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(10-22-2009 09:14 PM)Rebel Wrote:  BTW, the racism card will not work in 2012. There won't be any, "Oh, you didn't vote for Obama, you're a RACIST!". "Oh really? I voted for him in 2008, you dolt!".

It will be interesting to see what tactics and crap they use in the Virginia and New Jersey Governors elections in less than 2 weeks. This is a dry run for 2010.
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(10-22-2009 08:53 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(10-22-2009 08:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I read a story the other day that said the South lost a lot of people after Katrina. It went on to say that there's a good chance the South will lose 2 congressional seats and California might pick them up. God helps us all.

They lost a lot of Democrats. The conservatives got the hell out of Dodge and didn't wait for the government to take care of them.

I hear ya, but we're talking about 2 California democrats, we're talking the real crazies.
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(10-22-2009 08:15 PM)GGniner Wrote:  Say in the next month, he announces a Surge in Afghanistan, and drops the Public Option.

the lunatic left will be pissed, perhaps some of this is to try and keep them in line?
Well, one of two is going to happen. There will be a surge but he will NOT drop the Public Option. I do think that Obama should avoid Faux as much as possible. He won't change Faux viewers minds(assuming they have minds, which is doubtful) so there really is no point to go on Faux.
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(10-22-2009 08:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(10-22-2009 08:23 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(10-22-2009 08:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  What worries me is that the Chicago Political Model only works over a long period of time where there is massive political/voter fraud and corruption.

Obama was started the process in motion by the financial support for ACORN and similar organizations. I expect in the 2012 election to have "community groups" raising hell and disrupting the proceedings-- challenging voters, making everyone go through provisonal ballots-- anything to screw up the election process in precincts that are anti-Obama.

If they want to do that, no problem. The implications, however, will be severe. The South isn't going to stand for this **** too much longer. We have to show ID in our state. The ONLY people against proving you're eligible to vote are dumb*** idiots who vote Dem like RobertN.

These idiots do not understand where they are pushing this country. People like me fought for the independence from Britain, not people like any GDamn moonbat. They don't fight. They're *******.

I read a story the other day that said the South lost a lot of people after Katrina. It went on to say that there's a good chance the South will lose 2 congressional seats and California might pick them up. God helps us all.

I'd be surprised. CA is losing people like crazy. AZ is picking up many of them.

If the "south" lost many to Katrina, I'd look at TX. But I suspect in the end there all the moving will be mainly within states, and you won't see much difference among "southern" states.

I suspect that the mountain states (UT, CO, AZ, NM, ID) will be the biggest increases.
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(10-23-2009 08:16 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(10-22-2009 08:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(10-22-2009 08:23 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(10-22-2009 08:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  What worries me is that the Chicago Political Model only works over a long period of time where there is massive political/voter fraud and corruption.

Obama was started the process in motion by the financial support for ACORN and similar organizations. I expect in the 2012 election to have "community groups" raising hell and disrupting the proceedings-- challenging voters, making everyone go through provisonal ballots-- anything to screw up the election process in precincts that are anti-Obama.

If they want to do that, no problem. The implications, however, will be severe. The South isn't going to stand for this **** too much longer. We have to show ID in our state. The ONLY people against proving you're eligible to vote are dumb*** idiots who vote Dem like RobertN.

These idiots do not understand where they are pushing this country. People like me fought for the independence from Britain, not people like any GDamn moonbat. They don't fight. They're *******.

I read a story the other day that said the South lost a lot of people after Katrina. It went on to say that there's a good chance the South will lose 2 congressional seats and California might pick them up. God helps us all.

I'd be surprised. CA is losing people like crazy. AZ is picking up many of them.

If the "south" lost many to Katrina, I'd look at TX. But I suspect in the end there all the moving will be mainly within states, and you won't see much difference among "southern" states.

I suspect that the mountain states (UT, CO, AZ, NM, ID) will be the biggest increases.

The Crime in southwest Houston went through the roof after the Katrina refugees moved in.
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(10-22-2009 07:55 PM)GGniner Wrote:  So you think they've lost their minds, dropping the mask so to speak?

Or....

Is Obama about to do somethings that will piss off his base and he's trying to buy them off by attacking a boogey man?

..Exactly! His base does not respond to logic, but emotion. So he has to provide them with an enemy..... Rush, Fox,Vast Right wing conspiracy ......whomever. But they need an enemy and please it can't be Taliban,Russians, Iranians, Terrorists those groups do not count.
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(10-23-2009 02:21 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Well, one of two is going to happen. There will be a surge but he will NOT drop the Public Option. I do think that Obama should avoid Faux as much as possible. He won't change Faux viewers minds(assuming they have minds, which is doubtful) so there really is no point to go on Faux.

There is a substantial part of his core - left-leaning moderates among them - with which these Chavez-esque tactics will not sit well (believe it or not, some people that sympathize with your views actually have principles). Speaking of Chavez, just what was in that book that they shared?
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(10-23-2009 08:16 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  CA is losing people like crazy. AZ is picking up many of them..

CA is only losing legal residents (and businesses), the number of illegals is much, much greater than the last census and they get counted.
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(10-23-2009 02:21 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(10-22-2009 08:15 PM)GGniner Wrote:  Say in the next month, he announces a Surge in Afghanistan, and drops the Public Option.

the lunatic left will be pissed, perhaps some of this is to try and keep them in line?
Well, one of two is going to happen. There will be a surge but he will NOT drop the Public Option. I do think that Obama should avoid Faux as much as possible. He won't change Faux viewers minds(assuming they have minds, which is doubtful) so there really is no point to go on Faux.

SOME viewers watch Fox for the female reporters.

I'm actually okay with him not goign on Fox... but anything open to the press is open to Fox. I think its a mistake to do so however because it gives LOTS of independents pause when a candidate avoids the press... even if they don't generally like that press

Obama hasn't made many personal mistakes... but this is one
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(10-23-2009 10:12 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(10-23-2009 02:21 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(10-22-2009 08:15 PM)GGniner Wrote:  Say in the next month, he announces a Surge in Afghanistan, and drops the Public Option.

the lunatic left will be pissed, perhaps some of this is to try and keep them in line?
Well, one of two is going to happen. There will be a surge but he will NOT drop the Public Option. I do think that Obama should avoid Faux as much as possible. He won't change Faux viewers minds(assuming they have minds, which is doubtful) so there really is no point to go on Faux.

SOME viewers watch Fox for the female reporters.

I'm actually okay with him not goign on Fox... but anything open to the press is open to Fox. I think its a mistake to do so however because it gives LOTS of independents pause when a candidate avoids the press... even if they don't generally like that press

Obama hasn't made many personal mistakes... but this is one

Obama froze out Fox back during the campaign when they incorrectly reported he attended a Madrassa. That was for only a few days. This Freeze Out has to do with Glenn Beck and his campaign against anything and everything Obama. And Fox isn't pulling Beck back. Beck is part of the "opinion" side of Fox News. While Fox News can issue a clarification or retraction for sloppy reporting, they won't muzzle someone for merely giving his opinion, especially when that opinion brings in an audence that is almost 3X the size of CNN at the same time period.

I watch Glenn Beck's show and its intense. Wierd but intense. You know it isn't scripted. He gets up there on his blackboard like he is a teacher and he is drawing things linking different people, organizations, and almost makes a convincing argument that this is truly a conspiracy to destroy America rather than some idiot liberal politician way in over his head who doesn't know what in the hell he is doing.


These are chilly days on Capitol Hill ... and on the campaign trail for Fox News journalists -- at least when they're anywhere near Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

Sources tell The Sleuth that the Obama camp has "frozen out" Fox News reporters and producers in the wake of the network's major screw-up in running with the erroneous Obama-the-jihadist story reported by Insight magazine.

"I'm still in the freezer," one Fox journalist said, noting that the people at Fox "suffering the most did nothing wrong." (It was "Fox and Friends" host Steve Doocy who aired the Insight magazine piece, which reported that operatives connected to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) found out that Obama, as a child, was educated at a Muslim madrassah in Indonesia.)

Another Fox journalist called the network's airing of the story "unfortunate" for the network's journalists who have to cover Obama and who are being adversely affected despite not being involved in the incident.

Since the madrassah incident, Obama has given interviews to ABC, CNN, CBS and NBC -- pretty much every other network except Fox. Sources close to Obama acknowledged that they're not thrilled to play ball with Fox journalists, but they stopped short of saying they are freezing the network out.

One source familiar with the dynamic between Fox and Obama, who asked not to be named, said Obama and his staff are in for a rude awakening if they think they can write off Fox News. If a candidate is serious about running for president, he or she is going to need a network like Fox to reach out to all those voters in the red and purple states, the source said.

The same source pointed out that Fox News political correspondent Carl Cameron interviewed Obama on Monday during the senator's trip to attend a field hearing on Hurricane Katrina.

But, as others pointed out, Cameron's interview wasn't prearranged; Cameron walked alongside Obama, who didn't even stop while answering the questions.

No one is suggesting the icy conditions are permanent. In fact, a thawing of sorts may already have begun thanks to two telephone conversations Fox News Channel CEO Roger Ailes had with Obama.

Aides to Obama said they weren't sure what exactly was said during the conversations. A Fox News spokesperson, who, though an official voice for the company asked not to be quoted by name, could neither confirm nor deny that conversations took place between Ailes and Obama. But of the "alleged freezing out" of Fox journalists by Obama's office, she said, "If true, perhaps Mr. [Robert] Gibbs should reconsider that ill-advised strategy given his candidate is trailing by 20 points in the polls."

Asked whether Ailes apologized to Obama, an Obama campaign aide said the senator "has not received any written apology."

In other words, aides weren't breaking their backs to go ask the senator whether Ailes had, indeed, apologized.

So maybe there was no written apology, but at least John Moody, vice president for news at Fox, issued this missive to staff in his daily editorial note on Jan. 23: "For the record: seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC. The urgent queue is our way of communicating information that is air-worthy. Please adhere to this."

By Mary Ann Akers | January 30, 2007; 4:14 PM ET

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/20...obama.html
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This is a Super Dangerous Game 'The Father' is playing and it came back to bite him in the ass really hard.

Made him look as Stupid as He Really and Truly Is.

This guy is taking himself down like a crumbling mountain with this sort of Juvenile Foolery and I love it !!!!!!!

Dead Bolts and Steel have Replaced that "Open Door Policy" and "Triple Pane Bullet Proof Glass painted totally Black has Replaced Transparency".

This is a very inexperienced politician that has been thrown into the White House and was worshiped as the Christ for no reason other than he was not GW Bush.

The world really is going to get a wild awakening before this is all over and done with.

It is what it is and that can not be argued.

OH YEAH !!!! American Troops are still dying for lack of back up in Afghanistan as The Father takes his time making a Decision - - I guess this is as important of a Decision as Choosing a Dog was for his Kids. What a Sorry Pathetic Individual this TOTUS is.

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