The Obama team is playing from an extremely inept playbook. It's a damn Pop Warner team going up against the NO Saints. This is not going to turn out well for the Kenyan.

(10-22-2009 07:40 PM)Rebel Wrote:  The Obama team is playing from an extremely inept playbook. It's a damn Pop Warner team going up against the NO Saints. This is not going to turn out well for the Kenyan.

David Axelrod and Rahm screwed the pooch on this call. This is more pure Obama arrogance.

The Liberal MSM has to defend Fox on this issue. Because if they don’t scream bloody murder it establishes a precedent that could justify a future Administration kicking out CNN or MSNBC.....

At first I thought this to be driven by Axelrod and Rahm, but this is pure Obama, through and through.

So you think they've lost their minds, dropping the mask so to speak?

Or....

Is Obama about to do somethings that will piss off his base and he's trying to buy them off by attacking a boogey man?

(10-22-2009 07:55 PM)GGniner Wrote:  So you think they've lost their minds, dropping the mask so to speak?

Or....

Is Obama about to do somethings that will piss off his base and he's trying to buy them off by attacking a boogey man?

I think Obama is getting a little punchdrunk. He has been treated with kit gloves for so long (read -- his whole pu$$y life) that now he strikes back the only way he knows how, the Chicago way. So yea -- losing his mind.

(10-22-2009 07:55 PM)GGniner Wrote:  So you think they've lost their minds, dropping the mask so to speak?

Or....

Is Obama about to do somethings that will piss off his base and he's trying to buy them off by attacking a boogey man?

I honesty believe they don't know what in the hell they are doing.

None of it makes sense, none of it communicates a coherent simple message. None of it has a positive impact on the audience.

You don't use the "boogey man" when you have a clear majority in Congress. This communicates weakness.

The "boogey man" only works when you have to marginalize a specific opponent for a limited period of time before a critical event. It doesnt work after a week because it gives the other side time to fire back.

I think the WH Pollsters see Obama sinking like the Titanic so they are throwing eveything and anything out there and seeing what sticks.

This is nothing but Chicago politics. Hell, he was trashing Republicans the other day saying all they do is follow while Democrats have open minds and differing opinions (both very easily disproven). He's such a Gdamn inept moron he still thinks he's campaigning in the f'n primaries.

One more thing, Obama isn't running ****. He's the puppet for someone. Watch when he reads from the TP to try to sell us on some other bull****. It is completely unbelievable. It isn't a passion for him, it's what he's told to do. He's a dog on a leash. .....but who's holding the leash?


BTW, it isn't Pelosi and Reid. They're just dogs in the same pack with Obama being the alpha. There's a master involved. ...somewhere.

Say in the next month, he announces a Surge in Afghanistan, and drops the Public Option.

the lunatic left will be pissed, perhaps some of this is to try and keep them in line?

Obama has allies.

http://www.slate.com/id/2232563/?GT1=38001

Never mind the obvious COI (and ensuing irony) of such story.

(10-22-2009 08:17 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Obama has allies.

http://www.slate.com/id/2232563/?GT1=38001

Never mind the obvious COI (and ensuing irony) of such story.

Jacob Weisberg, hmm, a Jewish name. How ironic that the one station that IS standing up for the Israeli cause is Fox News. ....then again, I guess there can be Jewish uncle toms as well.

(10-22-2009 08:13 PM)Rebel Wrote:  This is nothing but Chicago politics. Hell, he was trashing Republicans the other day saying all they do is follow while Democrats have open minds and differing opinions (both very easily disproven). He's such a Gdamn inept moron he still thinks he's campaigning in the f'n primaries.

One more thing, Obama isn't running ****. He's the puppet for someone. Watch when he reads from the TP to try to sell us on some other bull****. It is completely unbelievable. It isn't a passion for him, it's what he's told to do. He's a dog on a leash. .....but who's holding the leash?

BTW, it isn't Pelosi and Reid. They're just dogs in the same pack with Obama being the alpha. There's a master involved. ...somewhere.

What worries me is that the Chicago Political Model only works over a long period of time where there is massive political/voter fraud and corruption.

Obama was started the process in motion by the financial support for ACORN and similar organizations. I expect in the 2012 election to have "community groups" raising hell and disrupting the proceedings-- challenging voters, making everyone go through provisonal ballots-- anything to screw up the election process in precincts that are anti-Obama.

don't forget the very important 2010 Census that they'll draw up the new Congressional Districts with.

(10-22-2009 08:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  What worries me is that the Chicago Political Model only works over a long period of time where there is massive political/voter fraud and corruption.

Obama was started the process in motion by the financial support for ACORN and similar organizations. I expect in the 2012 election to have "community groups" raising hell and disrupting the proceedings-- challenging voters, making everyone go through provisonal ballots-- anything to screw up the election process in precincts that are anti-Obama.

If they want to do that, no problem. The implications, however, will be severe. The South isn't going to stand for this **** too much longer. We have to show ID in our state. The ONLY people against proving you're eligible to vote are dumb*** idiots who vote Dem like RobertN.

These idiots do not understand where they are pushing this country. People like me fought for the independence from Britain, not people like any GDamn moonbat. They don't fight. They're *******.

(10-22-2009 08:17 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Obama has allies.

http://www.slate.com/id/2232563/?GT1=38001

Never mind the obvious COI (and ensuing irony) of such story.

You know it must really suck for Fox News as last night's ratings indicate. They wipe out CNN

Category | Cable News Ratings Ratings for Wednesday, October 21, 2009
Posted on 22 October 2009 by Robert Seidman

Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for October 21, 2009

P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,412,000 viewers
CNN – 520,000 viewers
MSNBC –395,000 viewers
CNBC – 223,000 viewers
HLN –355,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,860,000viewers
CNN— 880,000 viewers
MSNBC –977,000 viewers
CNBC – 191,000 viewers
HLN – 664,000 viewers

25-54 Total Day
FNC –384,000 viewers
CNN –163,000 viewers
MSNBC –128,000 viewers
CNBC – 79,000 viewers
HLN- 168,000 viewers

25-54 Prime Time
FNC – 826,000 viewers
CNN – 253,000 viewers
MSNBC –273,000 viewers
CNBC – 79,000 viewers
HLN – 235,000 viewers

35-64 Total Day
FNC – 675,000 viewers
CNN – 244,000 viewers
MSNBC – 190,000 viewers
CNBC – 128,000 viewers
HLN – 188,000 viewers

35-64 Prime Time
FNC –1,354,000 viewers
CNN – 303,000 viewers
MSNBC –464,000 viewers
CNBC –102,000 viewers
HLN –328,000 viewers

5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 2,555,000 viewers (626,000) (1,200,000)
Situation Room—563,000 viewers (139,000) (209,000)
Hardball w/ Chris Matthews—499,000 viewers (116,000) (199,000)
Fast Money—296,000 viewers (87,000) (179,000)
Prime News–335,000 viewers (138,000) (227,000)

6PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Special Report with Bret Baier– 2,437,000 viewers (455,000) (1,062,000)
Situation Room—537,000 viewers (135,000) (201,000)
Ed Show—543,000 viewers (143,000) (221,000)
Mad Money —250,000 viewers (76,000) (155,000)
Prime News — 381,000 viewers (170,000) (241,000)

7PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The Fox Report w/ Shep –2,072,000 viewers (460,000) (841,000)
Lou Dobbs Tonight—610,000 viewers (153,000) (276,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews—605,000 viewers (145,000) (311,000)
Kudlow Report — 219,000 viewers (80,000) (129,000)
Issues– 569,000 viewers (264,000) (320,000)

8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor– 3,722,000 viewers (984,000) (1,687,000)
Campbell Brown – 625,000 viewers (172,000) (223,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 1,222,000 viewers (315,000) (603,000)
Bio: Ben & Jerry’s – 192,000 viewers (85,000) (93,000)
Nancy Grace – 999,000 viewers (336,000) (481,000)

9 PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity –2,722,000 viewers (862,000) (1,318,000)
Latino In America —1,026,000 viewers (264,000) (309,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —1,052,000 viewers (286,000) (489,000)
American Greed 158,000 viewers (61,000) (77,000)
Joy Behar- 519,000 viewers (169,000) (262,000)

10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On The Record w/ Greta Van Susteren —2,126,000 viewers (627,000) (1,050,000)
Latino In America —988,000 viewers (322,000) (377,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 656,000 viewers (217,000) (300,000)
American Greed – 224,000 viewers (91,000) (136,000)
Nancy Grace –522,000 viewers (220,000) (268,000)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/22/cab...more-31248

(10-22-2009 08:23 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 08:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  What worries me is that the Chicago Political Model only works over a long period of time where there is massive political/voter fraud and corruption.

Obama was started the process in motion by the financial support for ACORN and similar organizations. I expect in the 2012 election to have "community groups" raising hell and disrupting the proceedings-- challenging voters, making everyone go through provisonal ballots-- anything to screw up the election process in precincts that are anti-Obama.

If they want to do that, no problem. The implications, however, will be severe. The South isn't going to stand for this **** too much longer. We have to show ID in our state. The ONLY people against proving you're eligible to vote are dumb*** idiots who vote Dem like RobertN.

These idiots do not understand where they are pushing this country. People like me fought for the independence from Britain, not people like any GDamn moonbat. They don't fight. They're *******.

I read a story the other day that said the South lost a lot of people after Katrina. It went on to say that there's a good chance the South will lose 2 congressional seats and California might pick them up. God helps us all.

(10-22-2009 08:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 08:23 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 08:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  What worries me is that the Chicago Political Model only works over a long period of time where there is massive political/voter fraud and corruption.

Obama was started the process in motion by the financial support for ACORN and similar organizations. I expect in the 2012 election to have "community groups" raising hell and disrupting the proceedings-- challenging voters, making everyone go through provisonal ballots-- anything to screw up the election process in precincts that are anti-Obama.

If they want to do that, no problem. The implications, however, will be severe. The South isn't going to stand for this **** too much longer. We have to show ID in our state. The ONLY people against proving you're eligible to vote are dumb*** idiots who vote Dem like RobertN.

These idiots do not understand where they are pushing this country. People like me fought for the independence from Britain, not people like any GDamn moonbat. They don't fight. They're *******.

I read a story the other day that said the South lost a lot of people after Katrina. It went on to say that there's a good chance the South will lose 2 congressional seats and California might pick them up. God helps us all.

Obama, plan -- put ACORN in charge of the census.

(10-22-2009 08:23 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 08:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  What worries me is that the Chicago Political Model only works over a long period of time where there is massive political/voter fraud and corruption.

Obama was started the process in motion by the financial support for ACORN and similar organizations. I expect in the 2012 election to have "community groups" raising hell and disrupting the proceedings-- challenging voters, making everyone go through provisonal ballots-- anything to screw up the election process in precincts that are anti-Obama.

If they want to do that, no problem. The implications, however, will be severe. The South isn't going to stand for this **** too much longer. We have to show ID in our state. The ONLY people against proving you're eligible to vote are dumb*** idiots who vote Dem like RobertN.

These idiots do not understand where they are pushing this country. People like me fought for the independence from Britain, not people like any GDamn moonbat. They don't fight. They're *******.

Oh these idiots KNOW what they are doing. They know full well. They want to interfere and screw up a close election.

The only way 2012 will be a landslide against Obama is if the economy all goes to Hell-- which may happen.

Part of the reason 1980 was a Reagan landslide against Carter was the candidate. With the present crop for 2012, the Republicans don't have a Reagan.

If you look at Rasmussen, you see Obama has a core support of 27-30% of the population. These lunatics will vote for him no matter what.

With the present Republican candidates for 2012, I think they will beat Obama by 3 maybe 4%, assuming there isn't a total economic collapse.

With that narrow margin, disruption tactics at the polls could work.

(10-22-2009 08:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I read a story the other day that said the South lost a lot of people after Katrina. It went on to say that there's a good chance the South will lose 2 congressional seats and California might pick them up. God helps us all.

They lost a lot of Democrats. The conservatives got the hell out of Dodge and didn't wait for the government to take care of them.

BTW, the racism card will not work in 2012. There won't be any, "Oh, you didn't vote for Obama, you're a RACIST!". "Oh really? I voted for him in 2008, you dolt!".