Interesting how many Rivals 3-star recruits have signed LOI's and/or made verbal committments to Belt schools. Know this is just the opinion of some so-called experts, but Rivals is more widely used that other rating systems. Overall Belt recruiting certainly seems to be on the upswing.

School - # of Rivals 3-star recruits who have commited or signed LOI's to date:

8 - Florida International
7 - Arkansas State
7 - Troy
5 - North Texas
3 - WKU
2 - ULM
2 - Muts
1 - Florida Atlantic
0 - ULL

(01-18-2010 11:46 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote:  Interesting how many Rivals 3-star recruits have signed LOI's and/or made verbal committments to Belt schools. Know this is just the opinion of some so-called experts, but Rivals is more widely used that other rating systems. Overall Belt recruiting certainly seems to be on the upswing.

School - # of Rivals 3-star recruits who have commited or signed LOI's to date:

8 - Florida International
7 - Arkansas State
7 - Troy
5 - North Texas
3 - WKU
2 - ULM
2 - Muts
1 - Florida Atlantic
0 - ULL

I believe mod's can change star status on rivals or has a major influence on it. I remember one of the old mod's on rivals talking about how they created profiles an added stars to players. He said rivals didn't say anything unless you went overboard. So i think scout is the better site for realiable info. Rivals is good for getting reports from kids. If you ever notice on scout that the stars are always lower. I know Scout doesn't let the mod's add to commitment list nor change any info. They only let the experts make the changes. But it is good to see more kids coming to belt schools.

From what he has mentioned, the rivals mod from FIU and FAU has no access to enter a kid as a commitment, and less so as to determine the level of stars. He contacts the "experts" at times to let them know of a commitment, but has no say in determining number of stars. But still, it is a pretty subjective topic by nature. ESPN's analysts rank by number ratings, and now have instituted a star system attached to their number ratings system.

(01-18-2010 12:57 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  From what he has mentioned, the rivals mod from FIU and FAU has no access to enter a kid as a commitment, and less so as to determine the level of stars. He contacts the "experts" at times to let them know of a commitment, but has no say in determining number of stars. But still, it is a pretty subjective topic by nature. ESPN's analysts rank by number ratings, and now have instituted a star system attached to their number ratings system.

Maybe they stopped that practice, after the '08 season. So they wouldn't have people doing this.

Some recruiting notes (see Troy & FIU comments)from the Denton Record-Chronicle Blog.

In an interesting side note, Florida International continues to clean up when it comes to highly rated players. I would be surprised if FIU and Troy don's end up with the consensus top two classes in the league.

Don't sleep on the Golden Panthers. They have a former SEC All-Freshman Team quarterback coming off a redshirt year, some good players back, a new stadium that is helping in recruiting and some good young players coming in.

UNT has enough players on the board now to finish middle of the pack again when it comes to recruiting classes in the Sun Belt. That's pretty impressive when you consider UNT has won 10 games the last five years, the same number Middle Tennessee won last year.

thats pretty impressive numbers from FIU

(01-18-2010 02:16 PM)marlonfield Wrote:  

(01-18-2010 12:57 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  From what he has mentioned, the rivals mod from FIU and FAU has no access to enter a kid as a commitment, and less so as to determine the level of stars. He contacts the "experts" at times to let them know of a commitment, but has no say in determining number of stars. But still, it is a pretty subjective topic by nature. ESPN's analysts rank by number ratings, and now have instituted a star system attached to their number ratings system.

Maybe they stopped that practice, after the '08 season. So they wouldn't have people doing this.

the practice was stopped when Yahoo bought out Rivals

(01-18-2010 12:13 PM)marlonfield Wrote:  

(01-18-2010 11:46 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote:  Interesting how many Rivals 3-star recruits have signed LOI's and/or made verbal committments to Belt schools. Know this is just the opinion of some so-called experts, but Rivals is more widely used that other rating systems. Overall Belt recruiting certainly seems to be on the upswing.

School - # of Rivals 3-star recruits who have commited or signed LOI's to date:

8 - Florida International
7 - Arkansas State
7 - Troy
5 - North Texas
3 - WKU
2 - ULM
2 - Muts
1 - Florida Atlantic
0 - ULL

I believe mod's can change star status on rivals or has a major influence on it. I remember one of the old mod's on rivals talking about how they created profiles an added stars to players. He said rivals didn't say anything unless you went overboard. So i think scout is the better site for realiable info. Rivals is good for getting reports from kids. If you ever notice on scout that the stars are always lower. I know Scout doesn't let the mod's add to commitment list nor change any info. They only let the experts make the changes. But it is good to see more kids coming to belt schools.

The Cajuns have three commitments that were rated 3 stars coming out of High school by Rivals and Scout. Robert Walker- LQ , JC DE's Bernard Smith and Benay Pryer- both injured this season.

Funny thing about three star recruits, they mean very little when you don't win. I also find it funny when I read about certain 3- star recruits having visits set to SBC or MAC programs, and 1-star recruits visiting BCS programs like Arizona or Oregon. Its all subjective.

(01-18-2010 11:46 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote:  Interesting how many Rivals 3-star recruits have signed LOI's and/or made verbal committments to Belt schools. Know this is just the opinion of some so-called experts, but Rivals is more widely used that other rating systems. Overall Belt recruiting certainly seems to be on the upswing.

School - # of Rivals 3-star recruits who have commited or signed LOI's to date:

8 - Florida International
7 - Arkansas State
7 - Troy
5 - North Texas
3 - WKU
2 - ULM
2 - Muts
1 - Florida Atlantic
0 - ULL

How in the world is FIU getting so many players with big-time offers not just stars. Must be locaton, location, location.

(01-19-2010 08:26 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(01-18-2010 11:46 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote:  Interesting how many Rivals 3-star recruits have signed LOI's and/or made verbal committments to Belt schools. Know this is just the opinion of some so-called experts, but Rivals is more widely used that other rating systems. Overall Belt recruiting certainly seems to be on the upswing.

School - # of Rivals 3-star recruits who have commited or signed LOI's to date:

8 - Florida International
7 - Arkansas State
7 - Troy
5 - North Texas
3 - WKU
2 - ULM
2 - Muts
1 - Florida Atlantic
0 - ULL

How in the world is FIU getting so many players with big-time offers not just stars. Must be locaton, location, location.

Yeah, and to think they have nothing to show for it either!



GO OWLS!!!!

I've got a good feeling our star rated players are about to increase drastically in numbers.

(01-19-2010 02:15 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  I've got a good feeling our star rated players are about to increase drastically in numbers.

Are you cutting checks today?


jk

(01-19-2010 08:49 AM)NCowl Wrote:  

(01-19-2010 08:26 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(01-18-2010 11:46 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote:  Interesting how many Rivals 3-star recruits have signed LOI's and/or made verbal committments to Belt schools. Know this is just the opinion of some so-called experts, but Rivals is more widely used that other rating systems. Overall Belt recruiting certainly seems to be on the upswing.

School - # of Rivals 3-star recruits who have commited or signed LOI's to date:

8 - Florida International
7 - Arkansas State
7 - Troy
5 - North Texas
3 - WKU
2 - ULM
2 - Muts
1 - Florida Atlantic
0 - ULL

How in the world is FIU getting so many players with big-time offers not just stars. Must be locaton, location, location.

Yeah, and to think they have nothing to show for it either!



GO OWLS!!!!

There was a nice post/discussion on the FIU board about why FAU was outperforming FIU even with all the "star" recruits they were getting. The answer was fairly simple and yet very telling.

FAU recruits people who fit Howard's SYSTEM, while FIU went after pure athletes.

I thought it a valid point and probably indicates why FAU has done so well so quickly while FIU has struggled. Now eventually the pure athleticism of FIU recurits might make them catch up and pass other but it takes a while for them to get into the groove of the system.

Next year will be a VERY telling year for FIU and Mario Cristobal. If they dont perform with what will be ALL his guys he could be on the hot seat.

The big part of FAU's success has been Howard + a good coaching staff, while FIU had Don Strock who proved to be a bust and a clown. Give Cristobal another year or two to clean up Strock's mess, and I think FIU will pick up some wins.

(01-19-2010 02:43 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(01-19-2010 08:49 AM)NCowl Wrote:  

(01-19-2010 08:26 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(01-18-2010 11:46 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote:  Interesting how many Rivals 3-star recruits have signed LOI's and/or made verbal committments to Belt schools. Know this is just the opinion of some so-called experts, but Rivals is more widely used that other rating systems. Overall Belt recruiting certainly seems to be on the upswing.

School - # of Rivals 3-star recruits who have commited or signed LOI's to date:

8 - Florida International
7 - Arkansas State
7 - Troy
5 - North Texas
3 - WKU
2 - ULM
2 - Muts
1 - Florida Atlantic
0 - ULL

How in the world is FIU getting so many players with big-time offers not just stars. Must be locaton, location, location.

Yeah, and to think they have nothing to show for it either!



GO OWLS!!!!

There was a nice post/discussion on the FIU board about why FAU was outperforming FIU even with all the "star" recruits they were getting. The answer was fairly simple and yet very telling.

FAU recruits people who fit Howard's SYSTEM, while FIU went after pure athletes.

I thought it a valid point and probably indicates why FAU has done so well so quickly while FIU has struggled. Now eventually the pure athleticism of FIU recurits might make them catch up and pass other but it takes a while for them to get into the groove of the system.

Next year will be a VERY telling year for FIU and Mario Cristobal. If they dont perform with what will be ALL his guys he could be on the hot seat.

Agree with a big part of your conclusion, since that is part of the reason, since Howard is a Hall of Fame Coach . However, the discussion (in both FAU and FIU boards) also included my contention that most FAU fans, and some FIU fans, still erroneously believe FIU has always "out-recruited" FAU in terms of players with higher "stars", when the facts disprove this theory. That is simply, and categorically not true. Only since Mario Cristobal has taken over FIU, looking at the much-maligned star system, has FIU done "better" on paper than FAU.

Only the last two classes....and apparently this coming one as well...has FIU clearly "out-recruited" FAU in terms of "stars on paper". During the Strock era, and Mario's first recruiting year, it was either a push, or FAU with the "better stars recruits", for the most part. However, as it happens, the important thing is not how many 4 and 3 stars you recruit, but how many wins you get with your players. And there's no doubt to this point, FAU has "recruited" better, given the results.

Oh, and btw, Mario is getting all these players in big part...I agree..because of the location and incredible amount of talent in the South Florida tri-county area...but also because he, and his staff, are relentless recruiting year-round, and the facilities FIU is finally putting into place.

(01-19-2010 03:21 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  

(01-19-2010 02:43 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(01-19-2010 08:49 AM)NCowl Wrote:  

(01-19-2010 08:26 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(01-18-2010 11:46 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote:  Interesting how many Rivals 3-star recruits have signed LOI's and/or made verbal committments to Belt schools. Know this is just the opinion of some so-called experts, but Rivals is more widely used that other rating systems. Overall Belt recruiting certainly seems to be on the upswing.

School - # of Rivals 3-star recruits who have commited or signed LOI's to date:

8 - Florida International
7 - Arkansas State
7 - Troy
5 - North Texas
3 - WKU
2 - ULM
2 - Muts
1 - Florida Atlantic
0 - ULL

How in the world is FIU getting so many players with big-time offers not just stars. Must be locaton, location, location.

Yeah, and to think they have nothing to show for it either!



GO OWLS!!!!

There was a nice post/discussion on the FIU board about why FAU was outperforming FIU even with all the "star" recruits they were getting. The answer was fairly simple and yet very telling.

FAU recruits people who fit Howard's SYSTEM, while FIU went after pure athletes.

I thought it a valid point and probably indicates why FAU has done so well so quickly while FIU has struggled. Now eventually the pure athleticism of FIU recurits might make them catch up and pass other but it takes a while for them to get into the groove of the system.

Next year will be a VERY telling year for FIU and Mario Cristobal. If they dont perform with what will be ALL his guys he could be on the hot seat.

Agree with a big part of your conclusion, since that is part of the reason, since Howard is a Hall of Fame Coach . However, the discussion (in both FAU and FIU boards) also included my contention that most FAU fans, and some FIU fans, still erroneously believe FIU has always "out-recruited" FAU in terms of players with higher "stars", when the facts disprove this theory. That is simply, and categorically not true. Only since Mario Cristobal has taken over FIU, looking at the much-maligned star system, has FIU done "better" on paper than FAU.

Only the last two classes....and apparently this coming one as well...has FIU clearly "out-recruited" FAU in terms of "stars on paper". During the Strock era, and Mario's first recruiting year, it was either a push, or FAU with the "better stars recruits", for the most part. However, as it happens, the important thing is not how many 4 and 3 stars you recruit, but how many wins you get with your players. And there's no doubt to this point, FAU has "recruited" better, given the results.

Oh, and btw, Mario is getting all these players in big part...I agree..because of the location and incredible amount of talent in the South Florida tri-county area...but also because he, and his staff, are relentless recruiting year-round, and the facilities FIU is finally putting into place.

PLEASE!!!!!! You guys can not compete with Lockhart.

(01-20-2010 05:12 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  PLEASE!!!!!! You guys can not compete with Lockhart.

Thanks for the Hemi. :muttering:



Cant wait for 2011 so I can stop having to talk about and go to that dump.