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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi...loyed.html

"Family on £42,000 a year benefits because they are 'better off unemployed'"
04-15-2010 03:03 PM
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That article is a left winger's wet dream.

Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
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(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.

Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
Your comment is completely stupid. I would guess that most on the left(as well as most on the right) would find this disgusting. Having said that, I am not against helping those that need help. I don't think they should make a career out of it but if they need short term help to get on their feet, I don't mind. Of course, this case isn't about helping them get on their feet but a career. As I said, that is wrong.
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(04-16-2010 12:48 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.
Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
Your comment is completely stupid. I would guess that most on the left(as well as most on the right) would find this disgusting. Having said that, I am not against helping those that need help. I don't think they should make a career out of it but if they need short term help to get on their feet, I don't mind. Of course, this case isn't about helping them get on their feet but a career. As I said, that is wrong.

Do you really believe that most on the left would find this disgusting?
I don't, at least not the political leadership.
Two guaranteed votes forever, in the process of creating many more.
I seriously believe this is exactly what Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al, would love to replicate as many times as possible.
Maybe I am too cynical, maybe not.
04-16-2010 05:58 AM
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(04-16-2010 12:48 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.

Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
Your comment is completely stupid. I would guess that most on the left(as well as most on the right) would find this disgusting.

Much like "right-wingers are warmongers" and "Tea Partiers are a bunch of racists", I'm entitled to a broadbrush vent comment once in a while.
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Quote:Having said that, I am not against helping those that need help. I don't think they should make a career out of it but if they need short term help to get on their feet, I don't mind. Of course, this case isn't about helping them get on their feet but a career. As I said, that is wrong.

Now stated like that, I don't have much argument. Even most fiscal conservatives (like myself) don't get too bothered over "short term help". Though I bet we're still far apart in terms of economic viewpoints.

But what often happens when the solid Left gets into power in any country is that the environment eventually becomes fertile for careers made of subsidies/handouts. It's that term "cycle of dependency" I'm sure you've heard about. The family in the article is an extreme example, almost Onion like, but it's a microcosm and not far from widespread reality.

As Owl alluded to, people addicted to the state is desirable to political leadership because it solidifies their power and locks in guaranteed votes. Hugo Chavez doesn't "care" about poor people as much as he cares about a guaranteed position of power for life.
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(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.

Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.

In fairness, I think the environmentalist faction of the left would be appalled at the large family. They're usually trying to cull the human race.
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(04-16-2010 12:48 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.

Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
Your comment is completely stupid. I would guess that most on the left(as well as most on the right) would find this disgusting. Having said that, I am not against helping those that need help. I don't think they should make a career out of it but if they need short term help to get on their feet, I don't mind. Of course, this case isn't about helping them get on their feet but a career. As I said, that is wrong.

That's the problem with gov't assistance, and why these things are better left to the free market. People and charitable organizations can distinguish between who really needs help, and who is just looking for a free ride (they have to, as they have limited funding). Gov't programs can't, and have no incentive to, as they just pilfer more and more tax dollars.
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(04-16-2010 05:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 12:48 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.
Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
Your comment is completely stupid. I would guess that most on the left(as well as most on the right) would find this disgusting. Having said that, I am not against helping those that need help. I don't think they should make a career out of it but if they need short term help to get on their feet, I don't mind. Of course, this case isn't about helping them get on their feet but a career. As I said, that is wrong.

Do you really believe that most on the left would find this disgusting?
I don't, at least not the political leadership.
Two guaranteed votes forever, in the process of creating many more.
I seriously believe this is exactly what Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al, would love to replicate as many times as possible.
Maybe I am too cynical, maybe not.
Yes I do. You definately are too cynical.
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RE: Couldn't happen here
(04-16-2010 11:17 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 05:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 12:48 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.
Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
Your comment is completely stupid. I would guess that most on the left(as well as most on the right) would find this disgusting. Having said that, I am not against helping those that need help. I don't think they should make a career out of it but if they need short term help to get on their feet, I don't mind. Of course, this case isn't about helping them get on their feet but a career. As I said, that is wrong.

Do you really believe that most on the left would find this disgusting?
I don't, at least not the political leadership.
Two guaranteed votes forever, in the process of creating many more.
I seriously believe this is exactly what Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al, would love to replicate as many times as possible.
Maybe I am too cynical, maybe not.
Yes I do. You definately are too cynical.

Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and me to mine.
And I think yours could not possibly be more wrong.
I see absolutely no indication that Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al, give one whit about the less successful among us, except making sure that they vote for democrats.
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(04-16-2010 11:39 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 11:17 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 05:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 12:48 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.
Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
Your comment is completely stupid. I would guess that most on the left(as well as most on the right) would find this disgusting. Having said that, I am not against helping those that need help. I don't think they should make a career out of it but if they need short term help to get on their feet, I don't mind. Of course, this case isn't about helping them get on their feet but a career. As I said, that is wrong.

Do you really believe that most on the left would find this disgusting?
I don't, at least not the political leadership.
Two guaranteed votes forever, in the process of creating many more.
I seriously believe this is exactly what Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al, would love to replicate as many times as possible.
Maybe I am too cynical, maybe not.
Yes I do. You definately are too cynical.

Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and me to mine.
And I think yours could not possibly be more wrong.
I see absolutely no indication that Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al, give one whit about the less successful among us, except making sure that they vote for democrats.
Well, as long as you live in Texass and watch Faux "news", you won't get any indication.
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(04-16-2010 11:43 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 11:39 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 11:17 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 05:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-16-2010 12:48 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-15-2010 08:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  That article is a left winger's wet dream.
Smug, voluntarily unemployed, reproducing like rabbits, and living it up on the workers' dime.
Your comment is completely stupid. I would guess that most on the left(as well as most on the right) would find this disgusting. Having said that, I am not against helping those that need help. I don't think they should make a career out of it but if they need short term help to get on their feet, I don't mind. Of course, this case isn't about helping them get on their feet but a career. As I said, that is wrong.

Do you really believe that most on the left would find this disgusting?
I don't, at least not the political leadership.
Two guaranteed votes forever, in the process of creating many more.
I seriously believe this is exactly what Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al, would love to replicate as many times as possible.
Maybe I am too cynical, maybe not.
Yes I do. You definately are too cynical.
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and me to mine.
And I think yours could not possibly be more wrong.
I see absolutely no indication that Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al, give one whit about the less successful among us, except making sure that they vote for democrats.
Well, as long as you live in Texass and watch Faux "news", you won't get any indication.

One correct guess, one incorrect.
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