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What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
Since some here claim that Islam is not a religion of peace, and in fact teaches it's followers to murder people, what is it that you propose we do to it? Make it illegal in this country? Execute those who follow it? I'd just like to hear your ideas.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
It's not a claim. Fact. I own a Koran. And I've had many Muslims bold face lie when I quote it. That's something the Koran promotes also.

As long as the harm they do is limited to their own countries, who cares. Let 'em kill each other. If they can't play nice with the rest of the world, the world should isolate them.

They are causing problems in France, The UK, Spain, Switzerland, Denmark, The US, hell everywhere. Just stop the immigration. Oh, and never let converts out of prison. :)
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-26-2010 12:02 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Since some here claim that Islam is not a religion of peace, and in fact teaches it's followers to murder people, what is it that you propose we do to it? Make it illegal in this country? Execute those who follow it? I'd just like to hear your ideas.
Both of those have been mentioned on this board. As has nuking Mecca(and the entire Middle East).
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
Islam will need an Age of Enlightenment, and it will most likely be brought upon from within by some revolution. Meaning that the Western World cannot and should not try forcing it upon them, which oftentimes backfires anyhow. And when that internal civil war happens, it's gonna be really ugly. The riots in Iran a few months ago is just a casual walk in the park compared to what could happen if the liberals (defined in a classical sense, not the American political spectrum sense) really grow in numbers and organize. The clerics, jihadists and wahabbists won't go down easily without blowing everything up.

In the meantime, the ugliest prospect is watching London, Paris, Amsterdam, etc, slowly seeing their western liberalized freedoms go down the toilet because no one is willing to stand up to growing fundamentalist, unassimilated sections of their cities (either out of self-loathing/political correctness or mortal fear or a mixture of both). Tripoli being a hole of street-level sharia law is one thing. London is another.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-26-2010 01:31 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  In the meantime, the ugliest prospect is watching London, Paris, Amsterdam, etc, slowly seeing their western liberalized freedoms go down the toilet because no one is willing to stand up to growing fundamentalist, unassimilated sections of their cities (either out of self-loathing/political correctness or mortal fear or a mixture of both). Tripoli being a hole of street-level sharia law is one thing. London is another.

People like Robert are the idiots that allow it to happen.

BTW, there's nothing in their religious text that allows for an enlightenment. They've been this way since the cult was founded.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
Since Islam counts time in centuries, not hours, whatever we do today will simply be filed away and remembered later at the most inopportune time for Westerners, grevious in application or not. Once the punky wood is lit, it doesn't go out.

This is not a problem that can be solved, however if I was to be pushed to implement a solution, I would suggest aggressive integration of Muslim immigrants to Western culture. Honest to Allah, technology, capitalism, free markets and democracy are part of the solution. The only way to have them like us is to understand that McDonald's and Air Jordans are more attractive than jihad.

And even if that works, 400 years from now some Islamic spaceship from the United Al-Islamic States of the Middle Eastern Socialist Republic of Canuckistan will fire neutron-fussion rockets at Des Moines because back in 2011 some kids threw eggs at the local mosque.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-26-2010 01:35 PM)Rebel Wrote:  BTW, there's nothing in their religious text that allows for an enlightenment. They've been this way since the cult was founded.

Exactly. The only cure for Islam is the death of Islam.

Twist that if you must Roberta.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
First of all, you don't let your enemies into the country. Muslims, maybe not all but an awful lot, declared war against this country. During WWII how many Japs did we give visas to? Until the war is over the muzzies can watch our tv shows on satellite tv but they can't come here. Next, any muzzies that overstay their visas get jailed and then deported. And then if even one muzzie does anything to incite violence or uses any kind of hate speech he's outta here in no time flat. Finally, remove the possibility that anyone who belongs to a group that has declared war on us can become a citizen or permanent resident. Once he's a citizen the system works in his favor and he has more rights than we do.

Oh....I'd also include that anyone who believes Islam is so important that they convert to it, well, then they need to experience the real deal and head off to the ME or SE Asia and do it ASAP and then be denied entry back into the country.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-26-2010 09:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  First of all, you don't let your enemies into the country. Muslims, maybe not all but an awful lot, declared war against this country. During WWII how many Japs did we give visas to? Until the war is over the muzzies can watch our tv shows on satellite tv but they can't come here. Next, any muzzies that overstay their visas get jailed and then deported. And then if even one muzzie does anything to incite violence or uses any kind of hate speech he's outta here in no time flat. Finally, remove the possibility that anyone who belongs to a group that has declared war on us can become a citizen or permanent resident. Once he's a citizen the system works in his favor and he has more rights than we do.

Oh....I'd also include that anyone who believes Islam is so important that they convert to it, well, then they need to experience the real deal and head off to the ME or SE Asia and do it ASAP and then be denied entry back into the country.
Japs and Muzzies? 03-melodramatic I guess I shouldn't be surprised by that from you though.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
I personally believe that the "religion of peace" should begin with the clergy. Ever hear of the hate spewed after Friday Prayers? So for every act of Jihad, every murder, you start shutting down Mosques. Starting with the Temple Mount. Then make Muslims pay restitution. When restitution is paid you open them back up. Remember how the KKK was shut down. Jury awards against the KKK did the trick.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-27-2010 03:01 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  I personally believe that the "religion of peace" should begin with the clergy. Ever hear of the hate spewed after Friday Prayers? So for every act of Jihad, every murder, you start shutting down Mosques. Starting with the Temple Mount. Then make Muslims pay restitution. When restitution is paid you open them back up. Remember how the KKK was shut down. Jury awards against the KKK did the trick.
Based on his posts, I am going to guess SMN1256 knows how the KKK was shut down and the jury awards. Maybe that is why he is so angry at the world?
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-27-2010 03:01 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  I personally believe that the "religion of peace" should begin with the clergy. Ever hear of the hate spewed after Friday Prayers? So for every act of Jihad, every murder, you start shutting down Mosques. Starting with the Temple Mount. Then make Muslims pay restitution. When restitution is paid you open them back up. Remember how the KKK was shut down. Jury awards against the KKK did the trick.

Too bad we can't pressure the Saudis to "reform" the Wahabbis. They are the ones that foster and encourage the radicals like AQ.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-27-2010 02:19 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-26-2010 09:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  First of all, you don't let your enemies into the country. Muslims, maybe not all but an awful lot, declared war against this country. During WWII how many Japs did we give visas to? Until the war is over the muzzies can watch our tv shows on satellite tv but they can't come here. Next, any muzzies that overstay their visas get jailed and then deported. And then if even one muzzie does anything to incite violence or uses any kind of hate speech he's outta here in no time flat. Finally, remove the possibility that anyone who belongs to a group that has declared war on us can become a citizen or permanent resident. Once he's a citizen the system works in his favor and he has more rights than we do.

Oh....I'd also include that anyone who believes Islam is so important that they convert to it, well, then they need to experience the real deal and head off to the ME or SE Asia and do it ASAP and then be denied entry back into the country.
Japs and Muzzies? 03-melodramatic I guess I shouldn't be surprised by that from you though.

We call Englanders Brits
We call Polish Poles
We call Slavic people Slavs
We call Canadians Habs
We call Australians Aussies
We call the French cowards
What better word to use as a nickname for the Japanese people?

Why is Jap wrong? Tell me, enlighten me, share your vast knowledge with the world. Oh...wait....it's that WWII thing where we feel guilty for beating the **** out of someone who attacked us and then we turn around and build them up to the point where they economically compete against us while we still provide their national defense. Rob, go buy a Toyota if you think it will make them feel better.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
Robert is an idiot lib. What do you expect? He complains when I call Muslims Muzzies, but he uses "Fundies" all the time. Clearly, he likes Muslims more than Christians........but it's the Muslims who would cut off his f'ing head if he espoused the same thing about them as he does Christians.
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(02-28-2010 09:31 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Robert is an idiot lib. What do you expect? He complains when I call Muslims Muzzies, but he uses "Fundies" all the time. Clearly, he likes Muslims more than Christians........but it's the Muslims who would cut off his f'ing head if he espoused the same thing about them as he does Christians.
I don't use the word "fundies". I don't particularly care for any religion.
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(02-28-2010 09:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-28-2010 09:31 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Robert is an idiot lib. What do you expect? He complains when I call Muslims Muzzies, but he uses "Fundies" all the time. Clearly, he likes Muslims more than Christians........but it's the Muslims who would cut off his f'ing head if he espoused the same thing about them as he does Christians.
I don't use the word "fundies". I don't particularly care for any religion.

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(02-28-2010 10:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(02-28-2010 09:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-28-2010 09:31 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Robert is an idiot lib. What do you expect? He complains when I call Muslims Muzzies, but he uses "Fundies" all the time. Clearly, he likes Muslims more than Christians........but it's the Muslims who would cut off his f'ing head if he espoused the same thing about them as he does Christians.
I don't use the word "fundies". I don't particularly care for any religion.

The Muslim world mourns your departure from their fold.
I could care less how they feel or you feel.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-27-2010 03:01 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  I personally believe that the "religion of peace" should begin with the clergy. Ever hear of the hate spewed after Friday Prayers? So for every act of Jihad, every murder, you start shutting down Mosques. Starting with the Temple Mount. Then make Muslims pay restitution. When restitution is paid you open them back up. Remember how the KKK was shut down. Jury awards against the KKK did the trick.

Well to bad we absolutely can't shut down churches or charge them for their existence and you also can't persecute a group of people if you don't know whether the group of people at some of these places have even conspired to do anything. The KKK was allowed because there is no such thing as the KKK religion. The southern KKK were all baptists.
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RE: What is it that you propose we do with Islam?
(02-28-2010 09:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-28-2010 09:31 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Robert is an idiot lib. What do you expect? He complains when I call Muslims Muzzies, but he uses "Fundies" all the time. Clearly, he likes Muslims more than Christians........but it's the Muslims who would cut off his f'ing head if he espoused the same thing about them as he does Christians.
I don't use the word "fundies". I don't particularly care for any religion.

....but you defend Islam on a daily basis. Just got through watching "Tears of the Sun" for about the 50th time. You should watch it. Knowing what I know, and spending time in shitholes that I have, that's about as close as you're going to get to the real thing. There are no atheists in Muslim countries. ....at least ones that openly admit it.
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(03-01-2010 12:40 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(02-28-2010 09:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-28-2010 09:31 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Robert is an idiot lib. What do you expect? He complains when I call Muslims Muzzies, but he uses "Fundies" all the time. Clearly, he likes Muslims more than Christians........but it's the Muslims who would cut off his f'ing head if he espoused the same thing about them as he does Christians.
I don't use the word "fundies". I don't particularly care for any religion.

....but you defend Islam on a daily basis. Just got through watching "Tears of the Sun" for about the 50th time. You should watch it. Knowing what I know, and spending time in shitholes that I have, that's about as close as you're going to get to the real thing. There are no atheists in Muslim countries. ....at least ones that openly admit it.
No. I don't defend Islam. I can kind of understand their point of view. That doesn't mean I defend their actions. I understand the Israelies point of view. Doesn't mean I defend their actions. The problem is YOU can only understand one point of view.
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