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RE: Your opinion on the Tea Party Animals
So, Brown isn't smart?

Or is that your standard knee-jerk reaction to any elected Republican?
02-07-2010 06:26 PM
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(02-07-2010 06:26 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, Brown isn't smart?

Or is that your standard knee-jerk reaction to any elected Republican?
I should have said: Not as smart as Obama. I imagine he is more intelligent than Bush Jr. though. So I guess that qualifies him(and me) to be President.
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So, you've got a Yale MBA?

And I've got furniture smarter than Biden.
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02-07-2010 06:59 PM
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(02-07-2010 06:59 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, you've got a Yale MBA?

And I've got furniture smarter than Biden.
No. But just because your daddy buys you a Yale degree, it doesn't mean you are smart. It just means you have money.
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So, daddy bought his degree? And you know this how?
02-07-2010 07:14 PM
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RE: Your opinion on the Tea Party Animals
(02-07-2010 05:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-07-2010 04:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(02-07-2010 04:44 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-07-2010 02:57 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think Palin was more ready than Obama was in 2008. I certainly think her credentials are stronger. There's room for honest debate on the issue, but I'd prefer hers to his.

Unfortunately, what we are seeing unfold may be, among other things, proof positive that Obama was nowhere near ready.

If 2012 comes down to Palin or Gingrich or Jindal against Obama, I'm going to have a hard time finding a reason to support any of them. I really don't see a republican front-runner that I can support. And I see no reason to believe I could ever support Obama.
03-lmfao

Btw, I hope she runs for President and wins the Republican party primary. THat means 4 more years of positive change.

03-no ....03-lmfao03-lmfao...You can't be serious Robert? Positive change?03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
You are a true comedian!!!04-bow
I guess it depends on your point of view. If you are a multi-millionaire or billionaire(or a misinformed conservative/libertarian), then yes, it is funny. It isn't funny to those who would like to see a continuation of a solid middleclass which is being descimated under the conservative/libertarian economic policies.

What is funny is that you actually see anything changing. The mere suggestion of it is preposterous. 03-lmfao03-lmfao
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RE: Your opinion on the Tea Party Animals
meh...

Sounds like she had some sound-bites she wanted to make sure to use. It's half a dozen words, not answers to any questions... and CERTAINLY not a speech or any part of one.

besides... Sarah Palin has never presented herself as the "smartest" candidate...

I prefer that Daddy "bought" Bush's degree to the taxpayer buying Obama's. At least I know what grades Daddy paid for.

Seriously... I don't think he's stupid by any means... but if he's as smart as you claim, and ESPECIALLY if you're going to CLAIM he smarter than someone else... why can't you show me any grades?
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(02-07-2010 10:31 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Seriously... I don't think he's stupid by any means... but if he's as smart as you claim, and ESPECIALLY if you're going to CLAIM he smarter than someone else... why can't you show me any grades?

Do you think those grades really matter? It seems that the question is how smart someone is or isn't, not how smart they were or weren't. I don't think using a 20 or 30 year-old transcript to answer the question is reasonable. Nixon was very smart, Carter was above average, Reagan was fairly smart, the elder Bush was very smart, Clinton was incredibly bright, and the younger Bush paled in comparison to most presidents. Nobody needs college transcripts to come to that conclusion, nor should anyone use college transcripts when trying to come to that conclusion. People change over time. Someone who was an average college student may be a great leader after several more decades of life experience, or someone who is a very bright college student may spiral into someone below average later in life.

I have no idea why Obama doesn't want to release his transcripts, but I don't think it should be required of any president or candidate.
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Do not care how smart Obama is, HE IS FOOLISH. Now that statement just went over the head of a certain poster like an F-15. He heard it, but can't grasp what it was or what he saw.

WE NEED WISDOM.
02-07-2010 11:09 PM
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(02-07-2010 11:09 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Do not care how smart Obama is, HE IS FOOLISH. Now that statement just went over the head of a certain poster like an F-15. He heard it, but can't grasp what it was or what he saw.

WE NEED WISDOM.

Wisdom is a word that suggests old age. We just need someone with common sense. The ability to make a quality advising team helps also.
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I don't think Obama is stupid either but I don't find him nearly as smart as most and defiantly no where near the league he fancies himself. And I would second the he is Foolish.
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(02-07-2010 11:19 PM)Paul M Wrote:  I don't think Obama is stupid either but I don't find him nearly as smart as most and defiantly no where near the league he fancies himself. And I would second the he is Foolish.

What league does he fancy himself to be part of?
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He's an arrogant prick who thinks he knows better than we what we need and how to run our lives. Even with everyone telling him to f off, he refuses to cease and desist.
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(02-08-2010 12:04 AM)Paul M Wrote:  He's an arrogant prick who thinks he knows better than we what we need and how to run our lives. Even with everyone telling him to f off, he refuses to cease and desist.

I see. Thanks for clarifying.
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Don't think I actually answered your question. Or only partly. He has compared himself to many great leaders that when you hear him, at best you must at least be tempted to laugh, and at worst, see him for the arrogant ass that I see.
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(02-08-2010 12:04 AM)Paul M Wrote:  He's an arrogant prick who thinks he knows better than we what we need and how to run our lives. Even with everyone telling him to f off, he refuses to cease and desist.
Actually, the people that are telling him to f off are the ones that can't see that the Republican policies that we have had for over the last 20 years don't work. We have wages dropping. We have more and more people move into poverty. More people having to work 2-3 jobs(not to mention their significant other working as well) in order to make a living. While the rich pocket more and more money with no end in sight. It is pretty easy to see that trickle down is a failure. Not saying that trickle up(or whatever you want to call the opposite) is any better. We need a middle ground.
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What we need is to restore manufacturing and other value-added processes to this country. The problem with a retail/service economy is that you simply can't pay someone as much to deliver a pizza as to run a steel mill. Ross Perot understood this in 1992, so it predates Shrub by quite a lot. Unfortunately, we haven't addressed it yet. Until that happens, we're kidding ourselves to expect economic improvement.

But I think that ship has sailed. If it hasn't, the combination of Obamacare, cap-and-trade, and card-check will send it on its way.

After that the only issues are how far we fall, and how fast.
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I don't want the Republicans running my life for me either, Robert. I want both parties to limit themselves to the very few mandates they are authorized to. Leave me and my wallet alone.
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(02-08-2010 12:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  What we need is to restore manufacturing and other value-added processes to this country. The problem with a retail/service economy is that you simply can't pay someone as much to deliver a pizza as to run a steel mill. Ross Perot understood this in 1992, so it predates Shrub by quite a lot. Unfortunately, we haven't addressed it yet. Until that happens, we're kidding ourselves to expect economic improvement.

But I think that ship has sailed. If it hasn't, the combination of Obamacare, cap-and-trade, and card-check will send it on its way.

After that the only issues are how far we fall, and how fast.
I think we need to do what most of our trading partners do. Protect their manufacturing base through tariffs(or something similar). If another country is doing something to manipulate their currency or adding a tariff(or the like), we need to do the same. I am not against free trade per se. We just need it to be fair trade. They need us as much as we need them.
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(02-08-2010 12:45 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-08-2010 12:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  What we need is to restore manufacturing and other value-added processes to this country. The problem with a retail/service economy is that you simply can't pay someone as much to deliver a pizza as to run a steel mill. Ross Perot understood this in 1992, so it predates Shrub by quite a lot. Unfortunately, we haven't addressed it yet. Until that happens, we're kidding ourselves to expect economic improvement.

But I think that ship has sailed. If it hasn't, the combination of Obamacare, cap-and-trade, and card-check will send it on its way.

After that the only issues are how far we fall, and how fast.
I think we need to do what most of our trading partners do. Protect their manufacturing base through tariffs(or something similar). If another country is doing something to manipulate their currency or adding a tariff(or the like), we need to do the same. I am not against free trade per se. We just need it to be fair trade. They need us as much as we need them.

I disagree somewhat. China has long kept their currency undervalued to subsidize their exports. The answer to that problem is to find a way to force China to allow its currency to freely float to an appropriate level. Manipulating our currency would only produce more economic distortion and disruption. I do agree that engaging in unfair trade isn't beneficial to both parties and should be avoided when we are the disadvantaged party.
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