No advisory from Canada yet (they do have one for Florida though).

Interesting the Arizona Law is only an extension of Federal Law. Here in NC there is a pilot FEDERAL program that does immigration status checks on anyone arrested. Is the Obama administration engaging in HATE practices as well?

(04-27-2010 10:18 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  A Mexican Travel Advisory...

Whoop de do.. nothing to fear unless you are here illegally.

A Mexican National is stopped by an Arizona Cop.

Mexican National produces Mexican ID

Cop then asks the Mexican National for his US Visa (if past the border limit) or his "Green Card".

Mexicans should know that if you need a Visa if going past the border limit.

Not much a cop can do if he stops a Mecian National within 20 miles of the Border, as long as they entered through a US Port of Entry and has the paperwork. They are here "legally"...

The ones that I really feel for are the former Mexican nationals that have US Citizenship. They will have a burden unlike other citizens.

Texas now requires and verifies SS# when applying for or the renewal of a Texas Drivers License. This started last year, and renewals are required every 4-6 years. I've heard that many people, have had their renewal applications rejected for bad SS#s. If you are caught driving without a valid DL, you go to the hoosegow. What happens after that is being handled differently across the state.

(04-28-2010 05:56 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-27-2010 10:18 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  A Mexican Travel Advisory...

Whoop de do.. nothing to fear unless you are here illegally.

A Mexican National is stopped by an Arizona Cop.

Mexican National produces Mexican ID

Cop then asks the Mexican National for his US Visa (if past the border limit) or his "Green Card".

Mexicans should know that if you need a Visa if going past the border limit.

Not much a cop can do if he stops a Mecian National within 20 miles of the Border, as long as they entered through a US Port of Entry and has the paperwork. They are here "legally"...

The ones that I really feel for are the former Mexican nationals that have US Citizenship. They will have a burden unlike other citizens.

I know what you are saying, but I don't have any sympathy for them. Most have supported illegal immigration, implicitly and even explicitly. They haven't helped with the problem, they've exacerbated it. So, they are reaping what they sowed.

(04-28-2010 09:15 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-28-2010 05:56 AM)I45owl Wrote:  The ones that I really feel for are the former Mexican nationals that have US Citizenship. They will have a burden unlike other citizens.

I know what you are saying, but I don't have any sympathy for them. Most have supported illegal immigration, implicitly and even explicitly. They haven't helped with the problem, they've exacerbated it. So, they are reaping what they sowed.

How do you figure that? I know any number of immigrants from around the world, and I don't see these folks in any different light just because they're from Mexico.

(04-28-2010 09:41 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-28-2010 09:15 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-28-2010 05:56 AM)I45owl Wrote:  The ones that I really feel for are the former Mexican nationals that have US Citizenship. They will have a burden unlike other citizens.

I know what you are saying, but I don't have any sympathy for them. Most have supported illegal immigration, implicitly and even explicitly. They haven't helped with the problem, they've exacerbated it. So, they are reaping what they sowed.

How do you figure that? I know any number of immigrants from around the world, and I don't see these folks in any different light just because they're from Mexico.

First hand anecdotal observation.

(04-28-2010 10:07 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-28-2010 09:41 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-28-2010 09:15 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-28-2010 05:56 AM)I45owl Wrote:  The ones that I really feel for are the former Mexican nationals that have US Citizenship. They will have a burden unlike other citizens.

I know what you are saying, but I don't have any sympathy for them. Most have supported illegal immigration, implicitly and even explicitly. They haven't helped with the problem, they've exacerbated it. So, they are reaping what they sowed.

How do you figure that? I know any number of immigrants from around the world, and I don't see these folks in any different light just because they're from Mexico.

First hand anecdotal observation.

But you always hold others to such high standards in their posts.

(04-28-2010 05:30 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Interesting the Arizona Law is only an extension of Federal Law. Here in NC there is a pilot FEDERAL program that does immigration status checks on anyone arrested. Is the Obama administration engaging in HATE practices as well?

To me that seems reasonable-it's akin to having produce a driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance when getting pulled over for a traffic violation.

The non-violent Tea Party people must be overwhelmed from all the apologies. Glad to see the media finally figuring out all the violence is and always has come from the leftest fascists. Oh, wait....

So basically, the past few weeks have taught us this new lesson regarding the left wing's POV:

- American citizens complaining about the overreach of government and unrestrained spending are to be mocked and derided. Foreigners entering our country illegally, flaunting our laws and collecting public services are to be sympathised and supported.

(04-29-2010 06:57 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  So basically, the past few weeks have taught us this new lesson regarding the left wing's POV:

- American citizens complaining about the overreach of government and unrestrained spending are to be mocked and derided. Foreigners entering our country illegally, flaunting our laws and collecting public services are to be sympathised and supported.

That about covers it.

A pretty good commentary wrt illegal immigrants I saw on another message board...

Quote:The Political Left sees a possible new and reliable voter base, and the Political Right sees cheap labor. The Citizen Left sees an overly romanticized view of the plight of the illegals, and the Citizen Right sees a wildly overblown picture of cop killers and drug dealers. (Citizen Right seems to have prevailed in Arizona.)

In the midst of all this, each side is ignoring the others' legitimate concerns, and when that happens the debate suffers.

meh... citizen fiscally right sees an influx of people who live 4+ to a run down apartment spending as little as possible... including 5 of them getting together for a "family" cell phone plan (they ALL have cell phones) which means for a few, stealing things... but for many more, taking advantage of the charities that offer bikes, clothes, food, meals etc... and yes, even healthcare... and send the vast majority of the funds they earn while here to their home country. Think about it. A $500/month apartment shared by 5 people... a $15/month phone bill. Free clothes... simple foods... few appliances. at $8/hr working just 30 hours tax free, that's $1032 in income and less than $300 in expenses. $750/month goes a LONG way back home... Imagine the guys that work 50 or 60 hours/week.

The apartments they live in devalue the property around them... They add only a small fraction of their earnings back into the local economy... yes, they perform functions many Americans probably wouldn't... but we don't need 30 million of those people... or even if we do... we should know that we're not letting escaped/released child molesters/murderers live next to a family of 5 and mowing our lawns. I realize this is probably no worse than any other population, but we require child molesters to register in this country. I have ZERO doubt that there isn't at least a few convicted child molesters living in proximity where we don't allow convicted citizens to live.

Don't make my comment about the last few lines... it's merely establishing the purpose of registering/checking aliens at the border. We allow LOTS of people in here each year legally

Some things that come with illegal immigration.

Quote:Legal immigrants are required to have medical screening to ensure that they do not bring any contagious diseases into the United States. Illegal aliens are not screened and many are carrying horrific third world diseases that do not belong in the USA. Many of these diseases are highly contagious and will infect citizens that come in contact with an infected illegal alien. This has already happened in restaurants, schools, and police forces

Malaria
Dengue
Leprosy
Hepatitis A-E
Tuberculosis
Chagas Disease
HIV

If we screen legal aliens for contagious diseases, why are we allowing unscreened and contagious illegal aliens to roam the country infecting the citizenry?

More detail in article
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_o...eases.html

I think this travel alert is dangerous towards American citizens in Mexico. We already have a number of institutions (the University of Texas) drawing back its students from Mexico because of the perceived danger. Maybe now some drug cartel uses the alert as an excuse to harass, extort, kidnap, or even randomly kill some American tourists? Is that too far-fetched to wonder?

The Mexican Government better hope not. US tourism to Cancun etc is probably 15% their economy.

Screw this two-bit "boycott" against Arizona.

I just ordered a Red "D'Backs" Baseball Jersey

(04-29-2010 08:41 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I think this travel alert is dangerous towards American citizens in Mexico. We already have a number of institutions (the University of Texas) drawing back its students from Mexico because of the perceived danger. Maybe now some drug cartel uses the alert as an excuse to harass, extort, kidnap, or even randomly kill some American tourists? Is that too far-fetched to wonder?

If the Cartels screw in any way with US Nationals, they can expect US Special Operations paying their leadership "a visit" just like Delta paid Pablo Escobar a visit in Colombia back in 1993.

It won't be Black Jack Pershing coming across the border in a massive invasion like 1916.. you will just hear about Cartel leaders dying a pretty violent death.