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Agree.
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I think there is some truth to this. Certainly the right (moreso libertarians) need to understand community and cooperation.

However, I was puzzled by much of what was written. Magnet schools receiving "full support of the government"? What else are vouchers for? The other interpretation is that the GOP must be willing to funnel more money to schools to show people they "care".

Sorry, but buying votes is what got cities into their messes. Just having the GOP try their hand at it won't solve the problem...it will worsen it.

I like the idea of more choice in the marketplace. Most people do. Is the GOP really opposed to that?

Bottom line is that the GOP must shed the image of being simply corporatists. That doesn't resonate with the many urban residents. But, that image is fabricated and propogated by the left, and the GOP has been very tolerant of it.

This author cites a couple of examples, but they're not supported with anything but opinion. They are cherry-picked favorites, that don't really add up when you look at the data. Michael Steele's US Senate campaign was a perfect example. Most Baltimore blacks voted against him (and for a white Jew no less) b/c they had to support the party (Dem) that "supported them."

Yes, the GOP must deal with such cognitive dissonance, if they want to win urban votes. Absurd or not, it is the reality of the situation.

The GOP needs to craft a long term strategy, w/ tactics addressed to influence young people. Not having Condaleezza Rice touring and repeatedly addressing young, minority women was ABSURD. That would have planted the seeds for new voters, and better yet, new active participants in the process. The GOP must get to the young people with a relevant, honest, persistant message, b/c young people encounter public school teachers and broadcast media, both who are largely slanted left.

The GOP also must ACT in honest accord with the principles they're advocating. Pretending to be for a free market, but then defending big-business incumbants; pretending to be for small gov't, but then expanding gov't; pretending to be for opportunity, but then raising taxes...you can't let those inconsistencies persist. The truth will undermine even the best campaign strategy.
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10-28-2009 07:49 AM
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This is why I like hiphoprepublican, they have tons of ideas. They just need the people to help.
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To me the republicans have been so taken over by the religious right, who don't really understand any way of thinking but their own. I would like to see a socially moderate, fiscally conservative party. That's not exactly who Hiphop or Republicans United would be, neither is quite conservative enough for me, but they're a lot closer than Shrub was or McCain was in 2008. And there's nothing socially moderate or fiscally conservative about anyone that I've seen on the democrat side. Bill Clinton came close, but Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are not close to the way Bill Clinton actually governed.
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(10-28-2009 12:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  To me the republicans have been so taken over by the religious right, who don't really understand any way of thinking but their own. I would like to see a socially moderate, fiscally conservative party.

I suspect there are lots of details in what defines "socially moderate," but in some ways this responds to your comment.

http://www.breakpoint.org/commentaries/1...d-morality
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(10-28-2009 01:04 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(10-28-2009 12:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  To me the republicans have been so taken over by the religious right, who don't really understand any way of thinking but their own. I would like to see a socially moderate, fiscally conservative party.

I suspect there are lots of details in what defines "socially moderate," but in some ways this responds to your comment.

http://www.breakpoint.org/commentaries/1...d-morality

I think the author misses Brooks's point, or at least the point I got from Brooks (whom I like quite a lot).

I think Brooks is saying that the church used to preach chastity and thrift, but it's the chruch that drifted into preaching chastity or thrift, and chose chastity. When the other side is preaching neither chastity nor thrift, that leaves nobody preaching thrift. Brooks--and I--would be very happy if the church took its eye of chastity long enough to restore its preachings about thrift. That's the way I read it anyway, but that me be simply because that mirrors my own thinking.
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