(02-24-2010 04:13 PM)Rebel Wrote:  How is homeschooling depriving you of anything?

Read the article. And the word "others" in my post. One young girl was deprived of her life because of the homeschooling discipline practices described here.

Why are you defending these murderers? At least they are well-intentioned Christian murderers?

(02-24-2010 04:57 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  i'm curious when you were ever denied those things?

Young girl = dead. Are you saying she wasn't deprived of those things?

(02-24-2010 06:35 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  By the way, Christian's aren't trying to deny you anything, but you hate them nonetheless. Can you actually explain this or do you just hate because they have different beliefs than you?

I don't hate Christians, or Muslims, or other religious groups. It's the fundamentalist versions of these groups that are the problem here. They are the ones who want to enforce their views on others - denying people control over their own bodies, preventing people from marrying others of their choosing, denying educational opportunities solely because of a person's gender - all because these views conflict with their personal skewed version of morality.

(02-24-2010 03:01 PM)Rebel Wrote:  ...and you probably think this is indicative of all home schooling? Hmm, do you have more stories? Or is this the only indictment you have?

...waiting....

Do you think those home-schooled FLDS girls in Texas would have chosen the opportunity to go to public school, or the forced marriage and incest-rape that they received instead?

(02-24-2010 07:38 PM)Yahweh Wrote:  

(02-24-2010 04:13 PM)Rebel Wrote:  How is homeschooling depriving you of anything?

Read the article. And the word "others" in my post. One young girl was deprived of her life because of the homeschooling discipline practices described here.

Why are you defending these murderers? At least they are well-intentioned Christian murderers?

I'm not defending those murderers, dumb***, I'm defending homeschooling. You're the idiot trying to indict an entire practice by one story. Stupid much?

(02-24-2010 07:45 PM)Yahweh Wrote:  

(02-24-2010 03:01 PM)Rebel Wrote:  ...and you probably think this is indicative of all home schooling? Hmm, do you have more stories? Or is this the only indictment you have?

...waiting....

Do you think those home-schooled FLDS girls in Texas would have chosen the opportunity to go to public school, or the forced marriage and incest-rape that they received instead?

Again, another isolated event. You're not making your case better.

(02-24-2010 07:45 PM)Yahweh Wrote:  

(02-24-2010 03:01 PM)Rebel Wrote:  ...and you probably think this is indicative of all home schooling? Hmm, do you have more stories? Or is this the only indictment you have?

...waiting....

Do you think those home-schooled FLDS girls in Texas would have chosen the opportunity to go to public school, or the forced marriage and incest-rape that they received instead?

How did this get to forced marriage and incest rape?

Did Jesus kill your puppy. Jeez, we have enough Christian bashing bigots on here already.

Is there a small number of Christian Conservatives who are nut jobs? Yes. Doesn't compare to the number of nut jobs on the left. That would be every last single one of 'em.

(02-24-2010 07:39 PM)Yahweh Wrote:  

(02-24-2010 04:57 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  i'm curious when you were ever denied those things?

Young girl = dead. Are you saying she wasn't deprived of those things?

read what i wrote again. This time i bolded the operative word, so you could comprehend

Now I'll tell you now but I am personally no advocate of homeschooling, I just don't think it's my style. I do, however, stand for people to educate their children by whatever means they deem necessary as long as it isn't hurtful to those children.

Isolated incidents don't tell you the whole story about the condition of that method of education, and not even a really good measure of the individual school. Columbine was a public school, but I'll tell you that doesn't happen and isn't a great risk to happen in 99.9% of schools. This is the same thing, a sad sad situation but not likely to happen like that again.

(02-24-2010 02:33 PM)Rebel Wrote:  I was talking about shootings, but if you want to bring up domestic violence, it would be better to compare that with school fights.

I figured that would be your response... and I was only joking.

I would say, however, that seeing your parents fight is worse than seeing 2 classmates fight.

(02-24-2010 10:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(02-24-2010 02:33 PM)Rebel Wrote:  I was talking about shootings, but if you want to bring up domestic violence, it would be better to compare that with school fights.

I figured that would be your response... and I was only joking.

I would say, however, that seeing your parents fight is worse than seeing 2 classmates fight.

Well, no one's generally cheering for a winner in the latter.

(02-24-2010 12:13 PM)Yahweh Wrote:  http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_14388171

Quote:Prosecutors allege the two victims were subjected to "hours" of corporal punishment by their parents on successive days last Thursday and Friday with a quarter-inch-wide length of rubber or plastic tubing, which police reportedly recovered from the parents' bedroom.

Police allege that the younger girl was being disciplined for mis-pronouncing a word during a home-school reading lesson the day before she died.

He said investigators are researching a possible connection to an Internet Web site set up by "fundamentalist Christian people" that recommends use of the same whip-like implement "as an appropriate tool for biblical chastisement ... to train a child from infancy to make them a happier child and more obedient to God because they are obedient to the will of their parents," said Ramsey.

I hope the older girl finds a new school before she tries to learn math and science, for her own safety.

I already read this story. I guess the first question is, what does this have to do with homeschooling?

Secondly, the record clearly and explicitly showed these parents' activities were in direct contrastat from those advocated by "fundamentalist Christian people," on the referenced web-site.

So the prosecutor threw that out there, even though the connection has been demonstrated to be one of opposition, not similarity. However, the PR damage is done, guilt by association. And the original poster propogates this. Hmmm...

(02-24-2010 01:11 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  The left disparages Home Schooling.

If only we could overgeneralize things with an even broader brush!

Quote:Anyone who attempts to deprive me (or others) of life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness because of a non-adherence to their particular set of religious beliefs is out of line.

(02-24-2010 08:46 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  read what i wrote again. This time i bolded the operative word, so you could comprehend

read what i wrote again. This time i bolded the operative word, so you could comprehend

(02-24-2010 07:38 PM)Yahweh Wrote:  

(02-24-2010 04:13 PM)Rebel Wrote:  How is homeschooling depriving you of anything?

Read the article. And the word "others" in my post. One young girl was deprived of her life because of the homeschooling discipline practices described here.

You don't mention any problem with homeschooling, let alone "problems."

Fail.

(02-25-2010 11:56 AM)Yahweh Wrote:  

Quote:Anyone who attempts to deprive me (or others) of life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness because of a non-adherence to their particular set of religious beliefs is out of line.

(02-24-2010 08:46 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  read what i wrote again. This time i bolded the operative word, so you could comprehend

read what i wrote again. This time i bolded the operative word, so you could comprehend

definitely don't remember seeing that there. my bad

(02-25-2010 11:51 AM)BGSUalum1987 Wrote:  

(02-24-2010 01:11 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  The left disparages Home Schooling.

If only we could overgeneralize things with an even broader brush!

Bad BGS, Bad BGS....

(02-25-2010 01:19 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  You don't mention any problem with homeschooling, let alone "problems."

Let's see:

(1) Girl, age seven, now a corpse
(2) Girl, age twelve, severely beaten

That's at least two problems that resulted from this homeschooled environment by my count. I realize that women are problematic for you with that extra rib and all and supposed to be subservient to the will of men and thus not fully human, but the educated populace does not subscribe to your distorted ideals.

(02-25-2010 05:37 PM)Yahweh Wrote:  

(02-25-2010 01:19 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  You don't mention any problem with homeschooling, let alone "problems."

Let's see:

(1) Girl, age seven, now a corpse
(2) Girl, age twelve, severely beaten

That's at least two problems that resulted from this homeschooled environment by my count. I realize that women are problematic for you with that extra rib and all and supposed to be subservient to the will of men and thus not fully human, but the educated populace does not subscribe to your distorted ideals.

I can match and exceed that with one school shooting.

You were saying?

I won't respond to the other BS you posted as it's beneath my intelligence. ...and Torch's as well.