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Arizona May Opt Out of Obamacare
Arizona May Opt Out of Obamacare

Monday, October 19, 2009 11:35 AM

By: Jim Meyers

Arizona Voters will cast ballots next year on a bill that would give state residents the right to opt out of any healthcare system imposed on them.

In June, the Arizona legislature voted to place the Arizona Health Freedom Act on the ballot, six months after a similar version of the initiative was defeated by fewer than 9,000 votes.

If the Act is passed, a new constitutional amendment will enable Arizonans to spend their own money on any legal healthcare service they choose and to reject any other system.

Whether this would give residents the right to exit from federal healthcare programs, such as those being proposed by the Obama administration and congressional Democrats, is a question to be settled by the courts, according to Reason Magazine. Some efforts by states to nullify federal laws have been unsuccessful in the past.

"Still, the recent history of the Real ID Act, a homeland security measure that was scuttled by state resistance, suggests that if other states follow Arizona's lead, their coordinated action could prove fatal to national healthcare mandates," Reason reports.

According to the American Legislative Exchange Council, at least five other states are considering bills similar to the Arizona measure.

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10-19-2009 02:20 PM
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I feel their pain but somehow I think this will be a non-starter. I don't think the Democrats will let any "paying customers" opt out. And by "paying customers" I means the people who will be paying for others benefits.
10-19-2009 03:39 PM
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(10-19-2009 03:39 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  I feel their pain but somehow I think this will be a non-starter. I don't think the Democrats will let any "paying customers" opt out. And by "paying customers" I means the people who will be paying for others benefits.

I don't know about that. I've been reading that many think forced health care is unconstitutional. At the ery least, Ocare won't happen until is gets past the SCOTUS
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(10-19-2009 08:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(10-19-2009 03:39 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  I feel their pain but somehow I think this will be a non-starter. I don't think the Democrats will let any "paying customers" opt out. And by "paying customers" I means the people who will be paying for others benefits.

I don't know about that. I've been reading that many think forced health care is unconstitutional. At the ery least, Ocare won't happen until is gets past the SCOTUS

I don't know, the SCOTUS doesn't usually get involved with a law until there is a victim of that law. After there is a victim it has to go through many courts before ending there. We are talking 3 or 4 years.
10-20-2009 12:55 AM
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(10-19-2009 02:20 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Arizona May Opt Out of Obamacare

Monday, October 19, 2009 11:35 AM

By: Jim Meyers

Arizona Voters will cast ballots next year on a bill that would give state residents the right to opt out of any healthcare system imposed on them.

In June, the Arizona legislature voted to place the Arizona Health Freedom Act on the ballot, six months after a similar version of the initiative was defeated by fewer than 9,000 votes.

If the Act is passed, a new constitutional amendment will enable Arizonans to spend their own money on any legal healthcare service they choose and to reject any other system.

Whether this would give residents the right to exit from federal healthcare programs, such as those being proposed by the Obama administration and congressional Democrats, is a question to be settled by the courts, according to Reason Magazine. Some efforts by states to nullify federal laws have been unsuccessful in the past.

"Still, the recent history of the Real ID Act, a homeland security measure that was scuttled by state resistance, suggests that if other states follow Arizona's lead, their coordinated action could prove fatal to national healthcare mandates," Reason reports.

According to the American Legislative Exchange Council, at least five other states are considering bills similar to the Arizona measure.

2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
Sounds like who ever came up with this assinine idea(obviously a far right nut) thinks everyone is going to be put on a government plan. 03-melodramatic Just more stupidity from the right.

Btw, this is obviously a rightwing "news" source because it uses the term "Obamacare". I still have no idea what Obama care is. He has given what he would like to see but he has not involved himself in the writing of the plan.
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(10-19-2009 08:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(10-19-2009 03:39 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  I feel their pain but somehow I think this will be a non-starter. I don't think the Democrats will let any "paying customers" opt out. And by "paying customers" I means the people who will be paying for others benefits.

I don't know about that. I've been reading that many think forced health care is unconstitutional. At the ery least, Ocare won't happen until is gets past the SCOTUS

The Supreme Court was supposed to take care of that McCain-Feingold campaign finance law abomination. Look how well that turned out.
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