(02-13-2010 05:41 PM)SlinginSammyGarza Wrote:  

(02-13-2010 05:11 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(02-13-2010 04:57 PM)SlinginSammyGarza Wrote:  So when places that aren't usually getting snow are , and places that are cold are warmer than they should(normaly) be, that is not global warming, that is climate change. Which is something the human race should be concerned with, if you want to continue with your Get' r' done attitude, go right ahead, because were not hurting Earth just ourselves. When our species is dead and gone from climate change or whatever catacylism might fall upon us the planet will be just fine. So Global warming or Climate change whatever you want to call it, isn't hurting the planet just us and all species in the food chain. After were gone, Earth over time will heal its self. Ready for the next generation of life.

Welcome to NCAABS Mr. Gore......

Thank you, I love redneck hospitality. Get r DONE, morons.

Allow me to fix your quote. Us "rednecks" know how to do that. BTW, could you be accepted to Rice University? Somehow I think not. You're too gullible and buying into this Gore bull****. Also, what did you think of the Gore pictures I posted? Doesn't seem like he's too concerned, does it? Well, that is, unless something comes between he and his millions.

You're a pawn, fool.

(02-13-2010 06:00 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(02-13-2010 05:41 PM)SlinginSammyGarza Wrote:  

(02-13-2010 05:11 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(02-13-2010 04:57 PM)SlinginSammyGarza Wrote:  So when places that aren't usually getting snow are , and places that are cold are warmer than they should(normaly) be, that is not global warming, that is climate change. Which is something the human race should be concerned with, if you want to continue with your Get' r' done attitude, go right ahead, because were not hurting Earth just ourselves. When our species is dead and gone from climate change or whatever catacylism might fall upon us the planet will be just fine. So Global warming or Climate change whatever you want to call it, isn't hurting the planet just us and all species in the food chain. After were gone, Earth over time will heal its self. Ready for the next generation of life.

Welcome to NCAABS Mr. Gore......

Thank you, I love redneck hospitality. Get r DONE, morons.

Allow me to fix your quote. Us "rednecks" know how to do that. BTW, could you be accepted to Rice University? Somehow I think not. You're too gullible and buying into this Gore bull****. Also, what did you think of the Gore pictures I posted? Doesn't seem like he's too concerned, does it? Well, that is, unless something comes between he and his millions.

You're a pawn, fool.

We all know that the climate changes. THe point is WE ARE SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS. This is CAUSED by GW(btw, just because one area has seen lower temperatures doesn't mean that the overall global temperature isn't going up-not every place will recieve higher temperatures. Some go up some don't but the overall temp on the planet goes up). Humans are NOT prepared for major abrupt fluctuations in climate(including stronger more numerous natural disasters such as hurricanes, stronger t-storms, more flooding, severe droughts etc). Of course, you can't comprehend the idea of not every place increasing in temp but still have a higher global temp because you have told me that you can't understand that concept in the past. Fairly simple concept. Unfortunately, for simple people it is a difficult concept to grasp.

(02-13-2010 07:51 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Humans are NOT prepared for major abrupt fluctuations in climate

I do just fine every time summer abruptly changes to winter and winter abruptly changes to summer. It's Happened to me 100 times now (50 years) with no harm to me from all the fluctuations at all. That is real climate change, and no one seems to concerned.

I'm pretty sure the abrupt 80 degree change every 6 months presents a much larger, quicker change than the 1 degree or so predicted, by people who haven't been very accurate yet, for the next 100 years.

Are the changing seasons really giving you problems?

(02-13-2010 07:51 PM)RobertN Wrote:  We all know that the climate changes. THe point is WE ARE SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS.

As has been proven by the scandals that have broken, UNSUBSTANTIATED BULLSH1T! Tell the truth, Robert, you're sick of living in an apartment and you want to see those "evil rich" lose their money so it can be doled out to you.

Global Warming shouldn't concern us because it will change eventually if it is happening at all. I'm concerned with air pollution. Try taking a run in LA compared to anywhere in NC and you'll see where my concern lies. But it isn't a first priority.

(02-13-2010 04:57 PM)SlinginSammyGarza Wrote:  So when places that aren't usually getting snow are , and places that are cold are warmer than they should(normaly) be, that is not global warming, that is climate change. Which is something the human race should be concerned with, if you want to continue with your Get' r' done attitude, go right ahead, because were not hurting Earth just ourselves. When our species is dead and gone from climate change or whatever catacylism might fall upon us the planet will be just fine. So Global warming or Climate change whatever you want to call it, isn't hurting the planet just us and all species in the food chain. After were gone, Earth over time will heal its self. Ready for the next generation of life.

Greenland was not named Greenland because of the ice. Much of what the earth does doesn't happen because of us either. It's going to "get done" one way or another.

(02-13-2010 07:51 PM)RobertN Wrote:  We all know that the climate changes. THe point is WE ARE SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS. This is CAUSED by GW(btw, just because one area has seen lower temperatures doesn't mean that the overall global temperature isn't going up-not every place will recieve higher temperatures. Some go up some don't but the overall temp on the planet goes up).

I don't disagree with this in general... However... SPECIFICALLY what do you propse we do about it? We can't ban humans. We aren't going to stop using fossil fuels tomorrow, and even if we did, other countries will continue. Reducing global consumption is an idea... how do you suggest we do that? Populations eat meat... livestock contribute to global warming. How do you suggest we address THAT?

When you're giving me these answers, kindly tell me what you expect these solutions to cost, and how much a difference you expect these efforts to make over a 10, 50 or 100 year period of time (you choose the timeframe)... and show me the data to support those claims/projections.

In other words, do what you would expect ANY "request for funds" to do.

I'm not really calling YOU out, RObert... I'm asking the community that does this for a living... to not simply say "catastrophic" and "reverse the trend"... but to do an actual cost/benefit analysis. If the answer is spend $1trillion a year in current dollars to reduce warming from 2.4 degrees over 500 years to 2.2 degrees, count me out.

If all you (they) are saying is do the best we can... be prudent... promote green Tech... then fine... done and continuing... move the eff on.

(02-16-2010 08:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Global Warming shouldn't concern us because it will change eventually if it is happening at all. I'm concerned with air pollution. Try taking a run in LA compared to anywhere in NC and you'll see where my concern lies. But it isn't a first priority.

Totally agree there. Problem is, you have whackjob libs that take everything to the extreme. I.e. if we don't support this GW bull****, well, we obviously want poisoned water, diseased air, etc. Buncha BS. There isn't one person who doesn't want to see pollution controlled. I remember back in the 70's when it seemed like NO one cared. Idiots would drive down the road and throw wrappers out of their car like it was nothing. Factories would pump toxins into lakes and streams destroying the water table. Hell, think of the Love Canal.

..but man-made GW? BS. We could pump every bit of pollution into the air possible and the Earth would still be here. We won't, but it'll still be standing. The earth has it's own way of cleaning itself. One more thing, since you brought up LA, Newark and many other areas inhabited by liberals are as well. Wonder why that is?