Oh, and, STOP CODDLING THE ENEMY.

(12-27-2009 09:44 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-27-2009 08:15 PM)T-Monay820 Wrote:  I hate this ******* "religious humiliation" complaint. Who gives a **** if they tore up your koran? Mental duress my ass. I've had enough of this catering to terrorist **** where they're "entitled" to read their hate books.

Pathetic.

People like him, and others with his mindset, are why your pathetic ass is sitting on your fat ass living in freedom.

(12-27-2009 10:24 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(12-27-2009 09:19 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  You know that American soldier who has been held by the taliban for the last six months? Who does he sue?

Oh I get it ... to defeat the Taliban we need to become LIKE the Taliban. OK... gotcha.

If we were the Taliban those guys would already be dead.

The Constitution can make us stronger or weaker. Several of my family members have become Jehovah's Witnesses. In their lives, if a crook broke into their house they might yell at him but would take no physical action to stop him, they would call the police and let them do their thing. Some of us on this board might clonk that crook on the head with a bat and others might shoot him, but my family would not physically harm the guy. To them, violence goes against their principles and they feel they are stronger for holding off on the urge (if they even have an urge) to shoot the guy and living by the ideals they're faithful to. To many people on this board they would appear weak in that they won't do what they have to do to defend themselves. And the villains of the world would see my family as prey. To the taliban and people like OBL we are not only weak, we're prey and as such deserve no respect. They can read our constitution and the Geneva Conventions and easily figure out what we can and can't do to them even though they play by no rules at all. Right now 3 Seals are charged with a crime based on a terrorists' claim that he was punched after being captured for killing Americans - think this guy doesn't understand American liberalism or our obsession with political correctness?

Many, many times politicians on both the left and right have said terrorism must be stopped at all costs. Today our president said he would do "everything in his power" to prevent terrorism. No one said "we will do everything we can that's allowed by the Constitution to prevent future terrorist attacks," they said at "all costs." Word games? Rhetoric? Or do they mean it? If the lives of my family were on the line I would hope they meant it because if they are killed by a terrorist then they've lost the ultimate civil right - life.

Look no one likes the Patriot Act. Lets talk about it on a practical level, not a philosophical level. When have innocent people been prosecuted or detained or suffered because of the Patriot Act? I honestly do not know of any cases? Its true anybody under the right circumstances could be considered an enemy combatant. Don't you think if the FBI/CIA abuse their authority in an egregious manner it won't come under scrutiny?

What are we to do? Are you willing to suffer another 911? We are at war aren't we? We need to act like it.

(12-29-2009 10:25 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Look no one likes the Patriot Act. Lets talk about it on a practical level, not a philosophical level. When have innocent people been prosecuted or detained or suffered because of the Patriot Act? I honestly do not know of any cases? Its true anybody under the right circumstances could be considered an enemy combatant. Don't you think if the FBI/CIA abuse their authority in an egregious manner it won't come under scrutiny?

What are we to do? Are you willing to suffer another 911? We are at war aren't we? We need to act like it.

Oddly enough, the very same liberals who want the government to dictate every aspect of our life have a problem with the same government listening to over seas phone calls. They automatically assume the possibility of potential abuse means that abuse is actually happening without any proof. On one hand total government interference in our lives is a good thing, and on the other the possibility of government interference is a bad thing. This is why liberalism must be cured.

(12-29-2009 12:28 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Oddly enough, the very same liberals who want the government to dictate every aspect of our life have a problem with the same government listening to over seas phone calls. They automatically assume the possibility of potential abuse means that abuse is actually happening without any proof. On one hand total government interference in our lives is a good thing, and on the other the possibility of government interference is a bad thing. This is why liberalism must be cured eradicated.

This.

(12-28-2009 08:38 AM)Paul M Wrote:  That they were given Korans at all is the biggest problem here. Shame on us for letting them continue reading the hate filled, murderous book that got them there to begin with.

Yet if they were Christians in some country and weren't given Bibles you would be outraged.

(12-29-2009 01:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-28-2009 08:38 AM)Paul M Wrote:  That they were given Korans at all is the biggest problem here. Shame on us for letting them continue reading the hate filled, murderous book that got them there to begin with.

Yet if they were Christians in some country and weren't given Bibles you would be outraged.

Prisoners in other countries are not given any religious material. How can you be so dumb?

(12-28-2009 09:18 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(12-27-2009 09:44 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-27-2009 08:15 PM)T-Monay820 Wrote:  I hate this ******* "religious humiliation" complaint. Who gives a **** if they tore up your koran? Mental duress my ass. I've had enough of this catering to terrorist **** where they're "entitled" to read their hate books.

Pathetic.

People like him, and others with his mindset, are why your pathetic ass is sitting on your fat ass living in freedom.

You 2 should join the Christian group Blackwater(or whatever it is called now) since their CEO is a Christian nutcase and is happy/wants to see his "soldiers" kill innocent Muslims because they are all a threat to him and Christianity.

(12-29-2009 01:33 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-28-2009 09:18 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(12-27-2009 09:44 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-27-2009 08:15 PM)T-Monay820 Wrote:  I hate this ******* "religious humiliation" complaint. Who gives a **** if they tore up your koran? Mental duress my ass. I've had enough of this catering to terrorist **** where they're "entitled" to read their hate books.

Pathetic.

People like him, and others with his mindset, are why your pathetic ass is sitting on your fat ass living in freedom.

You 2 should join the Christian group Blackwater(or whatever it is called now) since their CEO is a Christian nutcase and is happy/wants to see his "soldiers" kill innocent Muslims because they are all a threat to him and Christianity.

Innocent Muslims? Seems like a contradiction in terms. Innocent of what? allahu akbar

(12-29-2009 01:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-28-2009 08:38 AM)Paul M Wrote:  That they were given Korans at all is the biggest problem here. Shame on us for letting them continue reading the hate filled, murderous book that got them there to begin with.

Yet if they were Christians in some country and weren't given Bibles you would be outraged.

What an idiotic and completely unsubstantiated piece of steaming horse squeeze.

If they claimed to be Christians, and were bombing planes, etc., you could burn the mofoggas at the damn stake for all I care.