy little head that not all groups operate the same way that leftwing groups do.

The Tea Parties began as true grassroots groups that used conservative blogs to organize their protests under the name Tea Party and co-ordinate when and where they were going to protest. I watched it happen. Also, all the Rightwing politicians that have been trying to claim credit or glom onto the movement are largely rejected because, believe it or not - most Tea Partiers still don't trust Republicans, either. This movement wants to move the GOP to respond to them, not let them dictate to the Tea Party.

Lots and lots of talking heads and pundits have tried in vain to pin them down - they ALL assert that they have the goods. None of them has a clue. Nor do you. If you doubt the Tea Parties, just wait.

"I can see NOVEMBER from my house!"
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(05-01-2010 10:21 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Deny what? Your absurd notion that somebody is sponsoring the Tea Parties?

You can't seem to get it in your pointy little head that not all groups operate the same way that leftwing groups do.

The Tea Parties began as true grassroots groups that used conservative blogs to organize their protests under the name Tea Party and co-ordinate when and where they were going to protest. I watched it happen. Also, all the Rightwing politicians that have been trying to claim credit or glom onto the movement are largely rejected because, believe it or not - most Tea Partiers still don't trust Republicans, either. This movement wants to move the GOP to respond to them, not let them dictate to the Tea Party.

Lots and lots of talking heads and pundits have tried in vain to pin them down - they ALL assert that they have the goods. None of them has a clue. Nor do you. If you doubt the Tea Parties, just wait.

"I can see NOVEMBER from my house!"
It isn't an absurd notion. It is the truth. You just can't handle the truth.

Just like bimbo Palin can see Russia from her house. 03-lmfao No wonder you are so uninformed. You listen to Caribou Barbie.
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I see nobody here is mentioning that Phoenix is the #1 kidnapping capital in the country, second in the world only to Mexico City. Immigration reform in Arizona is about crime.
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